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  1. 15 hours ago, Rivernerd said:

    Following my first hard reboot in May, our Xantrex Freedom XC Pro 3000 Watt inverter once again shut down when asked to handle loads over 1400 watts at less that 100% State of Charge.  So I tried just turning off all three batteries, as suggested by Geronimo John.  Although I left the batteries off for a couple of days before turning them back on, the inverter still shut down when asked to handle loads over 1400 watts.

    So, I did a second hard reboot by physically disconnecting both the positive and negative battery cables from the inverter, and waiting 3 days.  For reasons I do not understand, physically disconnecting the battery cables enabled the inverter to once again handle loads over 1400 watts, while just turning off the batteries did not.  How long the effects of that second hard reboot will last remains to be seen.

    Tom and Doreen:  have you done a hard reboot on your Xantrex inverter?  If so, what were the results?

     

     

    Try adjusting a setting in the Xantrex app.  Look under inverter settings and find "Low Battery Cut Off".  I have mine set at 12.5 v. ....could go lower but never needed to do so. Just watch the SOC so batteries don't fully deplete. The LBCO delay timer is set for 10 s.

    There is no doubt that this LBCO setting will cut the inverter off.

    Steve

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  2. 18 minutes ago, johnwen said:

    Thanks, Steve.  Sounds pretty involved.  I think maybe I need to schedule a visit to OTT before or after the Rally.  We'll be at Lake Guntersville  for 10 days or so.  Did you install yours?  I'm somewhat handy but am in need of supervision on occasion 🙂

    John

    Yeah if it is under warranty Oliver should resolve it.

    They are easy to work with whether you can take it to them or have them approve a mobile tech.

    Steve

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  3. 2021 LE2

    You can remove the outer top plastic cover...about eight screws. Then remove two screws that hold down the top molded foam. Once that is removed (real tight fit) you can see the condensation drain tubes at the front of the unit. I could see condensation inside the tubes. There is a tube joint connection there also.

    I don't know if you can reach back into the unit to feel for the condensation collection cups. You might also take off the inside air distribution cover. From up roof top I can see the backside of that cover.

    When reattaching the covers the screw torque is 14in lbs. Truma tech cautioned me not to exceed and strip out the holes.

    Steve

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  4. 2021 LE2

    Below are pics of the thermostat in my Ollie.

    The second pic is with the face plate removed....it just pulls straight out.

    You will see that there are three male terminals (encircled with yellow pads)...these are operating like touch contacts rather than buttons. With the face plate attached you are pushing the face plate to make contact with the terminals. You can touch these terminals with your finger to verify they operate the thermostat. If so, it is working fine.

    The back of the face place has some material at the thee points that mates with those three male contacts. Check to insure they all appear clean and uniform...no grime build up on one that would interfere with or effect uniform applied force.

    When reattaching the face plate insure it is pushed flush to the thermostat body. When I reattached mine, at first it was not flush all the way around so that I had to push harder to reach the terminals. (You might want to verify "flushness" to start with....accidentally hitting the face plate could possibly cause a gap).

    Steve

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  5. 9 minutes ago, Patriot said:

    @SteveCr

    Did you install the ES on your Truma? If so I am interested in your results.

    Patriot🇺🇸

    Yes.

    Before installation I tried to run it on the Honda 2200i but it would not start up.....as expected.

    I installed the Easy Start (from the Dometic) on the Truma Aventa. I wired the ES, without any splices, into the Truma wires so that in the future I could remove the ES and easily restore the OEM wiring. You would not be able visually tell the ES had been installed.

    ((This was a little extra work .....when Oliver originally installed the ES into the Dometic they removed and spliced Dometic wiring. So, when I removed the ES, I had to rewire the Dometic with non-OEM wire. The Dometic works fine...just does not look OEM to the trained eye. I explained this to the person who bought the Dometic and they were fine.))

    Once installed, I had to relearn the ES. On my ES model this required removal of the cover and physically moving a connection jumper, once to reset the ES and again to relearn the Truma. New ES models have a bluetooth relearn feature. This was an easy procedure.

    I previously installed a 30amp RV receptacle under my home's entrance panel. I used this power source to start up and relearn the ES/Truma.

    Once I was satisfied everything was nominal, I switched the power source to the Honda 2200i. The Truma started up and ran with no problem.

    A big decision was where to locate the ES. The Aventa structure is a two piece tightly fitting molded foam. There are a couple of options without modifying the structure. I chose a forward location near the thermistor.

    The wiring diagram was provided by Micro-Air. If you buy a new ES, they will warranty the compressor for two years. I chose not to go this route since I had the older ES on hand and would install it myself.

    Material used:

    -2.5 feet of 14 awg wire (two insulation colors...5 feet total)

    - two wago type connectors (ideal brand from Home Depot actually)

    - two 1/4" spade male connectors

    - one 1/4" female/double male spade "piggy back" connector

    - four tie wraps to strain relief the wires & cable

    - Three cups black coffee

    Steve

     

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    54 minutes ago, Rivernerd said:

    How do you import images from the FXC Control app on your smart phone so you can post them on the forum?  I have not been able to figure out how to do it.

    If it won't post directly, then a work around I use is to copy the image into Microsoft Power Point. I can crop or perform other edits easily in PP. Next, choose/copy the edited image in PP and paste into this forum. You don't have to save the PP file.

    Another product such as Word, Excel or equivalent might work also, but I can edit in PP easy (I have an old 2007 version).

    Renegade Steve

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    Did you install the ES on your Truma? Would like to hear your results. 

    This image below is from the Xantrex 3000. The "grid" is powered from a Honda 2200i while running the Truma Aventa AC. Amazing numbers. Prior to ES installation the Aventa would not start up....afterwards no problem.

    I'm just sharing that folks that already have a generator that powered their Dometic absolutely do not have to shell out  $2,400 for a 3000w Honda generator (or $900 for HF Predator).

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    3 hours ago, Kansa said:

    Following this thread right now My issue isn’t the valve but the pipe leading to it I just noticed mine isn’t connected and doesn’t look like it was ever sealed… what should I use to glue this pipe on I am assuming that should have been done at factory but not sure.   

    Here is a black pipe coupling you can purchase at Lowes. This is routinely used for ABS connection repair...beats re-gluing.

    I believe Oliver uses these or something similar now anyway.

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  9. 25 minutes ago, Patriot said:

    Although I would like the ES or soft start, I was informed by Oliver Service that installing an easy start or soft start would void the Truma factory warranty and they won’t install it. We are having the Truma installed on May 8th. If I learn anything different I will post up.

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    Yes, Oliver and Truma both have said Truma will void the warranty if ES is installed. The Truma warranty is only two years and the ES can easily be installed yourself ..... almost plug and play.  Hopefully the Truma AC will not give any trouble...I know the ES will not cause any.

    I worked for Emerson Electric and Schneider Electric for 34 years. We routinely modified OEM devices to suit our design intent.  For my estimation, the ES/Truma installation is low risk.

    Modifying my F150's software....now that caused me to sweat. Voiding that warranty would have been painful....Truma, not so much. 

    Steve

     

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  10. 2021 LE2

    3 hours ago, Allen Lee Rohner said:

    After the AC swap, what are you doing with your old Dometic AC units?

     

    Sold my Dometic minus the Easy Start for $400 on Facebook Marketplace....took a couple of months.

    BTW.....a Honda 2200i will most definitely run the Truma with an installed Easy Start.

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  11. Yep, that is how I see it works also. Last year while bookdocking, my batteries were approaching 50% soc and Xantrex would not invert. Reading through the manual, I discovered the LBCO soft switch and adjusted the setting several tenths until Xantrex would invert. I was just careful and monitored the soc.

    I think the value of keeping the Xantrex LBCO at a higher setting is to prevent an unintended battery discharge.....leaving something on or not realizing you're drawing so many amps. It would be unpleasant to discover the soc at zero....might invoke a few frowns...or worse!

    You can experiment to discover the relationship of soc to LBCO readings on your system and then determine the LBCO to fit your comfort level.

    If inverting for an extended time, I would also carefully put my hands on battery/Xantrex/other cables to determine if there is a heat build up issue. That might help identify any loose or corroded connection. There can be a corrosive buildup on a connection that is not seen without disassembly for inspection.

    Steve

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  12. 2021 LE 2, lithium pkg, 3000w inverter

    Below are screen shots of the inverter under load of the microwave running. The microwave had no issues for several minutes.

    The second screen shot is the inverter settings you can use as a comparison to your settings....just to make sure. Battery low cutoff can be a potential issue that will shut down the inverter before you want.

    Steve

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  13. Ruger .177 Air Magnum

    Got this a few years ago from Gander Mountain as they were liquidating inventory. It is a nice break barrel rifle but cracks as loud as a 22 rim fire. So, I have to be careful shooting outdoors in my neighborhood. Using heavy pellets will slow it to subsonic....but still risks a visit from the local fuzz.

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  14. 38 minutes ago, John Welte said:

    There are six screws that hold the Truma AC cover that don't have any rubber washer or sealant.  The screws sit in a small cup indentation about an inch across so any water on the roof will leak inside.  That's the first area leakage.  Seems crazy not to have some rubber washer under the screw head.  The MaxxAir screws weren't sealed either.  It's still in the shop waiting for Oliver to give guidance on how it should be remedied.  Frustrated that a new trailer first had the gas leak, then this water leak.  Hope to have it fixed before 2024.

    John

    I'll check but I don't remember those cover mounting screws sealed on my unit either. I removed and reinstalled the cover. The Truma installer cautioned me to NOT use a power tool on those screws. The max torque is 1.6NM and he said a power tool will easily strip the screw anchors....which becomes a difficult repair.

    I don't believe any of those cover mounting screws are inside the "water tight square" (shown below). Outside of the "water tight square"....rain water enters maybe and condensation drains on the roof if there is no internal drain kit.

    Steve

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  15. 5 hours ago, Dave and Kimberly said:

    Roger... is it really necessary to be able to turn it on/off ?    My understanding is that it "goes to sleep" until you use the app on your phone, which then wakes it up again when it's time to use it.   Advantages for the Pro + (over the original model)  seem to be almost 3 times the battery (240mAh vs 620mAh), ability to run off of a micro USB port, and compatable to Apple Watch.   Other wise it seems that they both work and function exactly the same.

    I have my Level Mate mounted in the rear attic compartment near the TV switch outlet. I wanted to mount it with screws per the instructions but in a hidden area. It works good there. As far as battery life...I have replaced the original battery once in almost two years. I keep the unit on during trips and off while not on a trip. It does go to sleep.

    Steve

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  16. 8 hours ago, jim sroka said:

    Gald to hear you got a Truma installed . I made a appointment at the Elkhart Service Center back in when the install coupon can out for a March 13th install. Drove 5 hrs

    down on Sunday to make the 9am on Monday and backed my trailer into the garage and went to the waiting room. Now I filled out the forms Ii first sighted up confirmed my date (twice) . Twenty minutes later i was told they won't do the installs only Oliver will do when and is should call Oliver service. At 3:20pm that day i get a email me telling me they won't do the installs on Olivers The next day I get a email saying they are doing aftermarket installs on some Rvs. I understand they don't want to undercut the clients (Oliver) but what bad deal for me, 10 hrs of drive time and fuel burn for a sorry. They made no effort to correct the problem other then saying sorry. Glad you got your installed , I was told they only have done one in Fl. that must be you.

    Wow...my visit to the Lakeland service center went smoothly. They completed the install in about two hours.

    They planned to run new thermostat wires and install their thermostat for the Dometic heater. However, they ended up modifying the Dometic box and keeping the existing Dometic thermostat. Both the Truma ac and Dometic furnace work fine. I did have to reprogram the thermostat delay time to eliminate the dreaded clicking.

    The Truma installer mentioned the difficulty of running new wires in a double hull trailer led to his decision to reuse the Dometic components. Maybe they don't like modifying other OEM's components and given the low number of Ollies.......just punted retrofits to Oliver.

    As far as water leaks, they did not water test the installation. They explained their confidence with water tightness based on installation materials. He mentioned torque sequencing of the hold down bolts was important. He partially torqued hold down bolts before applying the final torque.

    Going back to the beginning......Initially I corresponded with Oliver to do the installation. At the time (Nov or so), Oliver was experimenting with the installation and was having to overcome roof flatness/AC level issues. Developing a mount platform was mentioned. Rather than wait on Oliver I took advantage of the Truma installation offer....and I guess it worked out.

    Time will tell.

    Steve

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  17. 7 hours ago, DaveandKarin said:

    Not a great combination, admitted. My wife and I are planning a trip from the Cincinnati area to Southern Utah (Brice, Moab, etc). Time frame is end of April through May. This wasn't planned month in advance so obviously the National and State Parks are booked. I'm seeking advice on where we might park the Ollie to stage trips into the parks and surrounding beautiful area.

    Thank you for any words of advice!

    Dave

     

    Planning sites like Hipcamp are great to find private land sites at ok cost. Below is an example of a small place we stayed just outside the gates of Monument Valley. It is the backyard of a Native American family.

    Around Moab we stayed on BLM campsites along the river....first come first serve....boondocking. I believe we paid $10/night.

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  18. 6 minutes ago, mossemi said:

    @SteveCr
     

    Thank you for answering my question!  So now I have more questions.  You may have already stated who did your installation or I may have forgotten who did it.  I’m guessing it was Truma in Orlando or Elkhart.  You have a 2021 LE2 which I assume came equipped with a Dometic A/C and the Dometic drain kit.  Did the Truma kit tie into the Dometic kit Oliver installed?  Thank you for your patience with my questions, but I will say that condensate draining onto the roof was/is more of a concern for me than the noise so many complain about.  And I think that’s why Baskin Robbins has so many flavors of ice cream, there’s something for everyone!

    Mossey

    Hello Mossey,

    The Truma service center in Lakeland Florida installed my Aventa Eco last December.

    It did replace the Dometic ac which had a Dometic drain kit.

    The Truma drain kit connected to the existing Oliver drain hose so that Truma drains the same as the original Dometic design.

    Water draining on the roof was a concern for me also....along with the noise.

    On low fan speed the Truma much much quieter.....about 60 decibels on my inaccurate iphone app.

    I jumped on the Truma installation discount and then ended up selling the Dometic (with the easy start removed) for $400.

    So I tell myself I came out ok but time will tell....one thing is for sure....won't miss the Dometic.

    Steve

     

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