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  1. This was the End of the Road for the bicycles. You begin and you end. Same with Junkyards of trailers and tow vehicles. The End of the Road. Junkyards are littered with Wrong Turns, Mistaken Road for a Tree and other Human Bean confusion.
  2. You cannot get LOST on the Prairie, only confused. "Where am I" is not what the family wants to hear. They are already terrified. OK? North is where it always has been. Same with the other directions. Find Landmarks and know what direction they are from where you are presently. Have whoever is following the map follow the road. You will also see it on the Tow Vehicles GPS... sometimes. Your clearance is better than most of ALL AIrstreams. We have a 3 inch lift to make up for the low clearances. It is the Length that gets you into trouble. Dragging the rear... is for tired hikers and for low clearance trailers. Olivers... you will have to work at dragging the bumper. Travel in twos. Safety in good company, Too much company, three or more... too many different likes and dislikes. You cannot fly fish in the desert. You cannot swim in the Yellowstone River... unless you want to drown in Montana. Those kinds of others... Have company that likes to do what you are doing. We have not found anyone... once and we never see them again. 🙂 It is hard to describe. OK? Planning? Nope. Not at all. We do not know where we will be going or getting lost at. RV Parks for those owners who like RV Parks and tourism. We have our trailer to Explore and create an Adventure, if we planned or did not plan to discover unknown 'ends of the road'. Next time going in the Rocky Mountains region. No Plans. Plenty of DeLorme Atlases. Food, Water, a couple good hats in the event one blows off the cliff, and comfortable sandals, shoes or boots. I climb with my sturdy Sandals for decades. My mountain boots had their purpose...now they hold the floor down in the closet. Not inspired, yet? That tells me you are not interested. That is good for your safety and comfort. This is not for everyone. Maybe less than 15% of trailer owners. Crowds? Only if you are giving away Free Flathead Cherry Pie along the Yellowstone River... I am only showing you those photos to discourage some from trying this. If you saw only the 'End of the Trail 'photographs... I would have to find a small place to camp, as everyone and their ATVs and idling Generators... it is NOT the End of the Road. It is the Bye Bye beginning. You can do this. Well, maybe after a few mistakes, but the best is out there for everyone. Take a deep breath... if you coughed... maybe the dust will not do you well.
  3. I have the second half with the top of page 55. The post shows one name... and there are three other trail names as many used parts of one trail and then departed to Utah, California or Oregon. We do this area often, but not enough to know everything. That is for you to do... and post.
  4. Maps are very useful. Books about areas you would like to explore can be more interesting, IF you have the Map. An example: Report upon the Reconnaissance of Northwestern Wyoming including Yellowstone National Park made in the Summer of 1873 by William A. Jones Zzzzzzz Please read the one part of a page of text before dozing off. You will begin to catch onto WHY we like maps and books... well, I do. Nancy has no choice. 🙂 Some of those involved, since this was a Military operation. General P. H. Sheridan. General W. T. Sherman. Officials of the War Department and other now, historical figures. This book is 331 pages and has over 50 drawn maps of Routes that Indian Guides brought this group into the Yellowstone. Well known by local Indians, but a mystery to many that heard about the area... but not going in the area with all of the Indians known to Summer Camp. What does this have to do with OLIVER Trailers? A Lot. You can get a REAL Boondocking Adventure by finding a modern Reprint of this book on the Internet. My original printed in 1875 by the Government Printing Office was made of the cheapest paper for text and worse for the thinner than a postage stamp foldout map routes to get into the Yellowstone on trails, created by Cheyenne and Sioux Indians, among others. Rather people were afraid... to go into Yellowstone. This one page of text at the mid section appears to be in Idaho Territory. I did not want to spoil everything by using landmarks given and leave it up to you. The Western USA, especially Wyoming has had Trappers and Wagon Trains passing through since the early 19th Century. When you get to Oregon Buttes... on a Wyoming Map... there are Cutoffs... short cuts that were used after the earlier routes. YOU can find them. They are marked. Setup the Oliver at a campsite and follow the two rut Jeep trails. You are living history. Much like Little Big Man... Dustin Hoffman... "Living Indian". Is this... easy? Of course it is NOT Easy. If it was easy, I would not be telling you. The Adventure begins at the time you lock the door to your Home. The rest is up to you, your choices of maps and inexpensive books written the original explorers from the 1830's to Wyoming Statehood in 1890. I no longer give out the locations we camp, as there are Websites that now take the information, and offer it on their sites to everyone to see. Just this one time, I am pointing you to the State of Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, South Dakota, Colorado, Utah and Idaho are among the most explored by the US Government in the 1860's to 1890's. With maps, but you have to find these books. If I could find them... anyone can. We expect to see some Olivers out west. We are the ones with the two Blue Heelers. (The text page does not transfer well. It is on page 54 'Indian Trails'. We will see once I post this.)
  5. Wyoming had few paved roads in the 1920's. When a Tow Vehicle broke down... it was left in the Red Desert. If you ran out of gasoline, you could hire one or two horses to pull you into the closest town. You often camped in a tent along side these early roads. We have found some of these early campsites in Central Nevada and they would leave bottles and cans as a 'gift to those' who own an Oliver and live in luxury beyond... these Pioneers autos and homes! Enjoy and to to places you have been afraid of visiting or exploring. These people did it... and only a few had to walk. Some were pushed into ravines to keep erosion from doing any more damage. Great for parts if you knew what kind of vehicle it may have been. This one obviously did not... start. We tried. It had wooden door frames. These early roads were Wagon Trails, Cattle Trails or two rut roads to Yellowstone. Wagons were either pushed into Ravines, or burned. Vehicles abandoned were scavenged for parts for years.
  6. We will be taking our 2019 Oliver II out this Spring. Our first year experimenting... with Getting TO the FINDING End of the Road... Oliver Style. I spent two days using nearly a half of a bottle of Rejex Polymer to get DINGO the Oliver II ready to find the Beginning of the Road to get to the End of the Road. But return home, unlike some of those trailers that just did not make it back. Where are your photographs of the END? Maybe just the beginning and then turned around... End?
  7. In the Black Hills of South Dakota... Bicycles can be peddled only so far and the trail DEAD ENDS. 🙂 In Wyoming, if used or not, these Trailers have reached the End of the Road. In Wyoming individuals tend to be located at the End of the Road. Some are being lived within. ...and in the Rocky Mountains... the End of the Road is protected from getting there. So Sad 😞 .
  8. The Western USA, Rocky Mountain States have many End of the Road opportunities. Here are some examples. When you find ONE... mark it on your MAP. These places are becoming scarce. If YOU encounter The End of the Road... lay back and make yourself comfortable. When rested... turn around and go the direction you CAME to the End of the Road. Ahhhh. Wyoming has many EOR's as an example. These photos are from New Mexico, Wyoming, Nevada, Utah and Nebraska. Ahhhhh. Once you get there... it is the END. Lay back and enjoy Peace and Quiet. Although... there are also others... like yourself... who are also Looking for the End of the Road. Enjoy this year... if possible. 🙂
  9. Some other examples of maps and maps. Good sources for FREE maps... local library sales and free book shelves. Also University and College Libraries get paper maps and they will throw them away or put them into an Annual Book Sale. A ten year or one year old Geological Map works for us. A twenty year old map of the National Forest... is just perfect. Many roads were built in the late 1890's to 1950 for access for lumbering, mining, grazing access... and so on. Technology is great...until the battery charge is used up, or just decides to not cooperate. We do not need High Tech Maps and GPS to find a spot to set up our Trailer Campsite. Open area... great. Trees, maybe. Rock outcrops, possibly can fit. I scanned other examples. There are maps for everything, every place and for multiple reasons. Many are made obsolete to those using hand held computer and software. Great... for ME. I carry maps on our trips. They are cheap... if you do not buy them from a Mountain Climbing Shop. Get them used at Goodwill and other similar places. A box for $5 of your area. Give duplicates away. United States Geological Survey Quadrangles can be found new and used for nothing. They are obsolete to Engineers today. You and I are Boondockers. I am not looking for where natural gas lines are located... today. Mountains do not move. Roads get improved over the years. Lakes have shorelines that change... but the roads move when necessary. New dirt roads are added over the years... you will see it. ...and often, Boondockers are finding campsites by accident. Good campsites are NOT on a map, unless a National Forest Campsite designed for... Tent camping with a picnic table. I scanned some other maps. Even local towns have maps of places to see and visit for FREE. The BLM has Free Maps for ATV trails. If you get lost often... maybe have your spouse read the map to you. The passenger is the best 'Guide'. Imagination... is not a good way to find a way IN or OUT of the National Forest. 🙂 Go to your Library. ASK if they have MAPS FOR SALE or FREE. They want to get rid of them. University Libraries have thousands of maps donated that will end up in the Dumpster. (Ask me how I would know. 🙂 )
  10. DeLorme Atlas and Gazetteer: Topographic Maps of States I am a Geologist. We do have GPS. We use a wrist GPS to mark where we park our Trailer, our Tow Vehicle when hiking to relocate where we parked and even can Store locations we like. (Garmin Forerunner GPS... over 15 years old and still works.) We do not need an expensive or inexpensive large system with details we do not need. The wrist watch GPS units now are even more sophisticated. We like ours. We park, get a GPS location marked and go. When we want to return to the vehicle, we know the direction to hike, how far away we are. Often not a straight line, as we are in a Canyon, on the other side of a Mountain. Never been lost WITH the GPS watch. We DID get Disorientated ONCE in the wilderness of the Gila National Forest over 15 years ago. I had a Compass... but when we hiked West to the North/South dirt road... it was do we go South or North. We went South and in less than two miles... found our Airstream Trailer. Whew.... First chance... found the Garmin. I advise this BEFORE getting any fancy hand held system. I keep DeLorme Atlas & Gazetteer of All Western States we camp. Often they are on Sale. Newer ones are often improved with more detail than older editions. We have the older and when they get worn, get a newer Edition, but keep both. We MARK ALL OF OUR CAMPSITES ON OUR DeLORME ATLASES. Date, elevation and if we liked or did not like the campsite. Yes... some of you want the most up to date, sophisticated electronics. Good. But... not us. Once you are in the Back Country, roads on a screen or map are NOT passable... or are better... or have been closed for years due to disrepair. I like paper maps of areas we frequently. I can look at Colorado, Wyoming and Utah Maps at the SAME TIME. Ohhhh Weeeee. Nancy follows the map while I am towing the trailer, Off the Grid Boondocking. We change ADD road number changes, or turns that are not on the map, make notations, put an X where we camped, information of how, when, where, what and why we were there. Paper is good for us. It worked on maps of the Oregon Trail and today... if you get lost... check the map, your compass, the Sun direction.... and enjoy your Exploring. We do... and these are cheap Tour Guides! The DeLorme Atlas has about 16 inch x 11 inch pages. Colored as to State, BLM, National Forest, Private... property. But, often private property can be in any of these areas by Homesteaders in the 19th Century. But you have more information than you need. Sure... a large computer screen downloaded with detail may serve you well... we do not need it. I have scanned some of the Wyoming Atlas. Check a copy out at a store that offers them. Price shop on the Internet. Abebooks.com has booksellers selling maps for big discounts if used or new older editions. We carry ALL the Western States we think we may be traveling. If it is raining in the mountains of Wyoming, we head to the deserts of Utah...
  11. TALL people... be aware that the Airstream has a higher ceiling than the Oliver II. I am 72 inches + in the morning, and 72 inches - in the evening. So we are dealing with fractions of an INCH. When your head hits things... a fraction of an inch makes a BIG DIFFERENCE. Olivers have LESS Headroom than an Airstream. Period... and I know. I used a tape measure in the 2019 Oliver II and the 2019 27 foot Airstream. I saw a new discussion about the Oliver I having the possibility of changes for 2022. Some have suggested maybe the Height may be increased. Now, I do not want to embarrass anyone having the EXTRA HEIGTH in the Airstream. But here are the measurements: Oliver center of aisle: 78 inches. Airstream center of aisle: 78 1/2" So... if you need MORE clearance walking inside an Oliver or an Airstream... take your shoes off. Maybe gain that 1/2 inch and now more head clearance. 🙂
  12. After all the discussion, I discovered that by WD40 and Oil I was able to clean up the 2" Coupler Assembly. The previous owner said he was told to Oil and then Don't Oil... so he Did not Oil and the mechanism was all 'gummed up'. I am an Oiler and I Grease my Ball and moving parts when towing. With elbow grease, and a fine steel wool... the Coupler SNAPS And the Collar slides over with no effort. I am GREASING the Ball and Oiling the Bulldog. Every time we are detached, I wipe everything down, clean the coupler and all Hitch Parts that need grease. Has worked since 2006 on Airstreams... and as of today... the Bulldog will SNAP at anyone who gets close to it. Grrrrr.
  13. Spent $1.87 at Lowes for a Nickel 'Ethan Pull' and installed it above the black standard handle and slide... drilling through the white frame. Two holes, 3 inches apart and the screws go through from the back side. About 8 minutes, after getting the drill bit selected, holes level and done. Now we have A CUSTOM OLIVER... and the $1.87 and my $0 Labor will make it so much desirable from all of the others, except Mike and Carols Custom Oliver. Your magnet is also a good idea. Where did you find that? Now you have a Custom Custom Oliver. Nut and Bolt or adhesive? Other Oliver Owner's must have come up with some great simple ideas. The previous owner of our Oliver has some of these self vacuum hangers in good spots. If those are 'custom'... ding ding ding... Custom, Custom Oliver. 🙂 I was pleased to discover the screen door has an Aluminum Frame and not plastic.
  14. Mike and Carol's handle will work for us. Airstream has had the handle since 2006, my first. Chrome. When the door is latched open, the handle is better than grabbing in the open area to pull shut. White for the Oliver. Next time in town, getting Upgrade #2. More photos of Your Upgrades... The small changes are what make our Olivers... Home Sweet Home on the road. 🙂
  15. Our Pup Blue Heeler picked up NW of Albuquerque, New Mexico last Summer. We were Boondocking in New Mexico and knew about some Blue Heeler pups, old enough to look at. We were collecting Chalcedony Agates in New Mexico and the timing was perfect. She, Cody, now can enter and exit, both, the Oliver and the Airstream. Our first Boondocking Trip will be with the Oliver. The Airstream already had the protection for the bottom and upper screens. Our next photo... will be with the Oliver. Yep... we are loading all of the permanent items that stay in the Oliver. Mike and Carol... took a look and a screen door handle will help closing the screen door when camped. Have some hardware in the garage to check out. Just getting the 'little things' take care of when convenient.
  16. We have two Blue Heelers. The youngest just turned one year old. To protect the door screen from an energetic Blue Heeler, we installed a screen door protection. Lowe's cost was $12.31 from the $13.68 price with a Military Service Discount. The sheet measured 12 inches x 24 inches and at least 3 inches will be trimmed. You can have it fit loose or arch out a little by just 1/8 inch more trimmed. Just under 3 inches was trimmed off to fit the lower door screen area. If you cut it a little long, this Screen will arch outward. I liked that in the event this is pushed, it will not contact the screen. This does not inhibit air coming in or out. There already is a groove on the inside of the screen door that the cut Screen, with a bit of arching, fits snug. You will easily see it. Oliver may sell a protective Screen that is pre cut. I do not know. The Sheet has a pattern and stainless steel. There are also aluminum Sheet Patterns that are nicer, but cost more and not as easy to use a sheet metal clipper to trim. We can always remove it at will if this one does not work out. The project took less than 10 minutes.
  17. I owe John E. Davies an apology. I found a post by Raspy that took me to a post "How To Upgrade the Bulldog Coupler and Anderson Hitch to 2 5/16 Inch". It was posted under Ollie Modifications. I made a post not too long ago and now easier to find being currently listed. Wonderful, well photographed sequence and followups to questions. Spent hours running through the Forums... and with John Davies and the hardware needed by Minnesota Oli... I will get some hands on experience to get this conversion completed. Thank you and I apologize for my Ignorance not to have done a post by post search earlier. Now... I am exhausted.
  18. John.... this was the information I had been looking for. You had already done a comprehensive review and installation of the Bulldog Coupler and Hitch. for the 2 5/16" change. Sorry for being a pest... this will take some thought and planning to explain the drilling of the Coupler, using my 2 inch unit as an example.
  19. Yes... I am out as well. Minnesota Oli gave me all the information that he used and works. I need no lectures. Just for information I needed for MY Needs. About four days owning an Oliver, it may be time to check out.
  20. As I had said earlier, the Ball is excessively worn and like SeaDawg said may need some... help seating the coupler onto the ball. I mentioned that the previous owner pushed it with his hand, but he kicked it and it set the ball. I used a hard rubber mallet to 'set the ball into the coupler' the first hour I owned the Oliver. I do not want to use the current or new Bulldog 2 inch. As I also said, the ball cone is frozen into the aluminum. I tried, after WD40 and still no luck. I do not have a press and from the looks at the aluminum housing, it has nicks and I filed some of the bottom of the Ball cone to remove an impact, from being dropped. The previous owner had a 40 pound or so Rock Tamer attached to the 2 inch shank... and I do not need to use it. Get on with Life? I thought this was to discuss options and get advice... not psychological help. I like Minnesota Oli's option. I also read that Bulldog said Not to Grease the Ball... and someone said To Grease the Ball.... on the Forum. I am fully aware of working on trailers. I have been greasing my Ball and Equalizer Hitch on three Airstreams. Some use wax paper, some use nothing... I grease. I know how to clean the Coupler mechanism. I do not let my hitches Rust or Corrode. I wipe everything down after use and during use when camped. Monday I will be ordering parts, if possible. I do appreciate help, but my introduction was for a 2 5/16 Ball and Coupler setup. Not a 2 inch, but now I know the larger assembly must exist, from Minnesota Oli. Once done... if anyone is curious as to the effort needed to get this done, ask and I would be more than happy to show photographs on MY PROJECT in progress.
  21. "I don't have a clue how you will mount the Equalizer brackets, you will have to cut away some of the doghouse to access the outer frame members. That will be unsightly and will definitely affect resale value in a negative way. I don't know how much a new one would cost, if the future buyer doesn't like your holes, but I know it would be a whole lot more expensive than a brand new Andersen hitch. Getting the doghouse off requires opening up the bath vanity hatch, to gain access to the nuts inside, that hold the back of it to the hull." A previous option that mentioned the Equalizer Weight Distribution Bars and the Sway Control of the Equalizer Hitch. Nowhere did I say I wanted to use the Equalizer Hitch, nor components to the Anderson Bulldog system... etc. I have 120 posts. Not opinions. I was told over and over that 16 Inch LT Michelins, versus the 15 inch Goodyear Tires, would DAMAGE my Airstream because the tires are too stiff. Much like this discussion /debate/options my choice was 16 inch the first week I purchased an Airstream with six lug Sendel wheel 0 offest and 16 Michelin Tires. Today... many Airstream owners have gone to 16 inch Michelins and Airstream in the High End 30 foot+ use 16 inch Michelin tires. Anyone following this Thread notices it has EVOLVED. I do not personally find the Bulldog Hitch, at first, comfortable. I am only familiar with my Airstream system for three lengths since 2006. Much like Bicycles. I care less about what anyone is using. I am not concerned, but if I needed a bicycle... it would go the same question and response system I have used always. I decided on finding an Oliver II to compare with my Airstream experience. I am keeping my 27 foot 2019 Airstream as it is NOW perfect after tweaking it. Now with a 2019 Oliver II... I have already began to 'tweak' the Oliver... gently... (the exterior Dometic area) and tweaked the Spare Tire mounting. If someone does not agree with me, express it and I will not be upset, get frustrated, take my marbles and leave, etc.. These are ongoing, living discussions from experiences from different sources. When I finalize my Anderson Bulldog system... I will explain what I did and why. Some members think I have owned an Oliver for a decade... maybe three days now. So far... my wife loves the Interior layout and myself... Getting the EXTERIOR up to what I am comfortable. Sixteen inch Michelin tires and Sendel Wheels.... Ahhhhh. Wonderful. Now the HITCH. For those who understand, thank you for being patient. For those who do not understand... post anyways. I WILL eventually do it MY WAY. Worked for 72 years... and maybe 18 more if I use my own instincts.
  22. This was to provoke thought. Not a Survey that has any meaning or solves anything. This is not a Serious Discussion. Probably if the Moderator's prefer, delete this Thread. The Moon keeps the same face towards the Earth. Only one side of the Moon is seen from the Earth. Better yet... "A Day on Earth would last only six to twelve hours without the Moon."
  23. Ahhhh Yes... Some find it that THEIR CHOICE's are always the BEST for everyone. As more information comes, all is taken under consideration. I ask questions when ideas conflict. With Minnesota Oli's post I have TWO options and find his option and choice to fit more into my original 2 5/16 inch ball and coupler. Had I all the options and the owner's reasoning in front of me at one time... that would be the best. Minnesota Oli's works for him and me. Now to sit back and get comfortable with the idea.
  24. I had looked at a Bulldog 028462 Trailer Coupler for 2 5/16 in Ball, Tongue Mount Width 3 inch... for $109.24, 12,500# (tow Two Olivers at the same time). Big Balls and Couplers are stronger... in my opinion, even if it is overkill, it harms nothing. ? It is shown UNDIRLLED. Any commments why, not?
  25. I also have to add John Davies... and others giving me suggestions to work with... Thank you if I missed others.
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