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  1. I can easily overload my entire trailer, use a dangerous tow vehicle, fail to configure my brake controller, fail to inspect and maintain wheels, etc... Artificially limiting what we can use our receiver for is pretty silly given the already high level of potential danger involved in towing. Oliver should simply put a load sticker on it like everything else and give responsible owners a 2 inch receiver.

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  2. 39 minutes ago, Mainiac said:

    I believe it was a workplace incidence that required the first change in awning manufacture. It was a needed hurry up to continue production.

    Can you expand on that a bit? An incident at Oliver or at Dometic?


  3. 1 hour ago, NCeagle said:

    the length I have learned from Sales is 16' on the Elite II.

    I'm honestly surprised they went with the 16'. The cost difference is substantial. Assuming the quality is on par or better than the Dometic, good on them. Thanks for the info!

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  4. 37 minutes ago, Overland said:

    I think if you discharge them less, it doesn't have as much of an affect, proportionately, on the battery's life.

    Yeah, DOD has a huge impact on batteries, even lifepo4.

    Here is a graph from another manufacturer but the curves should apply more or less to any battery of similar chemistry:


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  5. 2 hours ago, Mike and Carol said:

    I’m scratching my head a little

    The lifepo4 stuff is arguably a bit over-hyped. That said, you only need to look at cycles and DOD to understand why lifepo4 has a following: https://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/AGM_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf

    If you discharged somewhere between 80-90% of an AGM, the expected number of cycles would be 500. Compare that to lifepo4 which claims to handle 100% DOD at 2800 cycles. The AGM setup would realistically need replaced 4-5 times before the lifepo4 setup would need to be.

    It all just boils down to how many amps you can pull before the batteries bite the dust. I'm guessing there is only a slight advantage ($ per amp) to lifepo4 at current prices but lifepo4 costs should continue to fall.

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  6. 1 hour ago, LiFeBlueBattery said:

    You can fully discharge (100% DoD) our battery without harming it also. Our low voltage cutoff happens when any cell group drops to 2.8V. The battery will enter sleep mode by disabling the MPU including Bluetooth. Current draw is reduced to 0.0005 Amps (5 micro-A).

    That is great information. Stuff like that should be on your website! Seriously consider hiring a web developer and adding more technical information. The current site made me seriously consider how I might spend $4,000 elsewhere. 🤪

    A lot of the early battery management systems would actually kill lifepo4; parasitic drain from WiFi, Bluetooth, LEDs, etc.

    I really appreciate you taking the time to answer most of these questions.

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  7. 26 minutes ago, Overland said:

    But worse, if you think it's going to get over 100° in the battery box, which is definitely a possibility anywhere in the south if you leave your trailer in the sun, you have to remove them and store them inside?

    I'm not sure where the 95F number on Lifeblue's datasheet comes from other than Topband's optimal storage conditions. If you look at the real data sheet it states:

    Storage Environment:

    < 1 Month: -20~+60℃,5~75%RH

    < 3 Months: -10~+45℃,5~75%RH

    Recommended Environment: 15~35℃,5~75%RH

    Charge and discharge temps:

    Charge:     0~45℃
    Discharge:     -20~60℃

    Source: http://www.rechargeablelifepo4battery.com/sale-11854400-bluetooth-app-12v-200ah-lithium-iron-phosphate-battery-customize-with-heating-film.html

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  8. 2 hours ago, John E Davies said:

    What is your truck?

    Hey, John. I'm the guy with the LC200. I'm encouraged to hear that the Yamaha doesn't stink up your vehicle; I'd like to keep the tongue weight around 650 so every bit helps.  Have you considered a propane conversion? I'd love to hear your reasoning for or against it. I'm OK with the efficiency loss but on the other hand, keeping an extra 6-8 gallons of fuel that I can toss into the LC should I miscalculate also seems forward thinking 😬

  9. 6 minutes ago, Overland said:

    The one I have is the square platform, which was copied from the one that ScubaRx made for himself.  I bought a rhino rack basket that fits on it about perfectly so it functions as extra storage.

    I think I've looked at every receiver modification posted on the forum. They are starting to all blur together at this point 😁 I really don't understand why they don't add a 2 inch receiver to allow for racks like the 1up. It is one of the only racks I'd feel OK about strapping to the back of the trailer. Slap a sticker on it with the weight limit and call it a day. I'd be happy to sign legal documentation if that is what it takes...

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  10. 9 minutes ago, SeaDawg said:

    Maybe consider a propane genset?

    We're going to pick up suitcase panel but would like the generator for extended trips as a just-in-case should the batteries get too low. I've been looking into the Honda EU2200i propane conversion kit but wasn't sure if it could work off the already regulated quick connects on the Oliver. If anyone has info on the subject I'd love to hear about it!

  11. 4 hours ago, Overland said:

    Things I'm glad I didn't get:

    Do you use a generator? I'm not sure where we would place ours if we don't opt for the basket since we're in an SUV.

    4 hours ago, Overland said:

    Things I'm glad I got:

    How often do you deploy the 2nd awning and what do you use it for? Window shade?

    4 hours ago, Overland said:

    Rear receiver - would see if I could get the old platform style rack fabbed somewhere or make my own with 80/20

    I hate the current design but the old one didn't look much better. Any reason you prefer the older design?

  12. 34 minutes ago, Dean said:

    In cold temperatures, when does the warming feature operate?  Is it constant below a set temperature or does the system vary to meet charge demands?  How many watts are used for temp control?

    Here is the data I have for the heating element. This could be different on LifeBlue's but I doubt it:

    Note: The language isn't mine 😃

    "Heating on conditions:
    1. Below the low temperature charging protection value -2 ° C.
    2. Temperature is more than -30 ° C (the lowest temperature allowed to open the heating film)
    Meet the above two conditions to open the heating.
    Stop heating conditions:
    1. Stop heating when above the heating termination temperature.
    2. Stop heating when in the discharge state.
    3. In the low temperature protection state, heating should be stopped when heating is for more than one hour or so."

  13. 40 minutes ago, bhncb said:

    Yes. Oliver provides the RVLock brand. It motorizes the deadbolt section but the handle is still free to move the latch bolt. Fool me once....

    Yeah, I'm kind of surprised Oliver hasn't switched their electronic offer to Global Link since they are already using Global Link as the standard option. It looks mechanically superior is almost every way (again this isn't saying much). Hard to find many reports on it so I'm assuming it is a newer product. My limited research shows it has been out for about a year.

  14. 31 minutes ago, Overland said:

    FWIW, it feels pretty solid and I haven't heard anyone complain of one breaking.  I'm sure it could be picked or forced open without much difficulty, though.

    For sure! They actually publish high resolution images of their master key 🤣 I think I'm going to just stick with the standard lock and replace it with the Global Link electronic lock should I go crazy with the manual entry.

  15. 12 minutes ago, Overland said:

    I think Oliver’s kit is fine for most, but there’s always better stuff out there, if you’re willing to spend the money and time. 

    I agree. There is nothing wrong with Oliver's setup but if you're technical or have the time to become informed, there are better options on the market. If cellular wasn't critical to me, I'd probably just opt for the wifiranger setup and call it a day. The cost isn't that much above the MSRP of the device and the installation will be clean. If you're interested in seeing what else is out there, rvmobileinternet.com is by far the best source on the internet. Their youtube channel is another place to start: https://www.youtube.com/mobileinternetresourcecenter

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