John Welte

We're wrestling with the decision now. The 2023 will be higher. A guess when I talked to OTT was $4500 more. Part of the increased price will be offset by fewer months of paying for covered storage with electrical connection. The price for that here in our part of Oregon is about $250-350/month. My wife retires in December so with our weather, we figured we wouldn't really be able to use it much until April, 2023.

I was talking to Oliver yesterday as we don't need the trailer until March/April 2023 and asked the salesman (name withheld) about what he knew about the 2023 model. He is quite sure it will be a higher price. Maybe $4500 more. He doesn't know what changes are planned. 2022 had several changes. I have read here that many people don't like the present A/C due to noise. There was a mysterious A/C on a unit that someone determined was a Truma. I would guess that they are looking at changing the A/C. Just my guess. We're not sure if we want to order for this year and save $4500 or wait to get the 2023.

They accept absolutely no responsibility!

Thanks. I read the article also. I wonder how common this is. I definitely will stay away from that town. Maybe a database should be started to alert us all where we don't want to travel through. Just a thought.

Seems like a good idea. If the dump station is level (quite unlikely), what side of the rear of the truck should be raised with blocks and do you owners do that?

I thought the same thing. How is that done?

That is a good argument for getting the 20 lb bottles. My wife who is 69 can dead lift 205 pounds. She's trying for 245. Maybe she could take out the 30 lb without breaking a sweat.

How often do you need to take the 30 lb bottles out. Someone said that in some places (I think it was Vail) you can't pull the trailer up to the propane filling filling station and you need to remove the bottles for filling.

It's a very popular road to drive. I am not surprised that they have superchargers.

I wrestle with the idea that hauling a trailer around is bad for the environment, but I rationalize that over the years our average mpg has gone up as we get more fuel efficient vehicles. Is that a concern that's shared by others? We don't have any electric cars, only one ebike.

Sherry, usually just one other guy. No chase vehicle. We carry everything and camp mostly. Spring, 2019 was very wet from Missouri to New Brunswick so we moteled it there for the last half. I have met lots of other bike tourers from all over the world. A Dutch guy rode from Alaska to southern South America. Hearing his stories was a bit hair raising. With the Ollie I plan to bring bikes along and go on some Rails to Trails segments with my wife. Minnesota and New York have great ones. Missouri and Nebraska too.

"I have never dreamed of going across the US. I think I would wimp out after 2 weeks. 7-10 day rides are enough. Although I would like to start discovering some of the Rails to Trails as we we take our Oli across the nation." The first two weeks are the hardest unless you had time to train and get saddle time in. The first time from Seattle to Bar Harbor, Maine I did train for it. The Australian guy who planned our trip didn't have the chance. You just go shorter miles initially and get stronger. We started with 30 mile days but a month in were doing 70-90 miles on loaded bikes. Think of it as just a lot of daily bike rides and it's not so scary. Definitely, the Rails to Trails are great and I plan to explore more of those. We will order our Oli soon for March/April 2023 delivery.

I have been on lots of Rails to Trails. They're great. My favorite was the Central Lakes/Lake Wobegone in Minnesota. It's very well signed and paved. The Erie Canal trail in New York was great too. I will have to figure out a good way to bring my bike. Maybe time for a Brompton folding bike. The perfect number of bikes to own is N+1. I am a sucker for trestles and steam history too. Tunnels, not so much.

"How long is your upcoming tour? You must be pretty fit." We figure about two months. On the last two cross country trips, I averaged 55-56 miles/day carrying about 58 pounds of gear in panniers. I have mechanical disc brakes that work very well. We start with low miles initially then increase as we get more fit. Leaving San Diego, you start climbing almost immediately which isn't too great. Depending on terrain and wind, some days are in the 30+ range due to climbing. I had one day leaving Cut Bank, Montana going east where we did 126 miles. Thanks for the info on that road.

What is the grade? It looks like a great road to bicycle. I bicycled over Going to the Sun road in Glacier in 2017. We're starting from San Diego in April going to Boston. I hope to stop at Hohenwald on that bicycle tour.

I notice that many people have custom decals on the front. I like yours. Where do you get those?

Where did you get the tongue box? It looks like it doesn't overhang the tongue like the Oliver box.

"I carry two 8 gallon containers like THIS for extra water." How long is the hose that you need to transfer the water via the port? Two to three feet long? I think the shortest hose that I have seen is six feet long. Maybe you just cut the hose to the length you need.

"I have never had to jackknife any trailer to that extreme." Good point. I never have that much of an angle while backing up.

Very true. It must have been someone new at the company that just spelled Ollie wrong.

Less stress. Sounds good.

Hi all, I know we're only four days into 2022, but we will be ordering a trailer in June for March or April, 2023 delivery. My wife will finally retire at the end of this year and with her work schedule, we felt it was crazy to buy and store it for months until we can use it. Does anyone know what the 2023 will have that's different from a 2022, besides being more expensive? I was guessing that they might change to a Truma a/c, but it's only a wild guess. If anyone knows what's up their sleeve for future improvements I would like to know. Thanks.

"Our solar and two batteries have been plenty. All that to say that you should be good with either package. Mike" I haven't ordered yet, but I have decided on the lithium pro for us. I am aiming for March or April, 2023 delivery so have an e-mail in to Jason at Oliver to see when we need to order to get that delivery period.

I just hope that quality doesn't suffer due to the faster rate of production. We plan on getting our trailer in March, 2023. We are buying this trailer because of its quality.

I think it's just wording, not actual intent to have dealers. The present system of owners showing the trailers to interested people and a network of RV shops that they have worked with around the country to service the trailers seems to work for them. Looking at the number of trailers that they're able to build in the last couple years is further evidence that they are building to the demand. Just my opinion.