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I noticed that the awning on our 2014 Elite II sometimes takes a while to get it fully retracted. On closer inspection, I’ve discovered that Tali’s arm was giving out at about half way and she was having to rest a while before finishing winding it completely in. Glad it wasn’t something more serious.
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Just so everybody is on the same page, the bearing Kit shown above is for the 3500 pound axles used on the Elite II's through 2021. In 2022 Oliver started installing a 5200 pound axle on the Elite II models. This axle is the same size that has always been supplied on the Elite's except it is de-rated to a 3500 pound weight capacity due to using a 4 leaf spring pack (3500 lbs) instead of the normal 5 leaf spring pack (5200 lbs.) These new axles are now standard with Dexter's Nev-R-Lube Bearings.
If you have a 2021 or earlier Elite II with the standard bearings they cannot be replaced by the Nev-R-Lube style. There were changes made to both the hub size and the spindle size. The complete axle would have to be replaced.
If you have a 2021 or earlier Elite I it will require the standard bearings for a 5200 pound axle.
If you have a 2021 or earlier Elite II it will require the standard bearings for a 3500 pound axle.
Advantages with Dexter's Nev-R-Lube Bearings:
* No need to pull the hubs to repack the bearings or replace the grease seals when checking the brakes.
* No more inner and outer bearings. Just one sealed bearing cartridge.
* Pre-set adjustment means installation is easy and human error is virtually eliminated in bearing adjustment.
* Pre-lubricated at the bearing factory providing resistance to contamination.
* Sealed for life which means increased durability and reliability and no more bearing maintenance.
* 5 year or 100,000 mile warranty against defects in material and workmanship.I do want to emphasize if you do have a trailer that has the Nev-R- Lube bearings installed there are periodic checks that need to be performed to make sure they are in good working order.
Nev-R-Lube Bearing maintenance needing performed every 12 months or 12,000 miles.
1. Elevate and support the trailer unit per manufactures instructions. Never jack the trailer up on any part of the axle. Always jack the trailer up on the main frame rails of the trailer.
2. Check for excessive wheel end clearance by pulling the tire assembly towards you and by pushing the assembly away from you. Slight end play is acceptable.
3. Rotate tire slowly forwards and backwards. The wheel should turn freely and smoothly.
4. Excessive wheel end play, restriction to rotation, noise, or bumpy rotation should be remedied by replacing the bearing unit.
Note: A slight amount of grease weeping from the seal is normal. Excessive leakage may indicate abnormal bearing operation.The important thing to remember is that even though this bearing is sealed and does not need lubricated it still needs to have a yearly inspection for the end play. Having this checked will hopefully keep you from having wheel bearing issues on that next adventure you are planning.
If there's a downside, it would be that if/when you need to replace them it will cost a lot more than the old style bearings and seals. A sealed Nev-R- Lube bearing Kit -42MM CARTRIGE & ATTACHING COMP, FITS 5,200 LB & 6,000 LB AXLES - Part #K71-997-00 will cost over $300 per wheel. I would be remiss to only replace one at a time.
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23 minutes ago, Steve Morris said:
...I'm ready to head out again!! 😃 Including the five nights so far, we have 31 nights scheduled for this year (plus the Egg rally in Florida in January) and another two tentative. Plus whenever I can drag Deb away from her gardens to go somewhere...
Are you guys planning on coming to the OTTOR in May?
Edit: Sorry, I remembered just now that you're the keeper of the list.
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As a "barely on topic" aside, Jason Essary asked me to please poll the group here to see if there are any particular topics we might want him to specifically focus on for his presentation at the rally. I will start a new thread for that purpose but thought this might be a good place to introduce the idea. Sorry for the interruption.
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Jason Essary asked me to please poll the group here to see if there are any particular topics we might want him to specifically focus on for his presentation at the rally. Please name a topic such as "Bearing Care and Lubrication" or "leveling the trailer in quicksand", anything that you're curious about and might be of general interest to the group attending. Be specific, I will send him the link to this thread and he can pick from your suggestions.
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7 hours ago, Wayfinder said:
@ScubaRx or anyone, did the reminder to register with Oliver themselves for the OTTOR get put on the major Facebook page(s)? I know I put a reminder out about that quite a while ago, when I too didn't realize I needed to register with Oliver, but I don't see a recent post about it on the "Oliver Trailer Owners" FB page, but I likely missed it.
Again, I'll be in campsite G28 - Chris from Augusta, GA.
Although I do read and sometimes post answers on that FB page, I have never personally initiated a thread there. This forum nor Oliver TT has no official connection with it. It is moderated by three Oliver owners. So, if it has been posted there, it was not by myself.
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3 hours ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:
Hello to the Oliver Community!
We are Diana and Steve Parsons, currently Airstream owners (2012 Flying Cloud 25 FB), but have been wanting an Oliver since we learned of them via Air Forums. One of the things we need to figure out is living in a smaller trailer with to large German Wirehair Pointers. If anyone has tips on how to make it work, we’d love to hear from you.
Kind Regards to all,
Steve
We travel with two (formerly three) dogs. One, a 104 pound Doberman Pincher and two, a 10 pound mix. Reacher (104 pounder) sleeps on the dinette bed which must be made down for him on demand. Rocky, at 10 pounds sleeps wherever he wants to, usually with one of us. We keep their water dish in the bathroom (Reacher will drink a quart of water at a time and make a big mess in the process.) We usually carry a forty pound sack of dog food in the closet.
Everybody loves their dogs and many folks travel with them. You make it work because you can't imagine traveling without them with you. Ours have been to every state, lots of Canada and Alaska.
"Wanna go for a ride?"
"Wanna get in the truck?"
"Wanna go camping?"
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9 hours ago, MarkC said:
Anyone run into this problem. I get into the basement storage area during the day...then crawl into bed during the evening. I turn out the lights in the trailer. Then look down at the basement access door and see that the basement light is on. Depending on my mood (and/or weather), I get up go out and turn it off or roll over and go to sleep. I'm thinking Oliver should relocate switch.
You actually need to replace the existing SPST switch with two SPDT switches wired as a 3-way setup with one of the switches inside the cabin. I mounted mine down beside the basement access door.
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On 4/3/2023 at 8:30 PM, Steve Morris said:
...It formats weird if I do it from my phone, adding an extra carriage return.
I took the liberty of "fixing" a place in your list that had done just that. I think my OCD just got the better of me and I hope that doesn't upset you. Thank you so much for taking the time to keep this list.
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This is for all attendees of the upcoming rally in Alabama. Even though you've secured your campsite at Lake Guntersville SP, if you have not registered with Oliver and paid your registration fees, you're not finished yet. Rodney Lomax at the sales and service office contacted me this morning to ask me to get the word out that the list from the campground of campsite registrations far out number the list of people that have registered with Oliver that they plan to attend. They need this taken care of by April 21st in order for Oliver to be able to tell the campground how many people will be attending to predict the amount of food they will need to prepare for the people in attendance. This information is also needed to determine how much meeting space will be required for the attendees. Neither of the items are free from the park and will be partially paid for by your Oliver registration fee with the remainder being subsidized by Oliver.
You are not required to registered with Oliver to attend the gathering. But, if you wish to attend any of the planned activities or partake of the provided meals you will need to be wearing the name badge that will be included in your welcome "swag bag" of goodies that you will pick up after you arrive at the campground.
After the aforementioned date the Oliver registration will be closed. You can not just show up and pay at the door this year.
Let's get this taken care of ASAP. This link will answer all your questions: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/events/oliver-owners-rally/
I am very much looking forward to seeing all of our old friends and meeting the newer owners as well as any owners that have never been to an OTTOR (Oliver Travel Trailer Owner's Rally.) If you've ever been to a trailer rally, this one will be nothing like you've ever experienced before.
Drop by E05 and set a spell with us. There's always something going on near the Outlaw Oliver.
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4 hours ago, ShallowGal said:
Me too!
My worst anxiety inducing situation is merging onto busy interstates. "Please let me in, please let me in, please ..." is my prayer.
Chris (not Duke)
Another Oliver owner taught me this. You're about to merge or change lanes, activate your blinker, assume the attitude that you're not asking for permission but rather you're indicating your intentions, don't try this with anything bigger than you.
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Just open the bathroom window and turn on the Maxxfan.
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Welcome to the club, from Hull #050...
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10 hours ago, Ollie-Haus said:
That's a nice demonstration of how not to strain one's back. Very nice setup. Do you know roughly how this effects tongue weight. Some of the comments indicated they were a little bit lite on tongue weight. This seems it would put you up in the good range. Thanks!
I've not checked my tongue weight in a while. I had my Sherline out earlier today to weigh the tongue weight on our daughter's new trailer, It was less than 100 pounds,
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I always just open the existing drain valve when we are 25 miles or so from home and let it go. Our valve is very easy to get to.
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4 hours ago, Ollie-Haus said:
In the comments on tongue weight, nobody has mentioned cargo or generators mounted in the tongue storage basket. Are any of the mentioned tongue weights including significant weight in the basket?
We have carried our Yamaha EF3000iSEB 3000 Watt Generator in the front basket for the past 15 years. It weighs well over 150 pounds when fueled. I can easily lift it by myself and place it into the basket! 😊
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4 hours ago, SNY SD UP said:
MAX Burner
what is with the Grey Box inside your dog house on the street side?
That box is where all the connections for the 7-pin cable and the trailer are located.
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28 minutes ago, GAP said:
...When questioned, our salesperson told us that she knew of a couple that lived in their stock Oliver through the winter in Alaska. This is simply not possible. We are very disappointed in the exaggerated claim...
Be careful when you say something is "simply not possible." i.e. Many engineers have long said that bumblebees shouldn't be able to fly, or that bumblebee flight is not consistent with any known aerodynamics. This is obviously a myth since they are, in fact, able to fly. Modern research using technology such as aerodynamic modelling and high speed cameras, have provided further proof that bumblebees can indeed fly. So, this Alaska "claim" is not exaggerated. I have personal knowledge of several different Oliver's that spent two winters in Alaska. Also, for years every trailer forum I am associated with (including this one) said that it was impossible to run an RV air conditioner off batteries. But now.....
... and a bit insulted by the recent caveat that they are 4 Season Trailer - in the south.
Please state the source for "the recent caveat that they are 4 Season Trailer - in the south." Also, although I have long searched for a definition for the term "4 season trailer", I have yet to find a reliable source that could provide a definitive answer. If you have one please share it with the group.
That is misappropriation of a widely accepted term in the name of marketing. Given our style of camping (primarily boondocking in ski resort parking lots - we are concerned that no amount of consumer level modification will allow reliable mid winter use. Our situation may be somewhat unique but we spent roughly $75k on the trailer and $50k on a truck capable of towing it based on inaccurate marketing so feel we are justified in squeaking about this situation.
I'm sorry, but unfortunately, given your style of camping and the 'as delivered' capabilities of the Oliver, you may have chosen an inadequate trailer. I could not begin to advise you on an alternative as I would never intentionally camp in the conditions you have chosen and have never researched it along those lines.
Oliver can and should do the mods, even if offered as an add on package, to accommodate reasonable winter use...
Oliver can do mods after the build, if they choose to which they may or may not. Whether you can afford it would be another question and entirely up to you. It would have to be designed by you and presented to them for consideration. Honestly, I would not count on it.
or should curb their claims of 4 season capacity. All that said, we love our trailer and appreciate it's build quality and aesthetics. Thanks to this super knowledgeable community for your thoughtful feedback on this subject.
In a side note, we will be coming thru your area in June and I would be happy to hear your ideas on what you think would be needed. I've done many extensive mods on our trailer thru the years and if I could offer you any assistance, I would be glad to.
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19 hours ago, GAP said:
...My take is that these trailers without extensive mods are not safe to use the water system when outside temps sit in the low 20s for more than a day or so...
If I were someone that actually enjoyed being out in weather that cold and had purchased a travel trailer for the express purpose of being able to do it, I would make whatever modifications I felt were necessary to enable me to be able to safely and comfortably enjoy my passion.
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8 minutes ago, John Welte said:
Mike, I read all the comments above in the thread. My understanding of PEX lines are that they can expand quite a bit without breaking. 3 times their size if I recall. Water expands something like 9%, a figure that wouldn't present a problem for the PEX lines. One source I read said that the temperature needed to freeze water in a PEX line that isn't insulated is 20°f. Two problems that I see happening in freezing temperatures are the inability to have water at the faucet due to the water now being frozen in the PEX lines and possible breaking at the non PEX junctions. Maybe if they use PVC fittings which I think are used, that wouldn't be able to expand like the PEX and they would fail. I would think that the water in the small PVC fittings would expand out into the PEX line laterally instead of pushing against the walls of the PVC fitting, in other words, the path of least resistance. I can't see myself camping in sub freezing temperatures, but a brief period of sub freezing temperatures might happen while pulling the trailer through mountains, for instance. Maybe for most of us, we don't have to worry about freezing lines. I winterized the trailer and will take it out when it's safely above freezing. Am I being overly confident in the ability of the trailer to withstand a little cold?
John
My research into the capacities of PEX have netted similar info as you have stated above. Although there have been times where we were caught by bad weather, I too, reside in the group of folks that would never purposely camp in sub freezing temps.
There have been mountains of how-to information posted here and all over the internet concerning cold weather (at freezing or above) camping and, since you've probably already read it all, I won't go into it again here.
So, in answer to your question "Am I being overly confident in the ability of the trailer to withstand a little cold?" ... Absolutely not.
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That's the same price I paid (out the door, no tax) at the Big Tent in Quartzsite last month. I bought an extra 100 amp hour battery to put into the truck to run the Dometic fridge/freezer.
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On 3/16/2023 at 12:02 PM, Mountainman198 said:
Still have the original front logo but am planning to remove and replace with the attached. If you are thinking it looks as though it was designed by a Kindergartner, it was. One of the kids who used to ride my school bus drew it and I thought it was apt for "Lottie".
Looks just like you, Lance. I’d get the artist to sign the original. It might be worth a fortune some day.
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4 hours ago, Ollie-Haus said:
I'll leave any on line research to the owner, but I will pose a question that will need to be answered. What does Toyota and the owner's manual say about using a weight distribution hitch on that particular vehicle. It sounds like it's within the tow rating, but payload does not define tongue weight capacity. Some vehicles don't allow WD hitches to mitigate tongue weight. Just saying this is another limit that must be considered.
Weight distribution works to distribute the tongue weight of a trailer up to the front axle of the tow vehicle so that it will sit more level and handle/brake better. That being said the weight distribution systems do not "reduce or mitigate” tongue weight or allow you to tow beyond the capacities of the vehicle.
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I'm new here --My name is Mark and I'm having my LEII built
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Welcome to the forum. All Ford F-150’s will require the Andersen, as do all the light duty trucks.