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Yes, yes and yes... precisely my thinking, but also saving myself quite a bit of time with a 2023+ model that has a lot of this already plumbed/wired is also a consideration, i.e. get a solid base and spend my time making better for our needs rather than getting it to where it needs to be just for a base case. Definitely weighing all that now though. I've read through the Mod's section (maybe first 7-8 pages so far) and searched as well... saw a lot of your work and other's - great stuff and much appreciated. Kept thinking/wanted to reply (but old thread and hadn't joined here yet)... I installed the Redarc BMS 30 on my current moto/toy trailer. The BMS 30 (Amp) is an AC, DC and MPPT charger all in one unit, selectable for all battery types. I've been very happy with it. And nice on hauling water... Unfortunately I don't have the luxury/capacity of my Ram Cummins(es) any more - I've had 4 HD Rams, a '97 2500 gasser, '04 3500 Cummins, '10 3500 Cummins, then went backward (for pre ULSD/DEF/Emission stuff, and much better mpg) to an early '06 2500 Cummins. Unfortunately my wife gets car sick in them, even after a top of the line Carli suspension upgrade on the '06. But I shouldn't have an issue hauling an extra 15 gallons now where needed.

All pretty much inline with my current understanding and thank you. So it has been added, perhaps on late 2024+ builds - and also kinda wondering for the minimum size gen needed should we need in the SW desert. But I'm also familiar with DIY soft start addition on Dometic units - but had read here that Truma wouldn't honor warranty on DIY soft start installs.

A/C is typically a massive draw on power. but as you say, when charged it will start (w/o soft start). How long it can run on battery is another matter. Need a lot of battery (Amp hours) to run more constantly, or a sufficient generator. My hope would be to be able to run off battery for an hour or so off battery (and a day full of sun) before going to sleep. Some A/C units will trip a 3k inverter on fully charged batteries w/o a soft start. Soft start would also allow a smaller (<3k watt) generator to get A/C fired up. Many factors in those equations, thanks for sharing your experience.

Re my late model specific questions, spoke with Sales at Oliver and their SS sink manufacturer stopped making them, they make their own counters and so, the molded sink. Also per Oliver, On Truma A/C soft start, with the 3k inverter, the Truma doesn't need a soft start. Good to know. Between Oliver staff and this forum - very helpful, great community.

Thank you. Yeah, we're open to used well/lightly... thinking there was about the black tank and *if possible* creating more fresh water capacity (if the tank were ever used for its purpose - nope, no amount of sanitation would I try to convert it to fresh. Also, don't (and won't) do Facebook myself, but my wife recently joined the group - there are some options. Perhaps we'll end up circling back that direction. And yes, I've got a 3800w inverter gen for our moto camper - runs the A/C, tire warmers and air compressor when at the track.

Thanks and completely agree - would never use black tank for fresh water if it's not a safe plastic but from I've read here, have not seen anything definitive on that. If you know of something definitive on Black tank plastic Oliver uses please point me in that direction (link). Personally not inclined to use it for urine and with mostly boondocking out West with 2 dogs, fresh water would be bigger priority than more gray capacity. Would be nice if it could be done, safely. With your 640ah maybe being overkill - how many days out (I know there's other factors/appliance habits too), and do you just have the 400W solar or do you have more? That's why I was thinking 390 would be fine to start and see what we really do need (if any).

Thank you, and yes, some of my questions seem to be manufacturer specific, latest models which I haven't seen a lot of here on the forum thus far. I wasn't sure about reaching out to them with the new dealer network - not sure how that works now... We actually visited our local dealer and while friendly, isn't that knowledgable about the options and recent model year changes. Reached out to them directly, online, just now.

First off, thank you to all the contributors here - the passion for OTT is very apparent (even contagious, perhaps), the knowledge, creativity and sound advise here on the forum is tremendous. My wife was actually the one that discovered OTT recently and I've been the researcher since. I've been hauling trailers for more than 30 years - horses, boats, etc and for the past 8 years our enclosed cargo trailer that I converted from bare bones into a toy hauler. I used to spend a lot of time traveling around the country roadracing motorcycles so I added (built out myself) insulation, windows, a toy hauler style bed in the rear that raises to the ceiling (and can convert to a couch), A/C, Maxxfan, shore power, 12v system, solar, cabinets, etc. That current rig has served us well but now being a bit later in life we're looking for a bit more luxury and aesthetics as well as something that's a true 4 season camper. We definitely prefer boondocking and so when my wife found Oliver... We've been able to see 3 now in person and it has only inspired us further. Our wishlist would include more battery, likely more solar for those batteries, a composting toilet (I prefer Ogo, wife says Nature's Head), 2 5/16 coupler (current trailer has, plan to keep that for motos) and the wife prefers Storm interior colors. However, given lead time on a new build (and today's cost), we'd like to enjoy it some still this winter, so we're now in the midst of a Nationwide search for current LEII Twin Platinum inventory. Which gets me to my questions... '24/'25 differences: anything major that's new/changed? As far as I can tell, later '24 and current '25 inventory have fiber-granite molded sinks (which we do not care for). Is that an across the board change? Or are/were stainless sinks an option? Really don't like that aesthetic and I also saw an owner here (don't recall name) who upgraded the kitchen sink and faucet (looks great btw)... assuming I could cut out the sink(s)? Albeit a pretty dusty/messy job, and replace if needed (I have found a couple that have the SS sinks, those appear to be earlier '24 builds). Owners with dogs - how has the PU Leather held up? Did Truma A/C soft start become standard in '24 and later Platinum/Lithium *Pro* builds? Anyone done a cassette toilet? That's what I did in our current trailer, but given layout of OTT, definitely limited on model/capacity going that route. I don't see pricing discussed here much, or at all really... Given this is Oliver's forum, understandable and so feel free to decline to comment, but wife keeps asking me, how much below MSRP is common? Current search is focusing on remaining '24 builds as those are being priced quite a bit lower than the '25's I'm seeing. Since we'd be converting to compost toilet, prefer new as maybe we'll be the first (?) to use blank tank for more fresh water. The DIY upgrade work doesn't give me any pause as I've already got the tools, most of the know-how and a buddy with a large shop. Could live with the Pro electrical/batteries and solar for 6-12 months - figure out exactly what we need there (if any) and I'd welcome the opportunity to become more intimate with all the systems through the process - prefer to do my own maintenance on just about everything anyway. We're excited - hopefully it all works out to bring a new Oliver home soon.