Lithium ...or not?

[Galway Girl]

Just FYI here's my explanation of our Lithionics Upgrade ...may be useful for those reading this thread.

 

https://4-ever-hitched.com/ggs-blog/f/lithium-battery-upgrade

 

Craig - Hull 505 - Galway Girl

 

[PJYarnall]

My apologies for not responding sooner! 

This is an amazing community and I am overwhelmed by the number of responses!  I am leaning towards committing to the Pro Lithium package as the Oliver, while not our first RV, is likely our last.  Besides better off grid capability I think it may increase its value when it goes on the market someday in the future.

[Galway Girl]

Anyone wondering the difference between the GUTS of Battleborn vs. Lithionics may want  to watch this from the Fit RV.

A teardown that compares the GTX3 Lithionics Battery to the Battleborns.

 

 

[snakeriveridaho]

Interesting video, thanks for posting the link!

Kirk

[Liana]

On 3/15/2022 at 2:47 PM, ChrisMI said:

Ideally BB will have their BF deal again

BB told me that the batteries go on sale twice a year:  summer and Black Friday.

[carnivore]

So how does one find out when in the summer the BBs are on sale?

[SeaDawg]

I'd say check their website frequently.  

A quick search of our forum showed battleborns on sale August and early September last year. 

They also had a 3 day blem sale last summer, June 25-27.

[Mike and Carol]

Agree with Sherry, check the web site every week or so.  When I got my third Battle Born I had been checking their web site weekly for a couple of months.  Mike

[johnwen]

On 3/17/2022 at 4:39 PM, Galway Girl said:

Just FYI here's my explanation of our Lithionics Upgrade ...may be useful for those reading this thread.

Thanks for your write-up, GG 🙂 Very helpful to me for whenever I upgrade.

[ChrisMI]

I don’t think we’ll see the $675 again during the sale. BB recently increased the price by $75 on the 100 amp versions. My guess is $750 during the blemished sale…

[carnivore]

I'll be checking...thanks

 

[CRM]

5 hours ago, ChrisMI said:

I don’t think we’ll see the $675 again during the sale. BB recently increased the price by $75 on the 100 amp versions. My guess is $750 during the blemished sale…

I hope they find a way to reduce their prices... Good quality Chinese battery prices keep coming down. A friend of mine recently purchased (2) Ampere Time 300ah batteries for just over 1k each.

[SeaDawg]

2 hours ago, CRM said:

I hope they find a way to reduce their prices... Good quality Chinese battery prices keep coming down. A friend of mine recently purchased (2) Ampere Time 300ah batteries for just over 1k each.

I'm not sure that's a fair comparison,  but it's obviously a great price, for those who want an entry level solution. I  think Will Prowse tore those down, and found a few flaws, like no low temp charging sensor in the bms. I'd Google it. Ok if you always camp in warm climates, maybe. With caveats.

Renogy had a series of lifepo4 on sale this week, and I didn't post it, because it was only a 2000 cycle battety. I think older tech. $500 for 100 ah. Solid company. But you have to acknowledge what you're buying.  

Fwiw, I do think battery prices will likely continue to drop. As has solar. It's all a gamble, but if we ever swap to lifepo4, we'll go with a company with a warranty,  like battleborn,  or build our own. 

Just my opinion.  We've certainly been known to take a risk for a price savings, and my opinions are subject to change  with research. 

 

 

[CRM]

18 hours ago, SeaDawg said:

I'm not sure that's a fair comparison,  but it's obviously a great price, for those who want an entry level solution. I  think Will Prowse tore those down, and found a few flaws, like no low temp charging sensor in the bms. I'd Google it. Ok if you always camp in warm climates, maybe. With caveats.

Renogy had a series of lifepo4 on sale this week, and I didn't post it, because it was only a 2000 cycle battety. I think older tech. $500 for 100 ah. Solid company. But you have to acknowledge what you're buying.  

 

 

 

Yeah, he went into it knowing that they had no low temp charge sensor, but he already had battery heat pad and battery temp sensor wired to his charge controller so that wasn't an issue to him. I'll be watching closely how they work out. Have good AGM's right now, but looking to upgrade to LiFePO4 and adding solar in the next year or so.

[routlaw]

I'm having a hard time believing a few mili ohms of resistance is enough to get excited about let alone make a difference in terms of real heat build up. And even it did make a minute amount of difference the price spread is way beyond the ROI IMHO. Of course I'm willing to be proven wrong but the video above did nothing to convince me of spending that much more on a battery. 

Attaching a couple of videos below comparing the Battle Born vs the SOK at about half the price.

 

And here is another review from Will Prowse