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The bathroom floor in my Oliver Elite squeaks and flexes, especially in the corners. I have been told by Cindy that the pan needs to be removed and reinstalled properly to rectify the problem. I can't get anyone to do this for me locally and since I live in Washington State it would be quite a trip back to Tennessee to have Jason take care of it as he has on three or four other trailers. Has anyone else been able to solve the problem working from the top of the pan? I am a little nervous about injecting foam for fear that it might make the problem worse. Putting weight on the squeaks seems to help quite a bit. The only way to do this that I can come up with would be to use toggle clamps to pull things together but they might not be too visually attractive.

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We’re quite a drive from Hohenwald too so having a reliable local RV maintainer was something I worked on early. Fortunately, Bugeyedriver is a neighbor and had found a good local shop which I’ve used. I’m certain he would be able to work on an issue like your shower. I don’t have any specific advice on how to fix your shower floor, although it doesn’t sound too complicated. I’d recommend finding a local RV maintenance shop who should be able to fix this. It also seems like this was discussed a while back. I’ll do a search to see if I can find the thread. Mike

 

OK, did a search and didn’t find any specific instructions, but found that Steve Landrum (Scubarx) replaced a cracked shower floor so he might have some advice. Mike

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One of our forum members makes mahogany shower mats that might help with noise issue until you figure out if it’s a problem or not. See this post

https://olivertraveltrailers.com/topic/shower-mat-production-starts-next-week/#post-173535.

 

I purchased a teak mat from teakworks4u.com before Foy started making them and I think it distributes my weight more effectively.

Mike


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My shower pan leaked and water wound up under the mat in the closet. I have been meaning to do a write up on my repair but it sounds like you need help now. I ordered a can of ASI 0240 Adhesive Cleaner/Remover

https://www.americansealantsinc.com/adhesivecleanerandremover/

and 2 tubes of ASI 335 sealant

https://www.americansealantsinc.com/asi-335-neutral-cure-silicone-sealantadhesive/

I didn’t need that much sealant but from past experience I wanted to have a 2nd tube on hand just in case. I obtained several plastic razor blades

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/titan-5120/paint---body-repair-16614/body-repair-16510/body---trim-tools-25197/razor-blades-scrapers-17948/1c24653634cf/titan-scraper-blades/12038/4753744?pos=17

and a holder

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/titan-5120/paint---body-repair-16614/body-repair-16510/body---trim-tools-25197/razor-blades-scrapers-17948/1c24653634cf/titan-scraper/12031/4753743?pos=22

at O’Reilly’s Auto Parts. I removed all of the sealant around the shower pan so that the only thing still attached to the shower pan was the drain. Scrape away as much of the old sealant as you can using whatever tools you can find but use tools that do not scratch the fiberglass walls or the shower pan.

(To be continued)


Bill and Martha

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I can help you. I started a lengthy write up but after spending several minutes writing and inserting links this POS software lost my post. If someone can find it and restore it I will finish my original write up. In the meantime here is the short story:

 

I have removed all of the sealant around my shower pan and resealed it without having to completely remove the pan. After removing all of the sealant I placed a tractor front end weight in the shower pan to pre-load it before resealing it. This pulled the edges away from the wall to allow more caulk into the gap. The caulk applied at the factory was smoothed too thin and the flexing of the shower pan caused the gap to open between the shower wall and pan and allowed water to leak down the wall between the shower and closet. I had water under the mat in the closet. After my repair I have not had any more water in the closet. I realize your problem is a squeaky shower pan instead of a leak but I believe you will have to do as I have done to fix your problem.

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Bill and Martha

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Photos showing caulk removed. Note that the tractor weight is in place when these pictures were made. The weight has a towel under it and is covered with a towel.

 

 

 

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Tractor weight in shower floor. This weight is probably 100 lbs.

 

 

 

 

 

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Bill and Martha

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2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax

 

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I apologize for this poorly documented repair but I had already started a detailed write up only to have it vanish.

 

Work slowly and use the plastic razor blades and other plastic tools to remove the old sealant. I ordered 1 can of the ASI 0240 was very impressed with the ASI 0240 cleaner/remover. I ordered 2 tubes of the ASI 335. You’ll only need a small amount but get 2 tubes in case one is bad. Remove all of the old caulk using whatever combination of plastic tools work. I didn’t spray the ASI 0240 directly on the surfaces but instead sprayed it on a rag and wiped it on the sealant to be removed. I used rubbing alcohol very sparingly for the final wipe down prior to applying the ASI 335. Apply the sealant by pushing it ahead of the nozzle and force it into the gap. Quickly smooth it with your finger but do not get it too thin. The folks at the factory remove too much of the sealant and it only “bridges” the gap instead of filling the gap and leaving a bead or fillet to provide a proper seal. The thin bridge will not properly seal the shower wall/pan gap. I can not stress this enough.

 

When you step on the pan the bottom flexes down and causes the edges to pull inward slightly. By placing weight in the pan prior to resealing you open that gap up slightly to hopefully allow more sealant into the gap. Use at least 100 lbs. More would be better. Let the sealant cure for a couple of days before removing the pre-load weight.


Bill and Martha

2018 LEII Hull 313

2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax

 

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I give up. I just wasted another 30 minutes of writing only to have it vanish.


Bill and Martha

2018 LEII Hull 313

2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax

 

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A tip on writing complicated/long posts. I always write in a word processor or note pad and get it like I want it. Then copy and paste. Haven’t lost any yet.

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The bathroom floor in our new Olly squeaks and flexes too... I thought that's just what they did. Are they supposed to be solid/firm/quiet like the rest of the floor?


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Mine has never been what you might call solid - like the rest of the flooring. But, it does not rattle, squeak or even whisper to me. The caulking is still just like the day I bought it.

Bill


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Our floor has always squeaked and flexed somewhat. The sealant looks fine, I believe the floor is just under engineered. It needs more material in the support structure. I don't worry about it though, just is what it is.

 


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Those of you who have shower pans that squeak and flex, check under the black mat in your closet and see if you have or have had water there. I found water under ours and traced it to a crack in the caulk between the shower pan and wall. The crack was not easily visible when no one was standing on the pan but when weight was applied to the pan the edges flexed in slightly and the crack opened up. We keep the nose of our camper slightly elevated so the water ran back against the inside of the wall under the shower door then ran towards the closet and came through this hole in the bottom corner of the closet

 

 

 

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Bill and Martha

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2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax

 

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Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful, detailed responses to my question regarding the squeaking and flexing bathroom floor in my Oliver. The pictures were great and your ideas are certainly worth considering - things I hadn't thought of before. I will definitely give your suggestions a try. This forum provides a great service to all of us who are perplexed by certain problems and challenges owning a travel trailer can sometimes present.

 

Kathy

 

 

 

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