BoondockingAirstream

All of you are 100% correct. I should not blame Oliver Inc.. I blame myself for not checking everything out and made a mistake trusting someone. This will be my last post on the Forum. When I smell the Tar and see Feathers... time for me to check out.

It is not often that someone who had not helped, now is the expert in waiting. But now that the entire Brake System is upgraded and operational. Common Sense.... If it works, you do not need to fix it. Advice... Critics do not offer advice. They make issue that someone used 'Common Sense and Logic' to source an electrical issue AFTER it was Fixed. If someone came to me and described what their problem was and how to repair it... is better than criticizing me for doing what you did not offer to help, at all. Now... I know what we did, how we did it and without anyone helping. I do not care if you are 'happy'. You had nothing to do with this. Advice 'after the fact' is a bit late. But glad you read the posts and learned something. Even a Neanderthal can fix what you believe you already knew, but did not assist as far as I recall. I would advise that you help others in need, not after the work has been done. Anyone who has had no help in solving your Brake Issue... contact us and I can explain how we learned and solved our Oliver Elite II Brake System... all of it. The experience was interesting and Common Sense is better than NO Advice, 100% of the time. Have a good day and if someone else is in need of help.... step forward and make your massive volume of Oliver knowledge put to work. Thank You

CRM... The problem source was not exposed wiring, but you could test all you like. It was NOT accessible. It had to be bypassed, rewired and connected from front to back. Now it works. Explain that with your volt meter. I use old Technology. If it does not work... FIX IT. If I cannot Fix It... have Someone Else Fix It. My wife and I figured this out using Common Sense. A rare commodity with Wiring that is 20th Century. Works for Us. Who would you suspect did it? The Owner? This Oliver now has All of the Electric Brake Wiring replaced, secured, same or better wiring and WORKS. Set the Brakes at 5... and you feel them for once. "Trailer Connected"... If the Brakes worked... I would have had to do NOTHING. You have no idea what you are talking about. This issue was there, when purchased from the Original Owner. He delivered it to our home, he did not want me to tow it... for Insurance Reasons. Yeah... fell for that. I do not make Excuses for WHY this left Oliver Inc. with non functional electric brakes, or the Original Owner not having them fixed.. If OTHERS have similar issues on the Forum. The Original Owner... knew. Now... I can say the Brakes Work. Hook it up and they still Work. Now... My Olive Elite II BRAKES WORK PERFECTLY. Anyone wants to take a ride? Come see the Rewire and Secure Brake System... now. I reduced the price of the trailer as the Electric Brakes needed to be fixed. I can now raise the price now that this has been solved. A win for ME. A win for a potential BUYER. MY WIFE AND I FIXED IT BY FIGURING IT OUT AND BY ASKING HELPFUL INDIVIDUALS. Neal's RV Center, Orem, Utah has a new Oliver Elite II on their lot. Probably the ONLY ONE in the entire area. After we returned from our TEST DRIVE... which was successful... Mike Neal had sent an Email... saying... 'try this', which was exactly what we had done. Imagine that...

Finished REWIRING what seemed to be the entire Oliver Elite II Brake System... with FEET of insulated wire. The Brakes themselves are probably like new... as they never did work. Which now, for me, is great. 🙂 Today... after finishing our final wiring... connected the F350 Ford Diesel 4x4 and... Trailer Connected and adjust the Gain 5... and went on a 'final test drive'. Gain of 5 or 6 should work as the Brakes obviously had NO WEAR. The previous owner could not have had Brakes. Otherwise they would have been working. Going to our favorite locals Railroad Pass Casino just west of Boulder City, Nevada... get a ice cold Draft Beer and play 5 cent three hand Video Poker. Anyone want to guess what the problem was at the beginning? A Service Tech could rewire this in less than two hours. Thank you all for participating. This is an education for all of us. Human Beans may want to guess... and if you are close to what the FIX WAS... I will post the solution after everything seems to be a FINAL FIX.... If a Neanderthal can do it, you can as well. I will give it a few days... and as they say "Spill the Beans".🙂

After FOUR DAYS +/- in 105+ Nevada... Clear Skies, Sunshine and Lollypops... Nancy and I, armed with Wire and Connectors, rewired, secured the wires of the entire Brake System. The Brakes were so NEW we dropped the Manual Gain to a FIVE. Hooked up the F350 and instantly had BRAKES and could adjust the Gain. Probably going to be a 5 or 6. Nancy said they were doing well at... 5. The Oliver Elite II braking issue obviously was missed at the check out in 2019, when purchased by the owner who sold me the Oliver Elite II. If anyone wants to GUESS WHAT FINISHED THE BRAKING MYSTERY... toss your idea out and I will Nah or Yeah. After a few days... I will Spill the Beans... OK? Mike Neal at Neal's RV Center in Orem, Utah had an email waiting for us, after we tested the F350 and Brake System. Oliver Inc and Neal's RV Center were very helpful. Neal... tossed out the FIX that we had already finished today. Those who had contacted us about purchasing know how to contact Nancy and I. She can explain everything... inside and outside. As someone had said "Get the Brakes Working and raise the price $5,000. Hmmm. I will think about that... Once you have gone through an entire Brake Wiring Project... I know how to lay on my back and move around, using my Elbows. To celebrate. We are going to Railroad Pass Casino just outside Boulder City, Nevada where we live. Get a cold Beer for each of us and play some 5 cent Video Poker. 🙂

I can relate to a woman delivering a baby... I was within 20% of relating... which is enough for me. I feel the cramps and if this does not deliver Manual Braking... so much for the Blue Wire. Blue for male. Pink for Female. Yep... going Blue to White or if need be, the Blue. Strung 15 feet of insulated cord, three wire above the Frame. Just like the factory. I added more as I can always cut it shorter... but do not carry a 'Wire Stretcher' in my pant pocket. You know... measure twice, cut once... most of the time. That is... Extra cord at both ends. Just in case. Not like the Factory... but if this is the FIX... it never worked. The Sun is not up. But it is scheduled to do its thing... as always. Well... you never know. 🙂

Hey jd1923.... You are looking down at Denver, Colorado by a short downtown Prescott, two story building.. Denverites had to go up a few steps at the Capital Building to be called... The Mile High City. They cheated... about 5,278 or so feet padding the numbers due to erosion? Denver... 5280 feet. Cheyenne 6200 feet (6138... they cheated as well). Laramie, WY 7200 feet. We tow the Oliver into the 7,500 to 11,000 feet elevation. Trailers do not care. Tire PSI does not give a hoot, as well. Tent Campers get frost on their pumpkins in a tent, while we have the windows in the Oliver cracked open to taste... thin air. Should can it and sell it to citizens in Prescott... thin air smells sweet. Feed Lots in north central Colorado are around 5500 feet... and it is not Spring in the Air... if you know what I mean. Don't get me started with PSI in Michelin Tires. I am focused on Blue Wire in the next day or so. Many Oliver Elite Owners prefer 70psi to 80psi as it makes the trailer taller. We are happy to get 70psi... PURE THIN AIR when in Leadville, Colorado PSI at 10,158 feet. Weighs half as much as your Hot Air in Prescott. Put that in you whistle and blow a Yankee Doodle tune... Rather squeaky compared to THIN AIR. Wires... oh yes. When the Oliver manual says BLUE WIRE... no wonder the previous owner was confused looking for Blue. Now all of you Ollie's are confused with Ollie's: Fresh & Healthy, Human Grade Dog Food. Or the Good Stuff Cheap Discount Store. So be careful when bragging about an Ollie. Use the proper name... Oliver the British Musical... it will not give you a stomach ache.... 🙂 Oliver the Musical. Oliver Twist. Geez... Google Ollie... and you will prefer Oliver after this message. Geologists have a lot of time when pounding a rock hammer against gold nuggets on the side of a Mountain. Too heavy to take home, of course. Dog Food or Travel Trailer. Our Blue Heelers love the Oliver. As long as there is a cold Beer in the Fridge...." Frankly, my Dear... don't give a damn" and walked off looking to find his Ollie... the Travel Trailer. Don't know Frank... but who cares? Had a long couple days wiring the Oliver. O. L. I. V. E. R. OK? Knock knock, what's in between those ears? 80psi?

Waiting for that 'hot thing in the sky' to... drop below the mountains. An uncomfortable 115F degrees. If it were Centigrade I would not be typing... if you know what I mean. Think POTATO AND FRENCH FRIES. OK? BLUE Wire showed up between the street side axles. Wire showing was white. Then Nancy opened the black wire shield, for the lack of a Travel Trailer term... found a white wire that did not belong there.... and Lordy be... BLUE WIRE and Wiring. If this is the case... this Oliver never had much braking. The previous owner had a F250 and I a 2016 F350 Diesel 4x4 with shell, three Cattle Dogs, a Human Bean and a Neanderthal driving. If you encounter a bad wiring job... this could be the #1 to find. Now... you are e.d.u.c.a.t.e.d. Once it cools down below 100F... I am pulling wire from the Seven Pin Plug that I replaced... AND being a Neanderthal Genius of Sorts... added a long wire to the Blue inside, so I can attach to the 7 Pin, Secure it up to where the cord enters the Oliver.... run it along side the Frame, some Zip Ties to secure from friction... strip the end wires... and... once everything is secured.... well... I will hold off commenting until the curtain is raised. OK? Maybe I will just lay back, watch some Television, drink a lot of H2O (Hydrous Oxide) and Finish this tomorrow Morning. I do not want all of you to 'toot your own horns' prematurely. Give Nancy most of the credit as she found the BLUE... concealed as a WHITE. These brakes obviously have not been used and are LIKE NEW, if this is the case. Help from Brett and Mike at Oliver Inc. in Tennessee and Mike Neal of Mike Neal's RV Center in Orem, Utah with a new Oliver Elite II on the lot. ALL, now agree, it HAS TO BE the BLUE WIRE. That is all that is left. Recall the old tune: Red and Yellow, Black and White? My tune is Blue Moon of Kentucky- Elvis did his version on a 78RPM Record? 🙂

Here is the 'SCOOP'. Finished all of the BRAKE Wiring replacing the Wires through the Dexter Axles. They were not shorting out. Finished connecting ALL of the Brake Wires to Brake Drums. Towing the Airstream... brake system works, towed behind the F350. Steel Equalizer. "Trailer Connected". Manual and Brake Pedal Brakes work. Towing the Oliver... "Trailer Connected". It does not change... until I use the "MANUAL BRAKE OPTION". Then says "Trailer Disconnected". Nancy called 'Weigh Safe'... and was on hold... she must have passed out as she did not move from her seat. Maybe good 'Music'? Or an Engineer selling Trailer Parts promotions? She was going to ask if the 'Aluminum Shank needed a Ground'. The F350 never Leaves the Ground... Someone on the Forum tossed that out. A real curve ball... and who knows... I liked to pitch a Curve Ball just after a low slow sucker ball. You Little League guys know what I mean... 7 way plug connection just swapped out with a new one. Secure wiring. Tight and Bright... all tail lights... working. Brakes are the ONLY PIA. Trailer is GROUNDED with Two large diameter Cables from Oliver Frame to F350 Frame. *F350 and 27FBQ Airstream get along just fine. IF I use the F350 Manual control and IT BRAKES.* The Oliver Elite needs a Spanking. This may be a Factory Issue from the Beginning. My Short Story: Original Owner signed the Title. Took the Cashier's Check from the Bank... Rode into the Sunset. All I ask for are the brakes to work. They are still attached to the Axles with good wiring.

... katanapilot.... I am the guy who tests 9 volt batteries with my tongue. For good or bad. I hope the Tooth Fairy makes a mistake and leaves me some CASH under my Oliver. My electrical equipment is for users under 15 years old.

CRM... I upgraded with new wiring through the Dexter Axles and replaced the two axle originals. Neither were worn through the insulation, so no bare wires shorting the system. In the process, ran insulated wires and inserted them through a flexible hose, nylon zip tied across each of the two axles. Exterior, back side of each Axle, with Zip Ties. Looks real... pretty. Found a Blue Wire on the outside Rear Wheel brake wiring... hidden into the plastic cover in the fender well. The wire was connected to a WHITE going to the Brakes. (Nancy was following the Seven Pin Cords into the Oliver. She is one Hot Oliver Chick Wire Hunter. I say. A good woman that gets into the situation is RARE. She is a KEEPER. Then had Nancy spin the tires on the Left... pull the Breakaway Switch... and LOCKED. Then the right side... same routine... and LOCKED. Now... going to attach the Oliver, with the Aluminum Shanked Weigh Safe with the 2" Ball, as soon as close this post. Not running a Ground Wire from the F350 to the Oliver. I purchased the 2019 27 foot FBQ Signature Airstream, that we added a 3" Lift, Two Solar Panels and went to 16" Sendel Wheels, 16 inch Michelin tires (Like the Oliver FROM the Factory... that already has the high clearance.) A previous Forum Member said that using the Aluminum Shank Weigh Safe, possibly no Ground. Nancy called Weigh Safe and was on hold. I am getting older and my nasal hairs just began to grow out of control... so enough is enough. Or the conversations are... interesting? Weigh Safe's? The BONUS of the Oliver Elite II... is the.... DOUBLE AXLE, LEAF SPRINGS, 16" MICHELIN TIRES AND SENDEL WHEELS and CLEARANCE. The Interior Storage is comparable to larger Airstreams. Owning a 23', 25' and now a 27'... the Oliver Elite II is our favorite... with the double axles. The 27 foot Airstream may be 700 pounds heavier than the Oliver Elite II. The Oliver Elite II is built to last. The shortest Airstream with Double Axles is a 23 foot. Had one... also a great travel trailer. Obvious to Nancy and I.... these Brakes may have never worked properly with the first Owner. We have followed wiring and none of it makes any sense. Of course... riding an Arabian Horse the first time... is a similar experience. Don't wear tight pants... I say. On the Horse or under an Oliver. OK? Free Advice. Buzz Off and enjoy your day. It was only 108F today. Great to be UNDER the Oliver and putting my tools back onto a shelf. Sorry that this post is so short. 🙂 I am no longer sweating, I thought I was under the Oliver and Kissed by an Angel... it was one of our Cattle Dogs licking me... and I have had 72 ounces of water already. That is another issue... to make this short. Maybe the Oliver Fairy Brake Princess will bless our Oliver? Probably not... but thanks for participating. I see a Book being outlined on this Ordeal. With illustrations, too. About kissing something... or other.

Going to try that right as soon as I get the F350 out and plugged to the Oliver.

Yes. All lights work. Brake lights operate. That is what fooled me several years ago... apply brakes... tail lights work.

Your comment helps me a lot and I will be 'onto' the Blue Wire from the Tow Vehicle to Travel Trailer this AM. Airstream... works. Olivier... does not. Not the Tow Vehicle in my Opinion. But will not know until this is... solved. The 2019 Airstream has operated perfectly since 2019. YOU HAVE TO BUY THE TRAILER... BEFORE THEY WILL DO ANY WORK ON IT ON THE LOT. WARRANTY BEGINS AFTER PURCHASE AND THEN THE COMPANY PAYS THE DEALER. (That is what I was told.). Made a Deposits... went through the Airstream and everything was taken care of that day. Still perfect. Obviously the previous owner who bought the 2019 Oliver new... never would respond to my inquiries left on phone calls, the day after purchase. My radar was done after seeing this Wonderful Boondocking Ready Travel Trailer. 🙂 The Ball on the Tow Vehicle use to be the Ground between the Tow Vehicle and Trailer. I also have the two Chains, as well. I will try to find a possible cut Blue Wire hidden among the massive bundles of wires. The only option after running the Blue Wire Direct... is my Airstream Dealer in Henderson, Nevada. They added Solar, 3" Lift and went through the entire trailer on the lot. Still 100%. The Oliver is almost... 100%. Your point of the "fuse for the Blue Wire is in your Tow Vehicle" helps me more than you can imagine. This will also help others check for a Fuse in the Tow Vehicle, first. Mine works for one 2019 trailer, but not this 2019 trailer. I tow with a 2016 F350 Diesel 4x4 and easily tows and brakes the Oliver... but the brakes were... not cooperating at all. The previous owner's service provider is not talking. They really ruined the Truma Hot Water unit. My wife is a Human Bean and they are not interested in commenting about any work. I just need to know... but left to figure it out on my own. Anyone else had a Blue Wire Brake Issue? You are helping everyone to understand. I am a Geologist... in the Open Country of Wyoming an individual has to fix, repair and understand. Reading a quadrangle Map is a must. Worked Two Years for OSHA in the remote work places in Wyoming... surprise inspections and investigate fatalities in the Lumber and Oil Patch in 1970-1972. I was just out of the US Army after 1 year 9 months 28 days getting an Early Out after Vietnam was not needing more of us. Been there. Done it. Now... need to Done IT again, by learning, doing and asking questions.