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  1. The majority of trailer owners who own a trailer capable of Boondocking off the grid... have no idea how to find or locate a Boondocking Site. Western States were once defined as being west of the 100th Meridian. These States have the majority of 'Public Lands'. These are Bureau of Land Management (BLM), National Forest System (NFS), State Lands (usually School Section 16 in each 36 Section square miles and of course National Parks, Monuments, Historical Sites, etc. Boondockers looking for Public Lands have some very good references available. The most detailed are those sold by th
  2. KenB... driven Land Cruisers since 1978. Missed the 'jeep' styles as I could not afford them while at the University... so had a 1967 Bronco 4x4... which today is a 'collector's item'. Wow. Do I feel... old. Still have our 2008 LC and going strong. The straight six LC engines... the heads were prone to crack. Although easy to remove, have it repaired, gave both heads a valve job and sold it with 248,000 miles some time later. A bit under powered for towing, as well. Bill and Bev were towing with a white F-150. They said it pulled the Oliver with ease. Sometimes trailer ow
  3. In our two Airstreams... nylon rope to secure drawers, clothes closet, wood dowels set into grooves to keep sliding overhead cabinets from opening and dumping, bathroom sliding doors secured with dowels to prevent toilet paper rolls escaping and unrolling... although the 23 foot Safari had a 'push button' on top to secure the tall and heavy pantry goods cabinet. The majority of trailers have 'house hinges'. The vibrations of the road will 'unscrew' the small threaded hardware and mayhem can be profound. Look at it this way. An earthquake not long ago in SE California was 7.1 magni
  4. My words appear to be 'kind', but are the honest opinion of a travel trailer owner. Had my opinion been less than honest about my observations of the Oliver II, I would have mentioned them. But... you and I agree. It is just a matter tweaking an excellent trailer. Time will be the judge. One name that came up in our discussions was John E. Davis. I recall. He is the gadfly that gets Oliver Owners to think. Often, most owners prefer to talk about issues, and few want to step forward and present issues in a way that improvements can and possibly be made. Good to hear that others
  5. An interesting thing happened at nearly 10,000 feet elevation, cold, wet and drizzling... I spotted an Elite II Oliver southeast of Ouray, Colorado, just off of Highway 550. (Highway 550 to Ouray and keep going south is the ULTIMATE towing experience. Up the Pass or, down.) Bill and Bev were the perfect hosts when a stranger asked through a window if... 'can I look at the exterior of your Oliver'? A voice within said... "sure". After owning and Boondocking with a 23 foot and a 25 foot Airstream over 13 years, one becomes interested in what other trailers are out there that are co
  6. Congratulations! I am anxious to hear more about your comparison shopping with an Airstream. After 12 years Off the Grid Boondocking with two Airstreams, a 23 foot and currently a 25 foot, we are waiting to see our first Oliver in the Rocky Mountain West. After eight years we had 'Boondocked' the 23 foot Airstream to handle National Forest and BLM roads and wash board road vibrations with hardware upgrades ourselves. This is currently being done to our 2014- 25 foot Airstream. This time 'piano hinges' to cabinet doors that use hinges that vibrate loose on mountain roads. You have
  7. Great Boondocking... sort of... experiences to offer. If everything else fails, a compass and good map can get you started in the right direction. We were a bit disappointed with Canyon de Chelly. After Chaco Canyon... and Mesa Verde it is tough to stand out. Several great 'Indian Sites' in New Mexico worth visiting. Also... so many Pit Houses at some Boondocking locations in New Mexico, you are walking among ruins and may not notice you are in the National Forest and not a National Park! This one photo is a bit tight for an 8 foot wide trailer. An Oliver would have no problem a
  8. Overland... great photographs. If this does not convert several RV Campground campers for this Summer... nothing will. Campsite photographs are welcomed. Some additional incentives for those who are on the... edge... of going OTG this year.
  9. Thank you Randy. Raspy. This is exactly why I would like to compare trailers. Mike and Carol. Thank you, also. Sorry to say I do not tow my trailer over boulder fields and up to mountain tops for a view at 14,120 feet. That is more for tent campers, and I have done that in Colorado. Not with a trailer in tow. It is the... length... of a trailer that will get you into trouble. I call it the 'bumper drag queen' driving off a Service Station lot, which is most often mistake made by new trailer owners... or crossing a rut in the road and not understand the possible danger
  10. Imagine your Oliver and our Airstream traveling together in... Wyoming, for instance. No National Park campground. No reservations. Leave whenever you want. No commercial camp host. No neighbors, but those you are traveling with. Camp outside a National Park on BLM open space, for a view that only a few have attempted. Or... just imagine YOU and your Oliver doing what, maybe 80% of trailer owners, do not dare to attempt. I know this is true among Airstream owners, a large percentage would never consider dirt, dust, gravel and unpaved travel as a proper way to travel. It takes one s
  11. The Oliver and Airstream have a lot in common. The Oliver may have an advantage with the straight axles, versus the Airstream torsion suspension. You would be surprised to see where 28 foot and 30 Airstreams camp. After 12 years of OTG towing Airstreams, I just might know what I am talking about. Twenty three foot and 25 foot Airstreams. The Tandem Axles of an Oliver may make OTG towing some extra clearance and flexible on uneven changes from level to double track road to campsites. If you have not watched a 'torsion axle Airstream' cross a stream bed... you may learn a few things.
  12. No challenge of brands. This is a way for the Airstream and the Oliver to compare how we both do Off the Grid Boondocking. You may want to read WHY only one on one and why someone would have to be qualified. Anyone, towing a nearly 25 foot long trailer on Forest Service and BLM roads, off the beaten path, the other trailer owner had better know what they are doing and be experienced. The kind of places we camp, most trailer owners have not and most likely would not have any experience traveling. This is not to teach nor train another trailer owner. The Oliver is as capable a trail
  13. Sorry, my mistake. The Elite II is 23 feet 6 inches. I measured our '25 foot' Airstream is 23 feet 4 inches from front aluminum to back aluminum. The 25 foot is front of hitch to rear bumper, which is not 'living space'. I want to see an Elite II and the two of us can compare.
  14. (Airstream 25 foot and the Oliver II 23 feet 6 inches- my mistake) This is my opportunity to meet the proud owners of an Elite II in the Western USA, Off the Grid Boondocking experience. Only two 25 foot trailers. An Airstream and an Oliver. This is Off the Grid trailer camping. No definite camp sites, although areas we have explored. No facilities at most sites. Just myself, my wife and two Blue Heelers and a couple owning an Oliver II in the Wilds of the Western Rocky Mountain, Great Basin areas. There is a very big... caveat. We are very experienced Off the Grid tent and
  15. Our plans for Boondocking are by the moment and opportunity. Off the Grid Boondocking experiences are an accident, not a plan! There are open grasslands in the high country in National Forests for those who vacation away from the crowds. Commercial campsites in Wyoming want many multiples of the standard fare for three day minimums and the same with other areas within this band of observation on this arc. We... are going dry camping with our trailer and with luck, we will not miss this celestial event of the... decade, or is it the century? And please... do not wash your Oliver bef
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