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- January 28, 2017 at 6:28 am #44017
Mr. BugBite, EE PE (not sanitary engineer) asks:
- Do you need to pressure regulate fresh water rinse to the black water tank?
~ Mrs. BB, posting secretaryJanuary 28, 2017 at 8:06 am #44019
Mike and CarolModerator@mike-and-carol
I do not. I have a Y fitting that I hook to the campground faucet. One side has a pressure regulator that goes to the city water connection on the trailer with a white drinking water hose. The other side is a black hose with a back flow preventer that goes to the black tank flush. I don’t think the back flow preventer is necessary because there’s one in the trailer. It’s more for appearances and “just in case”. The black side is off until I need to flush.
Mike and Carol Thompson | Fair Oaks Ranch, TX
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1 user thanked author for this post.January 28, 2017 at 8:17 am #44020
I’m guessing that the basic answer is “probably no”, but… I’ve been told that there is a back flow preventer in the line in the Oliver. Given that at some campgrounds (or elsewhere for that matter) the water pressure can be rather high and this could damage even that back flow preventer or perhaps the short line into the black tank. So, for what its worth, since I have the regulator anyway I say why not use it (and like Mike and Carol) I double up on the back flow preventer – just in case (or, another I got it so why not use it). In addition, this help protect the hose I’m using to connect to the camper.
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1 user thanked author for this post.January 28, 2017 at 8:32 am #44021
Interesting question: wouldn’t think pressure would be needed to regulate, unless you walk away and forget it’s on and the gates are closed. But wouldn’t you want to regulate the rest of the water you use? I would use a separate hose, not a white one, save white for drinking water. That said you could put a backflow preventer and then the regulator on the pedestal faucet, then a wye with shutoffs built in. Then when not flushing tank, you could water the dog. White hose to drinking. Then I would put the green hose on the other outlet. A backflow is supposed to stop any cross contamination. Most campgrounds should have the backflow already installed but some don’t. (Most are designed to be screwed on and then the screw breaks, locking it on. I remove the screw first and replace with a set screw or leave off for travel.) I also have a requlator with a pressure gauge on it. Hopefully I don’t forget it someplace, but because sombody forgot it was how I got it. I used to order that ‘stuff’ from King’s Supply, but assume other places have them. I would not try to save a few pennies by going with a plastic regulator, the brass last longer, and work better. I always travel with them in sandwich bags or Tupperware. We like to keep that ‘stuff’ clean. It’s a lot simpler than it sounds, just got to remember to take it off the pedistal, put the steps and jacks up, and get the wife on board…
1 user thanked author for this post.January 28, 2017 at 8:53 am #44022
Ah! Thank you Mike, Carol, and Bill.
This is a great group! So helpful!
Just read both of yall’s replies to the “sanitary engineer.”
We have a Y and a good pressure regulator.
Oliver is supposed to supply one with the camper so there is the second one.
Mr. B is going to ask Jason this on our Hollow Campground run through to be sure.
- Come to think of it… does Jason usually do the courtesy procedure check and tutorials or does someone else too at the camp adventure?
So we can conclude…
As a fail safe good idea to double down and use both regulators then … sounds good. Don’t want the check valve to malfunction later. One never knows. Better safe than sorry.
The S.A. has purchased one of those long coiled hoses to rinse black water tank only.
Will store in this reserved black water hose in the stinky – slinky bumper compartment until being called into service.
We are in unchartered territory on sewage removal and clean up.
[(Now portal potty clean out Mr. B is an expert – Ha! #1 no TP – that is where the wipes came in to bag up and dispose).
His ole woman found it necessary to hide the porta potty under the pull out bed behind a curtain for middle of the night mmm use. Olde woman as not to gross out Mr. B was considerate. Campground facilities great for 2.]
We did use the grey water hose and white drinking hose too on our Popup with a pressure regulator Y.
I will cut and paste and send answers to the beloved’s email.
~ Mrs. Bug Bite, ole woman
P.S. There is a snow advisory for the Cumberland Plateau. Woke up this AM to 29 degrees east of Hole-in-Wall.
Gee BOB we wish we could come rescue you!January 28, 2017 at 9:07 am #44023
Ah! Canoe, our resident sanitary engineer!
Was hoping you would pick up on this.
The Y and the pressure regulator/dial are both brass. We found drilling a very small hole in the dial keeps it from fogging up Thus far haven’t cross-threaded either one of them.
- So what kind of pressure regulator does Oliver supply? Brass? Figure no dial, cheaper of course for them right?
We have developed 2 snapping Tupperware containers that look like tackle boxes with multi compartments. Our roving parts department full of gadgets. FIL’s saying was, “a place for everything and everything in its place.” It’s ingrained now in the son’s psyche.
Cheers folks. Hope someone answers the mattress thread. Anyone?
~ Mrs. BB, designated research assistantJanuary 28, 2017 at 9:23 am #44026
Don’t let a little snow bother you. You now have a 4 season camper. Gone are the canvas walls that only let in the cold air when the wind blows or the sun shines. Gone is the 5 gallon P bucket with the pool noodle on top (for comfort). We have been at the southern end of the Blue Ridge Parkway, Sunday night about 4:30 in April, temps dropped from 40 to 28. The snow started to get serious. That end of the parkway has 180 degree turns, no guardrails. Pull over, turn on the furnace, pop in a dvd, make some popcorn. All is right with the world…January 28, 2017 at 9:53 am #44027
I hear you!
We are practically neighbors? Or are you somewhere else and just visit?
On the other side of the Smoky Mtns. from you if you hail from NC.
Blue Ridge Parkway stunningly beautiful. Bet it’s a real pipper going around the hairpins pulling.
Maybe we can meet sometime at a mini-rally.
You ever been to Big South Fork?
Great camping and just as scenically spectacular as the Smokys without all the tourists and Yankees.
Where do go in NC to camp?
Where are you from Ashville?
Used to go over to the Hamfest in NC.
Anything good at Maggie Valley? Hendersonville? Great golfing there. Hey O you out there monitoring?
Another good place is along the Cherohala Skyway either side NC or Tellico Plains, TN.
Indian Boundary is very clean and nice. Beautiful like the Smokys were. Problem: every time we were at Indian it rained.
Now gee just park in the camper and play cards will be sweet!
Now if it were up to me (and it isn’t) I would rescue BOB right away. Type A Mr. would have a canipshun fit wringing hands. Have learned after 34 1/2 yrs to remain Type B and just smile (spit and mumble) out of his sight.
As my wonderful MIL now in Heaven said… “What is it worth?” Miss her so much! I know she is in Heaven … we joked all the time… Gin, you WILL go to Heaven! Right after the pronouncement of FIL, manufacturing engineer’s usual razzle dazzle.
I go by the 99% rule here. He is right 99% of the time. (Annoyingly he is too) I do get an occasional 1%. Path of least resistance! The upside of this rule is I am not responsible for much and it’s so sweet when the 1% kicks in. Gee what a good idea! Then of course good idea becomes his later. OK fine. I certainly can live with that! <smirk>
~ BB3 in the pecking order here.January 28, 2017 at 10:37 am #44031
Yankee? Well, we do live in the southern end of Maine, so I don’t know. I suspect so. We don’t eat grits, don’t understand the word y’all, and of course we don’t talk with an accent. We like to travel the less traveled paths. The food is better, the people are nicer. One interstate looks like any other.
We went back through some of the NC/TN country side that we went through in our military days. Has that world changed. Roads are now paved. The bars are off the schoolhouse windows. The liquor bottles have labels on them. I no longer dread the bango music.
We will look up the places you suggest and maybe put on our to do list. Thank you. Our bucket list is Prince Edward Island?
I hesitate to sign my name on here. I am afraid you will think your camper is talking to you. Also thinking you could put my picture on your camper, so people would recognise it?
BobJanuary 28, 2017 at 11:42 am #44034
Mr. BOB you qualify as probably one of the Yankeeist Yankees on here I’ll bet that is realllly up there!
We are still the friendliness people you may remember. The surrounds the most stunning anywhere in the USA.
Too many half-backers have discovered area.
The Yankees (mostly from OH MI PA and IN and New Yark) get too hot in FL and make their way back up stopping here. Can’t make themselves go back to the rust belt’s snow.
You can always get along great with the natives IF:
You have a last name we can pronounce.
The second question answered must be what church you attend.
AND you never, ever, never say, “Up north we do it this way.”
You will be told right straight HWY 75 going North is still open.
We have evolved to using just Mason Jars and no longer use a XXX Jug.
Most of the roads are paved. We haven’t evolved that far yet.
Lemme tell you we have seen about every square inch of the TN Valley and Cumberland Plateau looking for property to park BOB.
We have been dreaming of a BOB for a very long time now. Have been saving up for years.
We can have a BOB AND property after 33 years.
Maybe now that we have BOB (almost God willing) his home will appear.
Perhaps we have worked this backwards.
Tennessee is like most of the Southeast.
You can have a mansion and right next door is a trailer straight out of pickers.
Hard to find a great place with nice neighbors, enough land, and a decent house package in one.
I would settle for land and put up a Baby Moose and our 4 stall steel building.
1 bay we can put BOB in and live then build the cabin.
Here is the Baby Moose of our dreams on Natural Elements
Yes! A stereotypical mountain cabin home.
I will be sure to tell BOB he has a namesake 🙂
BOB and Moose’s MawJanuary 28, 2017 at 2:01 pm #44044
I like the farmers porch and stone fireplace. I might get rid of the dormers and upstairs rooms. They invite visitors that want to stay. Visitors don’t dust either. Stalls for animals mean you have to leave a campsite to feed and water them. Now if the stalls are for toys,so be it. Tractor, ATV, boat,and camper…that is four stalls…January 28, 2017 at 3:17 pm #44046
BOB my son,
I love the wrap all around porch.
Thinking of a coupla cows, coupla horses, a goat or two and some chickens.
Thinking worst case scenario.
Room for others to build.
A kin fellowship compound.
Ole people commune. HA!
Lived on a farm as a teen.
86 acres owned as far as we could see.
Pond and creek.
Only draw back was I couldn’t drive.
Parents wouldn’t let me take the car.
Had to beg my friends to come rescue me.
I did ride my huge 17 hands tall TN Walker, Toby everywhere.
Smooth like a rockin’ chair.
Best canter than any other breed.
Did get to use a wide tire scooter.
This time get a wide track or two wheelers.
Life is good on a farm. Freedom.
Fall back position is take BOB and hide in a National Forest.
Plenty of places to ruff it. Just have to make fast friends with the Moonshiners.
Live close to the ones on the TV.
~MawJanuary 28, 2017 at 6:38 pm #44053
John E DaviesParticipant@john-e-davies
“What’s The Difference From One Product to Another?
Assuming they all work as designed, why choose one over another? The answer comes down to flow. The bigger the regulator, the more water it will pass. Our models are all lead-free as they come from Watts or Fairview. Always choose a regulator with a flow rating that is as much as you can use. The most an RV can use is 3-3.5 gpm.”
There is a lot of great info here, toward the bottom: … https://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/PR.htm
Since you don’t want to damage the small amount of plumbing between the outside fitting and the tank, I would definitely use a regulator. But one that flowed well would be better than the cheap restrictive ones: you want as much pressure and volume as possible, within safety limits.
If you are rinsing from the top, though the big hole, use an unregulated “wide open” garden hose and, of course, goggles. And keep your mouth closed…..
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1 user thanked author for this post.January 28, 2017 at 6:56 pm #44056
Thank you very much for this John!
We are going with the Y and 2 regulators.
Better safe than sorry.
Certainly will read the link material.
We appreciate you.
Mr. and Mrs. BugBiteJanuary 28, 2017 at 9:41 pm #44060
Perhaps there is something that I am missing here but you normally would not be flushing your black tank unless you were dumping your black tank. Unless you are camping in a spot that has full hook ups, (meaning “including sewer”) and you have been there long enough to fill up your black tank, there would not be a need to have a hose connected to your black flush connection. It really seems like you guys are overthinking the situation. What am I missing? My answer to the OP’s original question is “no.”
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