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Were Sally and Mark from Washington State and picked up our Legacy II on 24 July Hull #364. Long trip back getting familiar with all the systems and operation of the Ollie. We ordered out trailer last October and selected the delivery date to coincide with Sally retiring and completing a house sale in Seattle before heading out East. We took several weeks to get home and like the trailer more each day. Since returning to the nest several modifications have been made. Thanks to all the Forum members that post their mods and advice. In the 9 months awaiting delivery we learned so much and had to chance to order the bits and pieces for the mods and that has made the experience even better. I've posted some pictures of a few things and I have done. Chime in if you recognize your intellectual property ! Thanks for all the great conversations on the forum and Sally and I hope to see on the road !

Reed, Happy to see you back posting again! :) We had a problem with the cable handle shaft when the valve was opened, the handle shaft would come out of the bulkhead threaded fitting under the bed. Shortened wire 3/8" where it connected to the 3" valve. Works properly now. I may be off topic, but wanted to post how we resolved 3" valve bypass. Posted this in another thread, too. We purchased Ollie used and the black tank 3" valve was bypassing when we purchased Ollie. Tried Thetford drain valve lubricant poured in black water tank and adjusting/lubricating cable, both without success. Replaced blade valve and seals earlier this week following Valterra video instructions starting around 3:10. New Valterra 3" black tank valve body and seals: Valve located under dinette seat: 3" Black tank valve on RH side: Loosen 3" black tank hose to allow removal of the 3" blade valve: Removing cable mounting bracket: 3" Valve removed: Build up on seal surfaces contacting valve blade causing bypass: Silicone lubricant used on seals and blade rod. https://www.danco.com/product/0-5-oz-silicone-faucet-grease/ New valve/seals installed and working great: https://www.valterra.com/product/waste-valve-body-3-with-coupler-seals-hardware/?pcat_id=1445

A nice and through job. Probably took a lot longer to document than to actually do. We have replaced those valves and seals before (in SOB. some other brand) and it is a relative simple job. The silicone lube is really an added benefit. Always amazed how much better and easier the replaced seals work. It is a simple job that anyone should be able to do, or at least know how simple it really is if you have a repair shop do it for you. The above example is well done. A side note: be sure the lines and tanks are well flushed and drained...

As Willie says, " On the road again …" Bill

Sorry, I've been gone for a bit. Both of the valves inside the storage compartments separate the tanks completely. Your black tank valve is not seating properly. This can be caused by a bad seal, but most likely the valve itself is not closing completely because of toilet paper or something has gotten stuck in the seals groove. So you have 2 choices... First, empty the black tank completely, then close the valve inside the storage compartment. Then open the front dinette storage door under the seat and see if the metal valve stem will push down any farther with your thumb. If it does, then you have found the problem and this can either be fixed with some research, or you can simply push the metal pin back into place each time to complete the valve seal and close it completely. After a year, ours won't close all of the way and I haven't looked for the problem yet under the bed, so we dump normally by pulling the handle in the storage compartment to open and close it. Then we push the pin down after and it seals just fine. There is an Allen screw, I think 3/32" on the pin, you can see if it can be adjusted like I did, but that didn't fix ours. I believe our cable has a problem under the bed, but closing it by hand isn't an issue for us right now and it doesn't leak at all. If your sewer hose is full, is supposed to be the indicator of a problem because that line is supposed to be empty after the valves at all times unless dumping waste. Reed

Welcome back! We got a water softener as well and use it all the time. Mike

So, with some nervousness, I purchased a LTZ 2500HD Duramax 2018 for $58,035 this afternoon. I was very pleasantly surprised on the 50 mile drive home getting 23.5 mpg. Still undecided about extended warranty. I have always been advised that it is a waste of money. I have until tomorrow morning to decide. I have never thought about this type of warranted. The engine and transmission comes with a 100,000 mile as it is. Price of warranty is $2450. Also, a positive is the truck fits in the garage. I was worried a bit about the garage door opener being a tad low.

Fishing not too good eh? What are your expectations 100 per day?!!! Nice pictures, bill.

Welcome back! I was thinking about you guys a few days ago, good hearing everything's well. steve

It must be me, but after one looks at payload limits, max tow limits, and the fact that all 1/2 tons - with any motor selection, towing 7500 lbs.+ - , on western US grades, all are running at or near the top levels of their capibilities. Sure there are some great selections out there, but after running the numbers, the 1/2 tons were too near the limits for comfort. Just the payload numbers alone was a issue for me. But then, I tend to go for long trips, take lots of toys, and misc. stuff to enjoy the trip. Minimalism is fine when I'm hiking, but not when I can glamp. I have decided, with what time we have left, I'm not settling for it will do. But then I'm prolly in the minority here.

Welcome back Reed & Karen. Are you STILL working or has the camp host deal ended for the time being? Or, are the two of you off to something else? Bill

This was the first "real" stop on the two month fly fishing trip to Idaho. Palisades reservoir is relatively long and dams the Snake river near Alpine, WY. Indeed, the lower (southern) tip of the reservoir is actually in Wyoming. McCoy Creek campground (NFS) is located about 7 miles northwest on a dirt road, right on the reservoir but it has a ton of mosquitos. Even though the campsites are provided with bear boxes, I saw no evidence of bears, but, did see eagles, a fox, jack rabbits and a couple of coyotes. McCoy creek is nearby - on the first day of fishing I landed 65 trout! southern end of Palisades reservoir only one of the 65 the northern end of the reservoir. A NFS camp ground is here with sites right on the Snake River. Each morning there is a "hatch" of rafts that launch at the base of the dam primarily taking fisherman downstream - yes, the river flows north from here.

You guys are killing me. I am all excited to pickup my first travel trailer (EII) in April2019 and now you guys are dreaming of a larger size? But, for only the two of us soon-to-be retired couple, an important consideration (in my mind) is ease of towing, setup, handling, and off-grid enjoyment. A larger (wider) travel trailer, especially 5th wheel, might be more than I want to handle. I did look seriously at Airstreams and thought much about the extra room, but, complaints about quality and the slightly larger towing burden were factors in deciding to purchase an Oliver. I can see where a "family market" would be served by a larger design. Seems the Oliver Elite II is just right for what I need at this stage of life.

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Registration 2019 Rally For those attending the 2019 Oliver Travel Trailer Rally in Lake Guntersville State Park, we have streamlined the registration process so there is only ONE call to make for registration. To register for the rally and receive the discounts we have secured, you need to call the Lodge. Without following the process below, you may not be able to secure the discount, or have difficulty having your registration fees adjusted We have had a few attendees register with the campground. The campground personnel has no way of knowing you are a part of the Oliver Owners Rally. The Lodge Personnel are currently tracking Oliver Travel Trailer Owners information to see that you receive the discounts. Below is the instructions as it appears on the Oliver Events page. <i>“Register Now Registration is now open to owners and to the public, your deposit can be taken care of by calling Lake Guntersville State Park at any of the numbers below. Single options and those interested in lodge or cabin accommodations, can use the same numbers below.</i> <i>Just call and say... "I want to register for the Oliver Owner's 2019 Rally."</i> <i>(256) 505-6634 (256) 505-6602 (256) 505-6601</i> <i>If you are directed to the state park’s voicemail, please leave them a message as they are committed to returning your call within 24 hours</i> Thank You Coy Gayle 2017, 2018, 2019 Chairman, Oliver Travel Trailer Owner’s Rally

Issue 1: Fan inoperative Issue 2: Fruit Flies or Gnats in toilet Models Impacted: All models delivered before 8/8/2018 Information: Nature's Head recommends using a 2-5 amp fuse for the composting toilet fan. Many models may have been produced with a 1 amp fuse in the converter for the fan and may result in it blowing. Fruit flies and/or Gnats may become a problem in the composting toilet gaining access via the top roof plumbing vent. Resolution 1: Replace the 1 amp fuse with a 5 amp fuse. You can use a 2, 3, or 4 amp fuse as well just as long as it is within Nature's Head recommended size of 2-5amps. Resolution 2: *Place a mesh screen, like the material used in the window screens, over the top plumbing vent pipe. You can also use products such as Diatomaceous Earth or Gnatrol as well. You would need to refer to the Nature's Head Compost Toilet manual for the recommended process for adding these products to your toilet. Please see attached manual. *By placing a mesh screen over the vent pipe you will need to periodically clean this to keep it from becoming clogged and causing a plumbing issue. Natures-Head-Composting-Toilet-Manual.pdf

I signed up about week ago for 2019 and it's already filling up. Last year I was hesitant to go because it was so far. We live in Northern Nevada. But we decided to go after talking to Scott Oliver and I am really glad we did! The thing about trips is you can never judge them before you go and they always turn out to be so much better than imagined. So we took off with the absolute minimum of planning. We didn't even take a map and only had the destination date in mind. We wandered around and stopped when and where we wanted too. Sometimes 500 miles more east and sometimes a 100 mile detour to see something. We saw the vast emptiness of Nevada, Valley of the Gods, The Rio Grande and The Johnson Space Center. We toured the Oliver factory, visited Muscle Shoals Alabama and the Fame Music Studio, where so much music came from, toured the Helen Keller Museum, toured a Frank Lloyd Wright house, camped next to the Tennessee River at McFarland Park and had a marvelous dinner on a floating restaurant on a perfect evening. Crossed Mobile Bay on the ferry, and played in the Gulf behind the Flori-Bama Bar in Pensacola. we stopped at a "picnic area" in Texas for the night and the thunder and lightening was so powerful we stayed in the truck until it passed, nobody around for miles, and watched in wonder. Afterward everything was fresh, a fantastic rainbow and and evening with an endless view. We made zero reservations along the way and found so may beautiful places to stop for the night. Oh, and we had a great time at Guntersville. Met some great people and made some long term friends. Oliver went all out to make a very nice, fun and casual event. Coming home we played it by ear again and were able to wander along at a speed we chose. Cruised through Quartzsite after the rush and stayed in a BLM campsite, by ourselves, for free. Stopped in Death Valley and soaked in the hot springs for a couple of days as our last major stop before the final leg home. About 60 miles in on a gravel road and 60 miles back out on another gravel road. The last 6 miles is across the desert with almost no road at all. Finally, the Oasis arrives. Wild burros casually stroll by, looking for a cookie. Warm clear water fills beautiful soaking pools. Besides our nights at the rally, we only paid for four nights to camp during the month long trip. Two were $7. and two were $10. Each with full hookups. We entered federal parks for free with my Senior Card. If you want some good sippin' whiskey, be sure to get some Kirkland Premium Small Batch Bourbon at Costco before you go. It's hard to get and twice the price in Alabama. The final couple hundred miles up 395 wander through the eastern Sierra and past Mono Lake. Then up to 8,000 ft. A refreshing thundershower rinsed the truck and Ollie. We left pounds of dirt on the highway and got home with a clean rig. Two months later I eagerly signed up for the next one. We'll probably cruise through Yellowstone this time and see some different parts of the South that I'm so unfamiliar with. Alabama is full of beautiful parks. The food is delicious and everyone was very friendly. Heck, we might even take a map this time!

We are glad that we decided upon the Nature’s Head Composting toilet when ordering our Ollie. While our composting seems to have been going well (there ARE things to learn from experience and from paying attention to instructions on doing it well), I thought that it wouldn’t hurt to help with the process. I ordered the Sun-Mar product, which is advertised as an additive to speed up the composting process. I didn’t notice much of any improvement after using Sun-Mar for a month or so. However, our local RV repair shop recommended the TankTechsRx product for our grey water tank, and it worked MUCH better than the product we had been using to control odor coming from the sink and shower drains: Camco TST Lemon Scent RV Grey Water Odor Control. So, I decided to mix some of the TankTechsRX with water in a spray bottle and spray some periodically into the composting toilet. (One of the important things to learn about composting toilets is to keep the mixture at a certain moisture level—not too wet, not too dry. Adding coffee grounds, which helps with odor control, as well, is something we do frequently here in the dry Southwest.) TankTechsRX DID seem to speed along the composting process and help illuminate any occasional odor we experienced. I decided, however, to see if--by using a more objective measurement—this product actually did do what it seemed to be doing better than Sun-Mar (both TankTechsRX and Sun-Mar are advertised as containing a blend of microbes) and better than nothing by performing this experiment: 1. I placed a small amount (about 2 tablespoons) of my dog’s poop, gathered from the backyard, into three 8 oz bottles: a) one with water and about a teaspoon of Sun-Mar; b) one with water and about a teaspoon of TankTechsRX; c) one with nothing but water. I capped and shook the bottles briefly and set them outside. 2. After about 24 hours, I opened the bottles. I made the big mistake of getting my nose too close to the opened bottle containing nothing but poop and water. (My wife could hear me gagging outside as she sat inside the house.) The bottle with water, poop, and Sun-Mar was a bit better but still had quite a disagreeable odor. However, the bottle of water with TankTechsRX just smelled like TankTechsRX--which does not impart an unpleasant odor at all. Also, the “solid matter” in the TankTechsRX appeared to be more dissolved than that in the bottle containing Sun-Mar. I can now, with confidence, recommend TankTechsRX as an extremely useful addition to black and gray water tanks, but also as an addition to composting toilets. What we do is to make a solution of about 5 parts water to 1 part TankTechsRX in a small spray bottle that is kept in the bathroom cabinet and spray a bit of the mixture into the solid-waste part of the toilet each time we use it, and of course, give the spider handle a few good turns as usual. You should just follow label directions when using TankTechsRx in black and grey water tanks. I hope that my gross experiment might be useful for folks who use—or are thinking of using—a composting toilet, and for all folks with grey and black water tanks.

I just ordered the ZARCOR with tinted glass, white shades and a white handle. It will ship tomorrow morning. The white handle is not on their website or on Amazon, you have to call and ask for it. The frames are not replaced, just re-use what you have. I’ll post my installation experience! Mike

Sherry, No, I got an AP Products slim Shade from Amazon. This is a slightly smoked clear glass with pull up (or down) accordion style shade. It makes a big difference being able to see out the window. Then you can close the shade for privacy at night. With the shade open during the day, it's not really possible to look in from the outside because of the smoked color. It comes with the entire frame and screws. Takes about 10 minutes to install with a helper. Very nice upgrade. I installed ours so the shade pulls up. This gives better visibility from inside when partially open. https://www.amazon.com/AP-Products-015-201512-Upgrading-Window/dp/B01MRRNQNP/ref=sr_1_25?srs=12574135011&ie=UTF8&qid=1533749049&sr=8-25

Please visit Progressive Industries website for the most up-to-date warranty information. The below information has been provided for informational convenience but may not be updated as quickly as the Manufacturer’s website. You can visit the website at: http://www.progressiveindustries.net/warranty Troubleshooting Guide Warranty Claim Form Limited Lifetime Warranty Our Lifetime Warranty covers only Progressive Industries’ workmanship, internal electronics and parts & materials contained within the unit housing. Any and all damage to the outside of the unit is not covered. External damage is typically associated with a poor connection between your RV or our EMS/SSP units and a power cord. The Lifetime Warranty does not cover labor or shipping charges. Our Lifetime Warranty is exclusive to Progressive Industries and is granted in lieu of all other express or implied warranties, obligations or liabilities. PROGRESSIVE INDUSTRIES EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. This is a non-transferable Lifetime Warranty. It applies only to the original owner and covers only those products purchased from an authorized dealer, retailer, or seller. This warranty covers manufacturer defects in materials and workmanship. A proof of purchase is required for all warranty claims. The follow are excluded and not covered by the Lifetime Warranty and/or void the Lifetime Warranty: ​Improper installation of a hard wired unit. We strongly recommend that a competent electrical professional perform the installation of hard wired units. Products installed or used in an application other than an RV Products operated outside systems compatible and compliant with RV surge protectors Products used in a manner inconsistent with the operating instructions Use of replacement parts or accessories that are non-compliant with Progressive Industries specifications Damage to the surge protection unit, such as burnt, charred or melted components resulting from products connected to poorly maintained power sources, power cords or adapters Improper use including, but not limited to failure to disconnect upon departure from power source Failure to ensure electrical plugs and receptacles are clean and all connections maintain a snug fit when plugged in Failure to provide continuous maintenance in accordance with the maintenance instructions provided by Progressive Industries Any unauthorized modifications or repairs Maintenance of hard wired units performed by anyone other than a qualified RV dealer All acts of God and/or natural disasters including, but not limited to lightning damage, hurricanes, floods and earthquakes ​ How to apply for warranty service on hard wired units: ​Review troubleshooting guidelines located at: www.progressiveindustries.net Complete warranty claim located at: www.progressiveindustries.net. The warranty does not cover labor costs associated with repairs or replacement units. ​ How to apply for warranty service on portable units: ​Review troubleshooting guidelines located at: www.progressiveindustries.net Complete warranty claim located at: www.progressiveindustries.net Progressive-industries-Warranty-Statement.pdf

John, if you remove the shades and put a small dab of caulking onto the metal tabs and then reinstall them, they will stay on until you want them to come off again. A sturdy pull will break the slight adhesive bond of the caulk and they will come right off. I did this several years ago and they've not fallen off again. I did remove one once to clean the window track. Not having any caulk on hand to reapply, I just popped it back on and it has ridden just fine since. Apparently, the extra friction from the cured caulk is still enough to keep them in place.

While I am not an aerobic-anaerobic expert concerning bacteria, I have long studied the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae in my lab. Saccharomyces cerevisiae is used to make bread, beer, and wine. When making bread, yeast primarily grows aerobically. However, when the oxygen is depleted the yeast switches its metabolism from respiration (using oxygen) to fermentation (anaerobic). Of course a byproduct of yeast fermentation is the production of alcohol, which many of us appreciate. The colon itself is anaerobic, and thus the microorganisms in feces must be able to tolerate the absence of oxygen. The most common colonic bacteria, Bacteroides, Bifidiobacterium, and Lactobacillus, are obligate anaerobes, meaning they do not grow in the presence of oxygen. In contrast, the Escherichia coli gut bacteria is a facultative aerobe, meaning it can grow under either aerobic or anaerobic conditions. I know yeast will grow aerobically, initially, and then transition to fermentation when the oxygen is depleted. The timing of the transition will depend on how much oxygen is available, and how many yeast were placed into the container (the inoculum size). There are a number of variables in Spike’s experiment: How much air was in the bottles, the size of the bacterial inoculum, and the relative ratio of obligate anaerobes to facultative aerobes in the dog poop. I looked at their web sites, and they did not provide any information as to what bacteria these products contain. I suppose it would be possible to analyze samples and figure out what they contain. I agree that additional more dog poop experiments are not warranted. Spike’s experiment did show that TankTechsRX sharply reduced the unpleasant odor from the bottled poop. Of course, a compound in TankTechsRX that inhibits bacterial growth could have the same effect. The best experiment would be two composting toilets, with only one using the TankTechsRX product. After a week, observers would be invited to give sniff tests to the two toilets. The observers would have to be blinded, meaning that the observers do not know which toilet was the experimental and which was the control. Probably more information than anyone wanted….

I appreciate your thinking on this, David. I thought a little more about your thoughts: Perhaps because the bottles still retained air to about 1/4 of their capacity, and because I shook the bottles and and only capped them for about 24 hours, the aerobic bacteria was not deprived of enough oxygen to impede their growth. Perhaps some aerobic-anaerobic expert on the forum could weigh in on this question. As for me, I'll pass on more dog-poop experiments. Combining this experiment's outcome with my own subject observations on TankTechsRX's efficiency on the grey tank and composting toilet, I will revert to dealing with my dog's yard poop in a less intimate fashion.

Olivers are not perfect, but it might be a false comparison to claim that the cost of the trailer is so high that there is no excuse for any part of it to be less than someone's interpretation of perfection. Or to assume that things like a 12v fridge is an upgrade that should be standard equipment. I really like my propane fridge and don't want a 12v unit. I had a 12v unit on my boat and didn't like it. To me, a propane fridge is not cutting corners. It's silent and can run for weeks on a propane bottle. The Shure-Flo water pump is a fine unit. They are used on boats too and have proven to be very reliable and easy to get. Sometimes, even if something is not the absolute best quality, it is still the best choice if it is reasonably priced, reliable and easy to get. "Best" can be interpreted in a number of ways and it doesn't always mean the most expensive. Oliver really shines on most of their hardware. The cabinet latches, grab handles and shore tie plug, for instance, are the best I've seen and likely to last a lifetime. Then there is the amazing bodywork. I'll take that over anything else I've seen. Oliver is improving their wiring systems and mine is/was in need of improvement. I have a rats nest of Scotchlock splices in one area that is disappointing. I found it because various lights quit working. Mine would not charge from the TV and I found it had a missing ground wire. My battery cables are made from #8 house wire and were chafing in the battery compartment, threatening to short out and cause serious problems. And finally, they only wired the earlier trailers for the options ordered, so it is hard to go back and add equipment later, like a cell phone booster. Now, the wiring harnesses are standardized. I suspect that by the time Oliver gets up to about hull 700 or so, they will have the process streamlined to near perfection. But those trailers will cost twice what mine did. I spotted weaknesses in mine the first time I stepped in, like the window shade frames, the bare fiberglass countertop and the plastic suspension bushings that are barely good enough for a dump trailer, but I never expected perfection, just an excellent design that was built with care and consideration. And that is exactly what most of it is. So, when I see something disappointing, I just take care of it and move on. I've now upgraded a number of things myself and was glad to do it, such as a stainless steel countertop, heavy duty suspension parts, the water tank fix and improvements in the wiring. I also gave up on the DVD player and got tired of the microwave trying to jump out of its cabinet. I've now re-designed the entire microwave cabinet with a different microwave and added a mini wine rack and cooking utensil storage all in the same space, with a beautiful closing door that matches the rest of my countertop pieces and will not let anything "escape". So, the beat goes on and I like my trailer, even though it is by no means perfect. Here's a list of 30 of my "improvements" (and I'm not mad at Oliver), and six more that are on the list: 1. Re-designed microwave cabinet with new microwave, wine storage, and utensil storage 2. Fixed fresh water pickup system with spin welded fitting and dip tube 3. Repaired numerous wiring glitches including poor battery wiring, Scotchloc connectors and lack of a ground wire from the tow vehicle 4. Upgraded wheels to a stronger design and added full-sized spare tire 5. Added a spare tire lock and moved license plate to the body near the left tail light. 6. Installed stainless steel countertop over plain fiberglass top that came standard 7. Installed new kitchen sink faucet with shutoff valves under the sink 8. Added accumulator tank in the freshwater system (very important) 9. Added side backsplash next to the stove 10. Added extension to tank drain connection in the back bumper area 11. Installed new DVD player and Bose speaker 12. Moved the TV to center with a new bracket 13. Added additional memory foam pads under the mattress 14. Built custom jack stands to work with the electric jacks, to eliminate the round foot on the bottom of the jacks, and the blocks 15. Added a clothesline in the bathroom 16. Added a paper towel holder 17. Fixed overhead door catches that kept opening while driving 18. Still working on a fix for the window covering frames that like to fall off 19. Went to a 2 5/16" bulldog coupler (not necessary, but I wanted it). The original 2" coupler was not bolted correctly and was beginning to elongate the mounting holes 20. Added quick disconnect outside propane connection 21. Added 8" access port on the front of propane cover 22. Modified the roll-out battery tray to eliminate the play in the system and keep the batteries from hammering the catch. 23. Added a spray head and hose to the toilet valve. (not worth doing, it was a mistake) 24. Added a stick on light in the closet after I could not seem to fix the existing factory light that does not work 25. Installed a new clear/smoked door glass and pull up shade combo in the entry door (love it) 26. Installed two grab rails on the entry screen door for easy closing of the door and to hang towels 27. Installed a custom "coyote howling at the moon" logo on the front of the trailer 28. Upgraded to 30 lb propane cylinders 29. Currently upgrading all the wiring in the battery compartment and adding a solar plug for portable panels. 30. Adding a reading light over the street side twin bed Projects coming up: Kick panel on the lower part of the screen door Install a 3000-watt inverter Fix broken bath sink faucet, add shutoff valves, create access to the faucet connections and flex hose Install a bathroom door hold open magnet Install cell phone booster Considering a rear bike rack

Update#3: Running completely off the fresh water tank for the next few weeks. I will update when I get hooked back up to city water connection. In the meantime, you fellas with these random bones of contention, please take your discussion elsewhere. This is a serious thread meant to help me and any others who might have the same problem sometime. You will run the good people off. I love my trailer, I love the Oliver company, and they have already proven to me that they stand behind their product. Nothing is perfect. I need to learn all I can about taking care of what I can. I appreciate any help I can get.

John, I know you've not been within the Oliver fold for very long so you don't know the whole story. Perhaps a little history is in order. The name "Legacy" has nothing to do with the fact that our trailers will be here long after we've passed on and gone to our reward. It was chosen by the Oliver family to honor one of their own. You see, Jim Oliver, the patriarch of the Oliver Clan and Oliver Technologies Inc. which includes Oliver Travel Trailers had a twin brother - John Oliver. It was in the mid 2000's when these two men envisioned building a better molded fiberglass travel trailer than all the others that were available. Unfortunately, John passed away before that dream could come be realized but Jim carried it to fruition, and it is John's picture on horseback that adorns the front of the very first Oliver that was built. So, it was to John's "legacy" that our trailers are dedicated and I feel sure there was no deception intended.

Be aware that there ARE much better quality parts that can be used in an RV, but they are typically used in the very high end overland rigs that may venture into Third World countries. I think OTT is missing the boat by not offering an upgraded marine appliance package, for example diesel fired cooktop, diesel combined hot water/ cabin heating system, and a DC compressor fridge. Eliminating the propane with its huge safety hazards would make a great trailer way better. Standard RV appliances are crap, pardon my language., being built in the cheapest manner possible with a built-in short life span. A few owners are upgrading to a compressor fridge either from frustration or when their propane unit dies. I have not heard of anyone ditching the propane systems entirely. The downside to installing higher quality parts is that folks like you who think $60K is expensive would have a heart attack when seeing the new MSRP. A few folks might buy, but most would shake their heads in wonder and go with the cheap stuff. It would not be a viable sales strategy in this current market. https://earthroamer.com/heating-ventilation-air-conditioning/ https://earthroamer.com/water-systems/ https://earthroamer.com/electrical-systems/ CRAFTSMANSHIP: It’s a common cliché that the “devil is in the details,” but nowhere is this more true than with electrical systems. An intelligently designed electrical system is useless if poorly routed wires chafe and short out or improperly terminated electrical connections come apart. Electrical failures can be much more than just an annoyance, an improperly installed electrical system can result in an electrical fire and potentially be life threatening. Good electrical systems require installation by a skilled craftsman who cares. Our electrical technicians have many years of experience and training, and are true craftsman who take great pride in their work. For them, electrical system installations are a work of art and a source of pride. Unfortunately, Oliver really needs to address their electrical build quality. It is disappointingly sad as delivered..... but better than the RV industry average, I suspect. John Davies Spokane WA

Took the Olliver camping to Carters Lake, a COE campground in Ellijay, Georgia , 2hours North of Atlanta. The park has two sides; one sits high on the lake and has great views. Campgrounds are spotless and they have electric and water and a dump site. The other side is much more family friendly with a beach area. That area is very isolated so make sure to take your provisions.

Spring Canyon Campground, on Lake Roosevelt two miles east of Grand Coulee Dam, central Washington. The dam lights are in the background. Lake access is very good, even when the lake level is low this time of year. Rates are $9 off season, $18 starting in May, and you get half off of that with a Federal geezer pass. There are two camping sections, the upper is newer, flatter and more easily navigated with a trailer. But the sites are really strange - they are all very short and back-in, and most have a strange partial carport roof overhead. You are expected to park the TV beside your trailer. I think this was designed before slideouts became ubiquitous. It is very unappealing to me, like camping in an apartment complex parking lot..... Has anyone seen this sort of odd arrangement elsewhere? It certainly would defeat the purpose of roof solar panels! The older lower section is on a substantial slope and the gravel pads are not real even. But the best view is there. Verizon cell signal is very strong a little way up the slope where we are. There are restrooms with running water but no hookups. There is a dump station. While shaded, there is lots of sun and it may be really hot in summer, though winter conditions are mild due to the low elevation. Winter camping here is encouraged. If you want to visit the dam area including wonderful Steamboat Rock State Park, and not pay $40 to camp, this is a teriffic location. But very busy in summer! Some sites are reservable. John Davies Spokane WA

Summer Falls in central Washington in the Scablands (Great Missoula Flood erosion area). It is 15 miles as the crow flies NE of Ephrata, at the north end of Billy Clapp Lake. We did not overnight here since it is a day use area. A one mile maintained gravel road leads off the main road to the falls. Other than a short set of steep washboarded switchbacks, it is fairly level. For all intents and purposes, Summer Falls is a man-made waterfall. Technically any water draining down Arbuckle Draw and Trail Lake Coulee would have flowed over the falls, but so little precipitation falls in this area it would have been for a matter of days, if not hours. With the construction of the Columbia Basin Reclamation Project a series of canals were built to divert water to various parts of the Columbia Plateau for irrigation. The primary canal emanating from Banks Lake was routed over the cliffs at the head of Trail Lake Coulee, forming Summer Falls. The full volume of the Canal was initially allowed to flow over the falls, but some time in the mid 1980s a hydroelectric station went online adjacent to the falls, diverting almost the entire flow away from the falls. When enough water is being pumped into Banks Lake, the falls should be flowing, but the only time when the full force of the original falls will be evident is if the generating station needs to go offline for maintenance. The site was formerly administered by the state, but due to budget constraints was turned over to the Bureau or Reclamation in 2003. Nearing the falls, an astonishing amount of water was coming down. The Stone stomper and mudflaps work great, the rear window of the Land Cruiser stays clean! The back of Mouse, not so much. And I no longer hear rocks constantly binging and banging off the frame, rear bumper and steps. The falls drop 90 feet with great vigor, with 2 foot rollers crashing onto the beach, vast clouds of spray and a constant roar. Very cool! I can’t get this pic to load right, I can’t figure out why it is flipped. I am very glad I got to see this in full spate, by summer it will be shut down.... https://www.yelp.com/biz/summer-falls-soap-lake John Davies Spokane WA

You can run.... but you can't HIDE! We plan to stay Campfire Lodgings north of Asheville NC on the way down to Lake Guntersville AL. So... I did a bit of internet cruising to see what that campground was like. I found a youtube video with a drivethrough including the road up to the campsite. And in the video.... I noticed an OLIVER! Look at the screenshots taken from the video and see if you can identify the Oliver! Video was taken around August of 2016. I have a pretty good idea of who this is but I will let the forum detectives have first shot. EDIT... on second thought... I might be wrong. "The games afoot Watson!" Scotty

For the convenience of customers and prospective customers alike, we have created a Measurement Index for the Legacy Elite II travel trailer. You may find it on our Oliver University page http://olivertraveltrailers.com/oliver-university/. This will help if you have any questions on measurements throughout the interior and exterior of the travel trailer. Coming soon: Legacy Elite I Measurement Index. Thank you