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So this trailer would qualify as currently the one with the lowest Hull Number still on the road. It's delivery date was 01-07-2008 and it was sold for just under $30K. Tony Hodgson is not the first owner.

Tillucum Beach OR USFS campground, a lovely stunning scenic area, and nice clean air. But those darn trees! Zack appears to be feeling better now, after the loss of Zadie his mom, he really likes free running on the beach. John Davies Spokane Wa

We have only had our CP plus display two weeks ago tomorrow. No issues with it. I would file a work ticket with Oliver. I hope it gets resolved quickly for you. Maybe try a battery disconnect for a full reset? Patriot🇺🇸

We purchased our 2019 EII used in September 2020 - a definite result of the Covid year! I wanted to take advantage of being able to travel in the remote school year with our youngest (and only kiddo left at home.) Shortly after having found Oliver and being pretty convinced it was a top contender, I happened upon a 2018 that had just come available not far from our home. I couldn't believe it since I knew at the time there were only a few for sale across the country. We went to look and liked it but someone else snagged it before we made a decision. I watched this forum, another fiberglass forum, RV Trader, etc., like a hawk and was about ready to place an order for a new one (but kept holding off because I really wanted one immediately so as not to waste any more of the year than we already had) and within several weeks found ours and drove to Tucson to buy it. Our surprise wasn't a cutting board made by Foy (too bad!) - - instead, we found a small leak in a fitting under the curbside bed. Thankfully, the fix was pretty straightforward and didn't cost much. Like any RV, we've had some things that have needed repair along the way but it was a GREAT purchase. We were concerned about the warranty not being transferrable to us as second owners but it turned out to not be an issue as we had little that would've been covered. There are some things we like even more about our 2019 than the newer ones - things no longer available. That, coupled with the price increases that had already occurred at the time and again since then, leaves us very satisfied with our decision to buy used. We've taken so many trips and have seen things we wouldn't have otherwise. USED FOR THE WIN in our case!

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I would not worry about it. Just remove the tanks and the all-thread rod and if your floor is not already covered, you will have to build a floor and depending on what you plan to carry in that area, you will have to decide if you want the floor to be solid and sealed. If that is not necessary to your needs, I would suggest using expanded wire. if your circumstances become dire enough and you find yourself in a situation where you need propane, you can just go buy a 20 pound tank at one of the exchange stations. That way you don’t have to carry it around if you don’t need it. It does sound like you haven’t needed propane in several years so the chances of a future need should the relatively slim. You can also remove the regulator for the tanks and just cap the line. This would make it easy to return to OEM status for a future owner.

Be simple to put in a false floor which is designed for easy removal when and if the owner rethinks the modification or to return the trailer to a normal camping configuration if the owner decides to sell.

That is my biggest concern about adding a storage box like others have (leaving propane tanks as is) because we have a 1500, I’m very mindful of our tongue weight. Most I’ve seen with the boxes added are towing with a 2500 or 3500. I just feel that it’s such wasted space since we never use propane. I do like the idea of leaving one tank and installing a floor/access, that would be some extra useful space.🤔 Thank you for the advice/ideas.

I found it interesting that the guys from CGI brought this subject up. Simply put - they believe that there is no way that the warranty can work in that it will either eventually force that company out of business due to cost of claims or because the "job" will simply not hold up. They asked me if I knew any if information about it - I don't. They also wondered if this price included the polishing and prep work and a coating made for fiberglass rather than for regular clearcoat - I didn't know that either. Having said this - I was aware of this Facebook post prior to writing the check to CGI. In a rough calculation - not including the cost of the materials used in the process - what I paid calculates to just under $45 per hour of work for each of the 4 guys and this doesn't include something for the company -- i.e. costs for advertising, accounting, washing Twist at the Rally, etc. Bottom line - I'd need to know a lot more about what I'd get for the $1900.00 before I'd make the trip to AZ. And, I'm satisfied with the job that CGI did. Bill

While camping I tried: (1) turning the CP Plus off, then on again and (2) turning off all 3 of our batteries, then turning them off again and (3) doing a Reset following Truma's instructions. None of the three methods worked. So, once I got home, I submitted a service ticket. Since I wasn't using any of the Truma appliances at home, I turned the CP Plus off. A few hours later, Hannah Dowdy from Oliver responded to my service ticket by recommending a Reset. I decided to try that again. To my surprise, when I turned the CP Plus back on, the display read correctly! No Reset was required. It would appear that turning the CP Plus off, then waiting several hours, resolved the display issue. Hope this helps if anyone else encounters this quirky issue.

No question about that! Meeting the 4 guys that are the crew for CGI is a real treat - young (relative to me anyway), energetic, personable, and not afraid of real work! However, if you get a chance, it is also a treat to meet the parents of Gavin - such nice people. When you do you will realize just why he has the qualities mentioned above. Not only does Twist look better than it did the day I took delivery, but at least some of my faith in the future of our country has been restored by these individuals. Bill

BTW, I’ve already started gathering names/site number/state/hull number for next year. 😉

Thanks! Yes we were at the rally and got home yesterday.

@Coach and JoJo Sorry, for the delayed reply, we just got home from the Rally. Yes it runs the Truma Aventa. We are really happy with it so far. Patriot🇺🇸

Thank you, Chris. I was genuinely surprised at how many people we saw using the list! I’m glad that it came in handy. It was funny, because when I’d handout a contact card, invariably, the response would be “Oh, you’re the list guy” or “ Oh, you’re Curiously! I loved the story” We met so many wonderful people and already look forward to next year. You’ll again find us on G23. We’ve also made plans with several Ohio, Indiana, and at least one Illinois owners to get together in Indiana late September or early October. Thank you all for making our first rally so memorable! Steve and Deb

Amen, Bill :)

Maybe you should tell us your hull number and what brand and model inverter. It should have wiring instructions for the DC and the AC parts, that list cable sizes and other important specs. A 3000 watt inverter requires very heavy cables that you will probably have to make yourself. .John Davies Spokane WA

Well that’s right! For now we will continue to wash and wax and keep her polished up and in the shade of the Ollie hangar. 👍🏻😊

Bill, Yes, I sent you the FB post before you went to have the CC done by CGI. The bottom line… heck it’s only a $1200 difference. If you’re happy that’s all that counts! 😊 Shine On!! Patriot🇺🇸

You could carry a whole bunch of Lego blocks in there with only one bottle…. John Davies Spokane WA

It would be a horrible idea, but only IF you didn’t plan to bring a 20 pound backup bottle in your truck. For safety reasons the bottle should be completely open to the air, not under a tonneau or cap. I have thought about your plan, you could take off the doghouse completely and build a dandy bolt-on aluminum storage/ bike platform there. But you have a light duty truck so you would still have to watch your tongue weight. What would you carry there? My trailer has an aluminum expanded mesh floor under the bottles and I keep all my wood blocks and some ropes in there, accessible through two hinged side doors. But nothing bulky will fit there with both bottles in place. you could install a floor and access openings and travel with a single 20 pound one in the factory location. would that be enough space? John Davies Spokane WA

I am i complete agreement Bill! Kirk

So... there's some awesome threads in the forum about those who order brand new Olivers from the factory. We thoroughly enjoy reading stories written by folks waiting for months for the day they'll travel to the "Mother Ship" to collect their newly hatched Egg. We thought it would be interesting to hear from those of us who decided to join the OTT Family by easing into it by investing in a previously owned rig. Commenting on some of issues, challenges, and probably the most interesting... the "surprises" they found after buying their OTT might be very entertaining. We invite y'all to pipe-up and share some of your funny, or even not-so-funny experiences... We could all learn a lot from these posts, IMHO. It should go without saying, but original OTT owners are 100% encouraged to comment and engage in this General Discussion Topic! What say, you? Cheers to the Oliver Family!

...the guy looking back at me in my mirror is a spit'n image of what I remember my dad looked like - scary! He definitely needs "detailing!" 🤪

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If you scroll down through the direct link katjo posted earlier, you'll see a 2023 in all its splendor. The empty frame for Oliver on opening was disappointing, for sure. Maybe it will be corrected. Great cause. I'm in.

We like new apps! I am going to give these a shot. Thank you for posting! Patriot🇺🇸

Very cool cause! Get your tickets! https://wildliferaffle.com/?inf_contact_key=7492eeaa601e31012de52d06e5c172ea680f8914173f9191b1c0223e68310bb1

I considered CampNab but ultimately decided it wasn't worth the cost as I've been pretty successful finding cancellations on my own. I may change my mind in the future if my success wanes! Thanks for the info on the new app.

I participated in something similar last year called CampNab. It worked but you better be ready for the notification and react quickly or someone else will get ahead of you.

John & Kim, A thin flat washer will probably change where the fitting points when it bottoms out. I pointed all of the pin straight zerks outward, the grease gun I have works OK with them. routlaw, Did the fitting take grease easily when the EZ Flex was installed? The single pin port should be pointing horizontal to pump grease in the bushing with weight on the wheel. If the port is pointing up or down, you may not be able to pump grease in with weight on or off the wheel, depends on which way the port is pointing. Try with weight on the wheel, too.

Mine were all 1/4”-28 thread size (2019 Elite II with the Dexter EZ Flex suspension) and I switched them to the 45 degree angled type. But as Steve mentioned above, some Oliver trailers have metric thread fittings (an M6x1 thread size).

The original "oldest" , the one that started it all, is the John Oliver trailer, on display in Hohenwald. We all benefit from the labor of love of the twins, Jim and John, and the continued efforts of their family, and the extended family of Oliver employees. A side note: both our 46+ year sailboat, and our 2008 Oliver, are hulls #12. How very cool is that?

It depends on definition. @Bshaffer owns #10, and is a second or third owner, and has done amazing renovations on the ultimately cute red jelly bean, and is sometimes active here on the forum. I see her more often when I check in on Facebook group. We have #12, as original owners. Pete , @bugeyedriver is just a month or so younger than our hull #12. (14, I think, and original owner.) #3 contacted me years ago. I don't know if they still have it. #3 is the storied trailer owned by Mountainborn, where it all really began, for marketing. We bought ours, after seeing a grainy video on another site, and visiting the factory with the late Robert Partee. I've been in touch with a number of original and second owners over the years. Still friends with a number of those from our "small group" days of camping together at unofficial rallies. Very close friends with a handful, whether they still own their Ollie or not. Others, we camp and sail with on a regular basis. (Obviously, we're all older. Some don't camp anymore.) A number of the early trailers are still out there, somewhere, but not in touch with the forum. Truth is, our now 15 and 16 year old trailers have stood the "test of time." And, it's been exciting for all of us "older" gen owners to watch the progression and evolution from the original Elite I. We tend to pick and choose pur updates, but continued ownership, and the reliability, is a testament to the product. Personally, I can't say enough about the support and family feeling we've received from Oliver over the now many years. It's a great corporate culture. So many great people. Before Mountainborn, I never knew there was a Hohenwald, Tennessee. Now, it's one of our favorite towns.

One of the great features of the Oliver trailer design is the fast and easy (no tools needed) access to ALMOST all of the plumbing, heating, and electrical systems through the hatches under the dinette seats and the beds, or by removing the kitchen cabinet drawers. One area that’s NOT readily accessible is the area under the bathroom vanity, even though there is plumbing, electrical, and furnace ductwork all tucked inside the vanity. The storage cubby in the front of the vanity is screwed AND CAULKED in place by Oliver at the factory, so access is a bit more complicated than the other areas. I recently needed to get into that vanity area for some inspection and maintenance, and after completing that I wanted to make future access easier (no tools needed and no caulking). I know some owners have replaced the storage cubby with a hinged marine access panel, but I didn’t want to lose the cubby storage. So here’s a detailed description of a simple modification I did, along with links to the parts used. Access is now fast and easy. No-Slip Clip-On Barrel Nut, for 0.025" to 0.15" Panel Thickness, 8-32 Thread Size https://www.mcmaster.com/94850A111 #8-32 x 1" Thumb Screw Stainless... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FZVLZKD?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share uxcell Edge Trim U Seal Extrusion, Silicone White U Channel Edge Protector Sheet Fits 0.5-2.5mm Edge 3Meters/9.84Ft Length https://a.co/d/1uWUZB3 Molex -3 Match Set - (3-Pin) w/14-20 AWG, Wire Connector - 2.13mm D, Latch Lock, MLX https://a.co/d/gapvioi

Further info: both fractures are on the passenger side of the TV - the same side the cable bundle rests on while the TV is folded up. The cables aren't very heavy, but wondering if that's enough to accelerate the damage on that side. Now convinced the TV should be in the down position while traveling.

Oliver Service did that as a factory option in 2017, one on each aide, they don’t do that sort of stuff to new trailers coming off the production line any more, but I am sure they would do it for you for time and materials cost. Anybody who can cut and drill fiberglass can easily install the doors. The floor should be done by a skilled aluminum welder IMHO and tacked down to the frame in a few spots to keep it from moving and damaging the hull. John Davies Spokane WA

I cook everything on electric or campfire. I’ve never used the propane in our Oliver or our last camper either. We will carry a smaller (just in case) tank if we remove the 2 large tanks.

We like the Ceramic coating on our truck and it does make a difference. I would strongly encourage a price check on having your Ollie done. An Ollie owner on FB recently had his LE2 completely done in Arizona for $1900.00. This also included all of his windows with a 5 year warranty. Patriot🇺🇸

We used a standard metal cutting drill bit, measured (3 or 4 times) and predrilled holes in box, positioned it exactly in place, "Sharpie-marked" through the predrilled holes to the fiberglass pre-fixed with 3M Blue Painters tape. Spring-punched the marks, pre-drilled through fiberglass on a rather slow speed and light pressure on the drill motor, then drilled through the aluminum frame. Final-drilled all holes - filled holes with clear silicon caulk; mounted box and applied a final bead of clear caulk around all edges. It feels like a very solid fit...FYI.

We've been using Harvest Host for years - but the annual fees are a drag. We used H2 on our return leg from a recent trip to Mexico last weekend - an awesome Vinyard in Wilcox, AZ: "Pillsbury Vinyards". Literally camped with the vines! HA! @SeaDawg: We'll be giving this new app a shot also - thanks for the great post information!

@rideandfly yeah I tried it both ways with weight initially off the wheel, then lowered and tried again all to no avail. The pin points out straight or horizontally though. To the best of my recollection it took grease when new and installed. Thanks. I suppose anther option would be to disassemble that joint, lube and reinstall.

@Patriot recently upgraded his ac, and got the 3200.

Has anyone used this vendor for a custom box? If so, what dimensions did you go with? With the hindsight of having had this vendor build a box for you, any insights you can share with us? My inclination would be to go with a smaller box than the lighter commercial boxes shown in previous posts ... just enough for chocks and a few commonly used setup tools & supplies.

I was too! There may other, more elegant ways to mount it. I figured it wasn’t coming off and if it did I’d replace it with something so the holes won’t show.

We are staying at a hoity toity resort RV park in Bend OR, $210 for 2 nights. For the low rent spots. I think the best spots require your first born child. I seldom dump into a raised sewer pipe, so I never bought a sewer snake, I thought it would just gather dust. So I improvised with the ramp for the 1-Up bike tray. I dislike hookups that require you to lay your fresh water hose on ground that has been irrigated regularly with sewage spills, so I bypassed that area. Off to the ocean tomorrow - Tillicum Beach CG USFS, we will have to rough it once again. Then I can fret about rogue waves and tsunamis instead of germs. We lost one of our Australian Labradoodles the day before we departed home, we had to euthanize Zadie. Zack, her son for ten years, is quite lost and forlorn, as are my wife and I. John Davies Spokane WA

Interesting. Carrie and I always carry our propane fire pit with us now. Growing up I was in the group of “it’s not camping without a big wood fire”. It’s good that some of us can evolve. Kirk

We purchased our 2015 LE2 #75 used during 2016 from the original owners. Scheduled a plant tour with Jason during May 2016 and our new to us LE2 also came up for sale on the forum during the same week we were scheduled for the plant tour. After the plant tour we headed to MO that afternoon to see the used Ollie. Camped in Ollie that night on the previous owner's farm and purchased Ollie the next day. Towed Ollie home with a 2013 Nissan 4.0L Frontier. First thing learned even though our previous travel trailer was less than 1/2 the weight of Ollie with fuel economy at 13MPG, fuel economy increased to over 15MPG towing Ollie with the Frontier from MO to NC. Ollie had great towing manners and stopped nicely when someone pulled out in front of us during the trip home. Had some water leaks from the dinette window and rear Oliver sign. Once the leaks were fixed, no leaks since. 🙂 Now towing Ollie with a 2022 Toyota Tundra and getting over 15MPG in NC & TN. Our LE2 did not have original factory installed solar charging so we use portable suitcase solar charging with BattleBorn lithium battery. Always admired the white window shades in later model Ollies, so we purchased a set from Oliver. Next camping trips will be on the Blue Ridge Parkway in NC! Still get the comment "Is this a brand new camper"! 🙂 Valley of Fire NV: Blue Ridge Parkway NC: 🙂

Who has the oldest Ollie?

In the menu and under forums, as well as a button near the top right is "Unread Content", which shows a list of all threads that are new since your last visit, or unread in general. When this list is presented, there is a large ball or star to the left of the thread title. Clicking on this takes you directly to the first unread post. The ones with stars are threads that you have participated in. My typical forum visit (on my desktop) is to poke the Unread Content button, and then once the list is presented, I'll Command-Click (right-click?) all of the balls or starts I'm interested in reading. This opens them all up in new tabs. Once done, I mark all threads as read if I skipped any, so that I'm caught up for the next visit.