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  1. We have not owned our LEII for very long, but I'll give you a single data point.  Hopefully others will weigh in as well.

    2011 Tundra Crew Max Platinum with tow package, Andersen WDH, Firestone Ride-Rite airbags. 105,000 miles.  We recently set out on our first "long" trip - drove about 4500 miles over two weeks. Atlanta to Memphis, then Hot Springs, AR, Dallas and on out to White Sands, NM. Guadalupe Mountains and then on to Big Bend NP. Highest elevation seen was about 7000', steepest grade was up to Guadalupe Mountains.  Worst mileage was 8.5 mpg, best 11.5 mpg. I drove as fast as 75 MPH when the winds weren't on the nose.

    The truck worked hard at times, but the coolant and transmission temps never budged. Would I like a diesel?  Sure, but only if it were the Toyota diesel available in the LC in non-U.S markets.  I have ordered a Magnusson supercharger as it is bolt on and Magnusson used to supply Toyota these kits under the TRD badge. I'll provide a report back once it's installed. Also going to do a suspension upgrade with ARB/OME shocks/struts and springs for better ride and handling. I would like the 38 gallon tank for the Alaska trip, but I've decided not to do that mod.

    The Andersen WDH does require a few extra minutes to hook up and remove, but I didn't find it problematic.

    As to what was in the bed of the truck - tool box, Clam (which we didn't use at all), Camp Chef stove, RTIC cooler, chairs and other misc. stuff.  For our Alaska trip, we will put two Honda generators in the front basket of the Ollie and I'm building an aluminum rear rack similar to the one I saw on another Ollie - to carry two spare tires, a Jerry can and the RTIC cooler.  This will remove some of the tongue weight added by the generators.

    Haven't been on a CAT scale yet, but will do this once all the truck mods are done.  Between the airbags and the WDH, the truck rides level, as does the Ollie.

  2. On 11/29/2020 at 8:30 AM, GAP said:

    While on the subject, does anyone have the rear view option that comes with the trailer.  We went that way and, as we have not yet done our pick up, I'm wondering if it is wired into the back up lights or is always on?  Hoping it's the latter.


    Our 2020 LEII has the factory installed rear camera option.  Yes, there is a switch on the main panel inside the entry door that turns on the power to the camera mounted on the rear of the trailer.  Once it's powered and paired to the receiver/monitor in your tow vehicle, the video provided by the camera remains on at all times. There are no connections to the tow vehicle (like a reverse switch), other than the 12 volt power needed by the monitor.

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  3. 1 hour ago, Mainiac said:

    Think a smaller unit would be more efficient, more quiet (important), and more than enough to cool an Oliver. A unit running longer and slower will remove more moisture, as it cools. Being cool, and with lower moisture, it should also be longer between operating cycles.

    There is nothing quiet about the 11K BTU Dometic a/c. I did sound level comparisons with John Davies who was fortunate enough to have Oliver install a 13.5K BTU Atwood Air Command unit in his Oliver. The Atwood was half as noisy as the Dometic.

    I’m ordering an Atwood for retrofit as soon possible. The Dometic is horribly noisy. I did the same retrofit in our previous motor home. 

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  4. I recently bought a similar model, but it uses dies. I was planning to use it to redo the battery cables on our Forest River motorhome that were poorly made (FR used a hammer style crimper) - but we sold the FR and bought the Ollie.

    We are now using it for the high current cables on the new airplane we are building. It does a really nice job crimping the large terminals. 

    I did ask to see how Oliver made battery cables when we toured the plant. I was happy to see they use a proper crimper. 

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  5. 1 hour ago, topgun2 said:


    But, these changes have also (on average) brought benefits to the owners of these trailers either through better utility of safety or lower price increases than would have happened otherwise.


    Not sure how the switch from U.S. made Trojan batteries to the basically no-name Chinese produced batteries jive with your statement.

    I agree that some of the changes have been positive, but this is one that (in my view) is not. 

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  6. Like Susan, we had a MB Sprinter based RV.  Never had any issues with it, but the wheel sensor issue was quite well known and carrying a spare set of rear sensors was good insurance.  They aren't hard to change on the side of the road if needed. I don't think having an RV coach on the chassis had any bearing on wheel sensor longevity - it's just a weak spot in the design.  But so is the emissions system on the 3.0 diesel - many of which have now been recalled due to some "cheating" by Bosch and the various German chassis manufacturers. 

    Also like Susan, we sold our MBS RV recently when we bought our Ollie.  We are planning a long journey from Georgia to Alaska and I really didn't trust the MB chassis (or the Forest River coach).  As mentioned, MB or Freightliner dealers are few and far between in certain areas. 

    I know folks love their Fords, Chevy/GMC and Ram trucks, but it's hard to beat the reliability of a Tacoma or Tundra. The Tacoma still outsells the Ranger and Colorado, even though it is a dated design and not as feature-laden.

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  7. The Dometic installed in my Oliver is an 11K BTU Dometic Penguin, so smaller capacity and twice as loud as John's Air Command. If someone has an earlier model that was built with the 13.5K units, I would be interested to see the sound measurements.

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  8. Great information John. Assuming our phones are reasonably close in measurements (and the baseline numbers would confirm that they are) - the Atwood is approximately half as loud as the Dometic.  This corresponds very nicely to our experience in our MBS motorhome where we replaced a Dometic with an Atwood.

    In that case, it was a ducted system and the unit sat directly over the dinette area.  We had to turn the fan off when we ate because the sound level was so high.  The Atwood cured that and we could easily converse over meals with the system even on high.  However, the ducted system did allow you to close off the "dump" vent right there at the grill and force all of the air through the ducts.  This is not possible on the non-ducted units of course.

    I agree with your assessment of outside noise.  I can hear the Dometic running from a long way away and the Atwood is much quieter.

    Now I just have to decide whether or not it's worth the time and expense to replace the a/c.  The Atwood is available as a heat pump, however it's 15K BTU which might be too much for the Ollie even in our hot and humid environment in the South. Time to do some additional research...

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  9. Thanks for the information and video. The other systems show some promise.

    I’m really hoping that John provides sound level data that supports my desire to install the Air Command heat pump. Better cooling, quieter, lower amp draw plus it’s a heat pump as well. 


  10. Turns out the failure was due to the lack of a $0.05 screw that was never installed by Dometic. I found that it was missing today when I removed the flush ball valve. 

    Fortunately, Cindy at Oliver service was able to source the screw and is sending it to me.

    Domestic doesn’t provide any parts breakdown or replacement parts except for the ball valve seal and the water valve. 



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  11. 33 minutes ago, ScubaRx said:

    You stated in your original post: “When cleaning our never used Dometic flush toilet....”


    Yep, never used (at least by us - don't know about any of the Oliver folks).  We picked up the trailer in Hohenwald and towed it directly home. The weather forecast was lousy so we didn't stay in David Crockett.

    We haven't used the trailer yet and I was cleaning the toilet since there was some slime in it.  That's when I discovered the ball flush valve wasn't connected to the foot pedal.


  12. 15 minutes ago, Buck said:

    Are you talking about the ball valve where the supply line comes through the floor?

    No, it's the flush ball valve in the bottom of the toilet bowl.  The water valve works fine.  This is apparently a common failure mode for this toilet based on comments on the Dometic website.

    Thanks for all the suggestions, I found a mobile service person that will come and replace the toilet on Dometic's dime.

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  13. 19 hours ago, bhncb said:

    Given the age of your LEII, and your location, I'd tow it back to Hohenwald and have them replace the toilet. In the long run, you'll save both time and aggravation.

    Let's see - 10 hours of driving plus a couple of hours at Oliver. 668 miles round trip at (IRS rate) $0.58 per mile - $387.44 plus a night in a hotel (can't stay in the trailer without a toilet) = approximately $500.00

    Dometic 311 toilet - less than $200 plus an hour or so of my work (in addition I'll learn how to replace the toilet).

    Doesn't really make sense to me...

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  14. When cleaning our never used Dometic flush toilet a couple of days ago, I noticed the ball valve did not open when I pushed the flush pedal.  Water flowed, so the flush valve is working ok.  I was able to move the ball valve by hand - it's obviously disconnected from the flush lever.

    My local Dometic service center is 4-6 weeks out and so far, no luck with a mobile service center.

    This failure seems to be pretty common according to the numerous negative reviews of this toilet on the Dometic web site.

    The parts are not available from Dometic and Jason indicated the toilet needs to be replaced.  However, I have found some aftermarket parts that claim to be more robust than the plastic pieces Dometic uses. So I assume a repair is possible.

    If anyone has had this failure and if so, have you attempted to repair the toilet yourself?  I dislike RV dealers even more than auto dealers and would rather have a root canal than leave my new trailer at a dealer for an indeterminate amount of time.

  15. Given the numerous posts and prior experience with a Dometic noisemaker air conditioner, I have contemplated replacing the A/C unit on our brand new Oliver with an Atwood Air Command heat pump. I had done this previously on our MBS based motorhome and we were extremely pleased with the results.  That being said, I was aware of one Ollie owner who has an Air Command A/C factory installed in his Ollie and he indicated to me he wasn't thrilled with the noise level from it either.

    So we agreed to take measurements using the same iPhone app and although not scientific, I am hopeful the results are different enough to warrant the change to the Air Command. My results are listed below and I expect John will weigh in at some point when he is able to take similar measurements on his Ollie.

    Since I'm not sure I can attach an Excel file, the list will be in this order -

    Location, Baseline measurement, Low Fan, High Fan with compressor running (all measurements "A" weighted DB)

    Front dinette seat (phone on table) - 35, 68, 71

    Rear dinette seat (phone on table) - 34, 71, 72

    Left bed (phone on bed at aft end) - 31, 70, 74

    Right bed (phone on bed at aft end) - 32, 70, 73

    Standing under A/C (phone held at 5') - 32, 76, 78

    Looking forward to the comparison with the Atwood.

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  16. 15 hours ago, Susan Huff said:

    We don't have our EII yet, but I'm sure it will do just fine.  No, not just fine . . . . . it will be perfect!

    I like the open feel of the interior you get with the front bathroom.  Width is fine; so much easier towing when you can see what's behind.  As some have mentioned, a larger fridge would be nice.  

    The downside is the impact the introduction of a new model would have on the production line.  Keep it simple, I say, just as it is.


    The downside of not listening to your customers and potential new customers and then using that market research to make continuous improvements - is that your products get stale and folks will look elsewhere.  Just as there are Elite I owners who probably transition to the Elite II, I'm sure there are Elite II owners that would like to transition to a larger Oliver - but that is not a choice right now. Based on comments on this forum, it appears there is a market for an Elite III.

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  17. Bought some at EAA Airventure a couple years ago when they first came out. The rubber inserts protect from abrasion, so I can use them on an engine mount - where a standard nylon tie would be problematic. 

    I haven’t  used them on anything other than on the airplanes, but they would probably be useful in other applications. As you mentioned, they aren’t inexpensive. 

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  18. After a 5 1/2 hour PDI (Oliver had trouble programming the awning remotes), we headed back to Atlanta. Other than some very minor issues found during the PDI, the camper was in great shape. It has sat outside for a couple of months now, so I believe that any leaks would have been discovered.

    Arrived in Atlanta a little after 9 P.M. Managed to miss heavy traffic everywhere, except unusually heavy truck traffic in both lanes climbing Monteagle and a little more near Chattanooga. This trailer pulls quite nicely with our Tundra.

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  19. Thanks for the information and your concern. Atlanta is home and we are quite used to the parking lot that is I-75/85. I'm pretty used to long days and towing, as well.

    I totally agree that an overnight shakedown is important. However, I have less than zero interest in setting up and taking down a new to me trailer in pouring down rain and lightning. So unless the weather guessers are wrong, we will camp another day and deal with any issues some other time.

  20. I'm too lazy to search so apologies if this has been answered already.

    We pick up our new LEII on Wednesday.  The plan was to camp overnight in David Crockett - however 100% chance of thunderstorms forecast for the area for Wednesday and Thursday.  Zero desire to camp under those conditions when it's not required.

    I know it's not the most prudent to skip the overnight, but we are only 5 hours from Hohenwald if we need to return the camper for repairs. I can fix most things, although we bought the Oliver in the (probably naive) hope that it will be relatively problem free. If it's not vastly superior to our Forest River motorhome, we won't keep it very long.

    So here is the question for my planning - those of you that picked up their Ollie recently - how long did you spend at Hohenwald on your PDI? I'm trying to determine if we can make it back home to Atlanta on the same day as the delivery. Given that we won't be camping, I expect we will spend additional time on the PDI.

    Thanks in advance.

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