John and Debbie

Thanks Susan, that was very helpful. My wife has a very organized kitchen and everything has its own spot. Your comments made a lot of sense and hopefully will have an impact on whether she sees an Oliver like I do. She takes a while to make a decision. I think it would be a very comfortable trailer. The price is the stumbling block. We're both nearing 70 so I imagine that at best we have 15 years to use it then sell it. I just don't want to own a trailer that will fall apart during that time. Her first choice is an R-Pod, but when I looked at reviews of those, they had a lot of problems. "But, they're cute!" I don't want cute, I want dependable. Thanks for your message.

That looks very nice! I didn't know you could have Oliver add that extension. I see that your table didn't sacrifice the basement door. Do you have a picture of the underside of that table and how it attaches to the trailer? What is the dimension of the table when it's open? Are those the KTT mattresses? I see that you secure the drawers with a rod. As I understand it, the drawers can now be pushed to close in a more locked fashion. They're a soft close now with a final push to lock them in. Lots of questions, but you have a great set up that addresses the issues my wife has brought up. Thanks!

Thanks Pam. We live in Beaverton. My wife may retire in May or December of 2022. I know, weird choices, but she has reasons for both. She will be 70 in December, 2022. She is having a problem with the price even though our financial planner said we could afford it. She just mentioned meal prep issues so I wanted to get opinions on that. Thanks for your comments. Personally, I want to order it now knowing that it takes nearly a year to get it.

So I had "the talk" with my wife after our financial planner meeting yesterday who said it was possible, and my wife said she's not sure the counter space is adequate for making meals. She thinks the two stove top burners that are perpendicular to the alley with the hinged cover also might be a problem. I had thought the Lagun table might be a solution for meal prep and eating, but from what I have read, people find the table heavy, not that large, and hard to store. My question is has anyone wished there was more room for meal prep or is that done outside at the picnic table. On the plus side, after reading the R-Pod forum posts and watching review videos, I have convinced her that we don't want an R-Pod. The warranty on the seals on the R-Pod is 90 days! People who buy those swap out the supplied tires, the faucet, and caulk everything immediately. That's not what I want to do.

Can your garage opening be enlarged? It would require a new garage door. I would want any trailer to be garaged here in the Pacific Northwest.

That's my thinking too. I figure if I buy an Oliver for $80k and use it for ten years, I could possibly sell it for $40 k. If I buy a stick built trailer for $40k, I can maybe get only a few thousand for it. The ownership cost would be about the same, but I would have a trailer that wouldn't be as nice for those ten years.

I am doing the same thing considering the Oliver. The cost is one stumbling block for my wife, but I just don't want to get some sub-par trailer. I have seen two OTT. I am very sold on them.

Someone posted that employees don't buy their trailers. First, I thought, whoa! Why not? Is that a red flag?! I wrote to Jason Lindsey of Oliver Trailers to ask why. The employees have access to an Oliver whenever they want to go camping so no need to buy. That's a nice perk of working there. I hope to order an Elite Legacy II very soon. Jason said that if I place an order today, delivery would be in July, so about 11 months from order date to delivery.

What is the issue with insects and the Truma? I am getting my options list figured out and I have Truma on my wish list.

You have been towing an Ollie for years. That's a great endorsement. Thanks.

Thanks for your comments. You covered everything! I hear that they aren't available at the moment. I hope to order our Oliver soon and realize that it won't be ready for ten months or more. I will have time to dial in everything before the build.

I think our group is pretty special, actually. A lot of intelligent, curious, and caring individuals. I read that the people who own Olivers are a close knit group and from what I have seen so far that seem to be the case.

So much to learn. I wonder if the buyers of cheap stick built trailers are so knowledgable about the precautions and safety measures needed.

Thanks. Everyone here is very helpful.

Is there a way to weigh the tongue weight? I picture some type of scale where you put the tongue on it.

I think I need the Anderson hitch on my 2017 Ford Expedition from what I have read so far. If I had a tv like your current one I would be OK. Thanks for your comments.

I watched a video of a trailer that was in sway and it caused a roll over of both the tv and the tt. I keep reading how great the Oliver tows. Has anyone had issues with sway with their Oliver? My wife wants an R-Pod but I read that the water tanks are not placed in the best position. I see so many huge trailers being pulled by what seems small tv's. This forum has a lot of knowledgeable people so you probably have had experiences with other tt brands before you saw the light and bit the bullet and bought your Oliver.

2) Tongue Wt. of EII - ours ranged from a low of 580lbs (full propane, full food, but empty water. no tongue box load) to as high as 730lbs one time where I had too much front loaded gear including the tongue box full of gear How do you measure your tongue weight?

Thanks. I thought that I had responded earlier to you, but being a newbie, I thought I would respond again. Our Expedition has the factory max towing so your experience was good to read. We may find that the Expedition won't have adequate power. I was hoping that we wouldn't need to change tv as I do like the vehicle. I can live with a vehicle having to work harder as long as it doesn't ruin it, but I don't want to get halfway up a hill and find out it can't make it up.

OK. One decision down. It looks like it's worth it for both rain and sun. Thanks. Hopefully the double hull design keeps the inside cooler than other stick built or single layer builds.

I can see that as a great reason to have one. We live in the Pacific Northwest where it rains a lot, except now! No rain for about two months now

The trailer window shades have dual shades, so maybe it's not necessary. I am not sure if there's any benefit for keeping heat out with the street side awning. Maybe with the dual hull, that's kept to a minimum anyway.

That makes sense. Another person wrote that it shields the windows on the street side. That made sense too. So many decisions.

As I understand it, the 2021 Elite2 comes with the curbside power awning. I have seen some comments that say that it retracts too easily due to slight wind. I can see that protecting the awning from damage would be good, but is there a work around to anchor it better if the wind is manageable or is it not a problem? One other option is the manual awning on the other side. I am looking at the options list and wondering if anyone has opinions on whether the streetside awning is worth considering. I would think that it might be since the sun might be on the curb side at one point in the day and on the street side at another time. This way you could move your folding chair from one side to another. Thanks for any comments. I know that I am asking a bunch of questions in the last month or so.

So many supply line issues. No bicycles, computer chips, now these toilets.