Bryan in NC

Something like that 😉 Seriously though, both were something I thought was lacking in the Oliver when I was search for a trailer.

My wife and I don't pick up our trailer until March, but I have to agree that a larger refrigerator would be high on my list. And, of course, this would necessitate a larger black tank.

Our trailer won't be ready until March, so I feel a little awkward answering, but we found the online documentation, especially the electrical layout section in the owners manual, useful. The 2023 docs are not there yet, but I'm guessing they'll be the same/close to 2022. And, as you said, a quick call or email to Oliver would give you a definitive answer. Phil answered a bunch of questions for us before and after we placed our deposit. https://olivertraveltrailers.com/oliver-university/

Incredible @bugeyedriver. Our goal of visiting all of the US national parks and as many of the forests as possible, seems trivial now. What a testament you, @SeaDawg, and others have written!

Thanks @dewdev! We did look at couple of Escapes that were very close in size to the LE2 and still decided we wanted a smaller trailer. The twin bed floor plan is nice, but having a smaller and lighter trailer is more important to us right now.

Thanks @SeaDawg and WOW, a 2008 Elite with 150K miles! What memories you must have! I agree with all the points you made. Sondra and I sort of qualify as minimalists. Sort of, because we'd still be in a tent if we were true minimalists 😂

Thanks @Katjo! I definitely agree with the quality difference between Escape and Oliver. We'll be okay with a single axle. I've towed them in the past and they were difficult to back up in the beginning, but it should come back to me quickly.

Thanks neighbor!

Thanks! Having to buy from a dealership was also one of our reasons for not getting a Bigfoot. The others being the size and age of the used units we saw.

Thanks Mike!

That's a cool receiver John! I'll keep it in mind if we decide to upsize down the road. And, yes, boondocking and rustic campgrounds are the way we prefer to camp.

Thank you @John E Davies. I left in 79 when I joined the army, but I've been back twice, in 86 and 97. The somewhat isolated house I grew up in was still there in 97, but was surrounded by a much larger neighborhood. I heard there's even a commuter rail between Mukilteo and Seattle now. It was lumber mills and Boeing when I left. Now it's a bedroom community. We were going to look at the LE2 as well, but the timing with the owners didn't work and we had already seen the Escape 19 and 21C, the latter being about the same size as the LE2, and decided it would be more of a challenge backing it up our narrow, curved, uphill driveway and squeezing it next to the house. We've done some camping in our friends and family's RVs, but this will be our foray into owning one.

Hello, my wife Sondra and I joined the forum last month. After reading through many posts, we reach out to a couple of you directly to ask specific questions about your rigs, but, now that we have placed our order, we felt it was a good time to introduce ourselves to the community. As you can tell from my display name, we live in NC. I’m an NC native, who grew up in Mukilteo, WA, and Sondra is from Tinton Falls, NJ. We’ve been looking for a retirement RV for a couple of years and knew from the start we wanted something small, reliable, and reasonably four season capable. Our journey will probably sound familiar. We started with class Bs and smaller Cs, but quickly moved to truck campers then even more quickly to molded fiberglass ones. We really like Northern Lite and Bigfoot, but their weight meant we would likely need a 1 ton dually, which we didn’t want. That led us to molded fiberglass travel trailers and we narrowed that down to Bigfoot, Escape, and Oliver. We really liked how Escape allows for a great deal of customization. We were able to view a couple of them and until last month, we were certain that’s what we were going to buy. But, before placing an order with Escape, we wanted to at least take a look at the Elite. @Brian and Maria graciously opened their trailer to us and we knew we had found our retirement RV. Oliver being a family owned business and being relatively close to home were also big for us. Our Elite will be ready this March and we are looking forward to meeting you on the road. I guess we need to put our reservations in for Hiawassee 🙂