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My wife and I are definitely interested in the larger refrigerator. Actually that mock-up in the photo is how I imagined it. We eat a lot of fresh produce and need that extra space, especially as we will be off-grid away from stores. As for the height of the microwave, it seems a similar height to residential over the range microwaves. Fast forward... Now I see Oliver released the 2023 updates for the EII and now switched to the 12v compressor. Very pleased with that. Also the new Truma Aventa a/c option is a great option too. Again, I am pleased. I also see they are redesigning the EI. I expect they will also "evolve" the EII in a couple of years. Let's see. It's a great product, so evolution not revolution! As for the survey, would be nice if Oliver did a survey to include potential owners. They can filter the data when analyzing. Data from real-world use Ollie owners is great, to supplement with potential owner thoughts is critical too.

To answer your question: Looking at the price increase, unfortunately the whole package does not look so palatable to me now! But I really love the Oliver. My reasons: Price increases without any new features or improvements (from what I can see). Also the whole RV experience is getting less desirable as so many people jumped in. Infrastructure at camp grounds is not keeping up. Cost of tow vehicle then the gas milage with towing $$$ Who am I? I do not own a Oliver or have any experience with other RVs. Oliver looked like the best option to remove headaches with water leaks + 4-season option was appealing (in case we needed it). I am fortunate to have worked hard all my life and be in a good position. But I still do the math and wonder how far I can travel by other means on $150+k (tow vehicle + Oliver). Not to mentioned the fuel, insurance, maintenance costs (+$10/yr?).

Very nice Don, I am excited to hear about your adventures with this beauty. I am always impressed with the quality and innovation coming out of Australia. Question: Is it a true 4-season camper? Thought I saw a video showing the tank (at least the gray) was outside? Also, is the battery box insulated for cold weather to protect those Lithiums? Many thanks and please post more as your adventure unfolds! Cheers Paul

Agree the Bigfoot floorpan is very nice (shame about their interior design choices). I tried to just do a design that slightly "reimagined" or stretched the OEII. I am guessing the double-hull fiberglass Ollie has some design limitations with curves etc. But sure, a blank sheet of paper is fun.

I hear you about the +1.5 feet! But I think 28'-30' is a whole different market. 25ft is the sweet spot in my extremely limited real world (but deep dive YouTube 🤣) experience. Wet bath seems to scare some people, so a dry bath seems natural move in a larger Ollie. Although I love all the creative ways people have screened-off the toilet in the Ollie.

Oh, I'd also add a window over the kitchen sink area too

Just "playing" in the evening ...😀 For the shower door, I would use one of those nifty euro style translucent roll-around doors that glide on tracks top and bottom. I think nu-Camp Avia used one in their shower.

I am sure this has been discussed, but here is my "reimagined" OEIII.... "Middle-age spread" 🤣 Max 25' (+1.5' over OEII) and maybe + 6 inches wider. Keeping the same basic layout: Moving the closet to center. Converting original closet to shower space (dry bath). Moving fridge to center. Moving Pantry to prior fridge space. Picture for attention! Goals included!

I would definitely like to see the older style absorption refrigerator switched to a newer compressor refrigerator. Even if in the same slot, it would be larger and certainly a welcome improvement; faster cooling, less susceptible to off-level situations. They are extremely energy efficient these days. Also a quieter A/C unit. Larger Fresh water tank. Ok to keep the same size trailer.

Phew 😅 I agree, doubt Oliver will push the size, seems like they want to stay a niche company, which is actually a good thing. Once they get too big, things go wrong; staff turnover then quality drops, then the dreaded "Thor" affect! I like that they have increased the Lithium offerings + the composting toilet is great.. don't see that much. Hopefully I will arrange a Ollie customer visit soon, so able to relate to this thread better. Enjoy the ride and do what makes you happy 😀

Great topic and ideas for improvement. Thanks for sending to Oliver, I really hope they listen, it seems you put a lot of thought into it from real-world experience. So here are my views. But I will add the following: I don't own an Oliver yet, but planning to buy one soon. Never been in one yet either. My comments below are purely from YouTube/FB etc, so don't roast me 🤣 Most I what I observed is on your very comprehensive list - just writing down the things that jumped out at me: Need bigger fresh water tank, perhaps option to ditch/convert blank tank to fresh where the composting toilet is optioned. Need a bigger refrigerator and definitely a compressor style one. Switch to a MPTT solar controller. More solar, perhaps a fold-out option (not sure of that is feasible). Door pockets like nu-camp trailers. Lot's of people complain the a/c unit is too loud - I see you have that covered above, but can it be ducted too? Automatic leveling jacks. Reverse the blackout window blind and screen; blackout should start from bottom to add some privacy, while still letting some light from the top. Sonos speaker option for audiophiles. Hinge top cabinets from top and add a gas strut. Also love the idea of a slightly larger Elite III, definitely wider, but not too much longer. Dry-bath would be great, somewhere to lounge would be nice, not just the bed option. For example, flip-up leg extenders on dinette seating. Thanks again Paul