SissyBoyFloyd

It does have that Oliver look

Thrs afternoon is tomorrow. So I will comment re: your situation. With all the elect & hitech stuff on vehicles, and I'm talking associated with the workings of the engines and such, besides the complicated touch screen controls, I would really want a 'full' bump-> bump warranty if I was one to keep my vehicle for a long time and the price of warranty was decent. I am sure you would be surprised of how limiting the engine/chassis warranty actually is. There are just hundreds of expensive items that can go off. IE, my last mini-van had just 1 of several computer circuitry that controlled engine in some way go bad 10 yrs ago - That was $1700 out of my pocket right after 36 month warranty went out. I had engine ext warranty, but they said that was electrical. Can't imagine what those new 6-7" info screen computer control thingies would cost when they go bad. Gotta make sure if you pay for ext warranty what exactly it covers and especially not covers Also the more miles you drive each year might require you pay for more mileage not just pay for so many months of coverage. Some may not cover one's higher miles driven, even though one has months or yrs in time left. Just a lot of food for thought. Balance the cost in regards to the peace of mind you personally want and need.

Can't beat a free lifetime warranty. Not much risk for the dealer considering the already long manuf warranty on drivetrain and length of time most people keep their vehicles. I do want to add a 'for your info' comment on extended warranties based on my previous years selling Honda and Toyota vehicles. Extended warranties are a huge cash cows for dealers and especially for the finance dept person who does all the closing/financial parts of your transaction. Those warranties have enormous markups and the finance 'mgrs' are free to get as much or little as they can for each. They will gouge if they can, or sell for $50 profit if that is all they think they can get from you. I have known some buyers bold enough to have them get their book out and show their cost and offer them $100 or $200 profit if they want to make a sale. I would think any of those warranties could be had for at least half of the price they initially ask for one. After all it is the last chance they have to squeeze a few extra dollars out of you. At least say to them, No, not at that price. They Will Come Down! I believe the last new car I bought in 1990, they wanted $1800 for ext warr. and I said I would pay $700, and he was happy to take it. It did pay for itself, for I broke the drivetrain on the sports car right after manuf warr. was up. It cost 2 grand to fix. Oh yes, one more thing. You'd have to google search to find one, but nowadays there are one or more ext warranty salesmen out there who work for dealerships that sell most every make of vehicle on one of their many dealerships in that city, who over the internet will sell you any manuf. ext warr. for $150 or so over cost. They are legit and sell exactly the same as you local dealership. Guess you could play one against the other if need be. Check it out.

Maybe 1500-2000 miles total during 6 mths of <winter> season and maybe 5-8k pulling trailer in <summer> type mths (May -> Oct/Nov. I plan on staying 6 mths per yr parked on my own lot in AZ, hardly ever driving the truck.

Would you mind telling us the price range of a new RAM 1500 4x4 w/ 5.7 Hemi? Is that something Oliver owners would suggest for simply pulling an Oliver all around the country for the next 10 years and really nothing else? I suppose one should budget an additional 70k for new Oliver on top of the price of the truck. Any other top dollar items involved in the initial purchase? Thx

Has anyone used one of these for RVing: <h1>Goal Zero Yeti 1000 Lithium Portable Power Station</h1>

Where on an Oliver is an owner more likely to find a leak? Where specifically will one need to keep a lookout for leaks immediately, and also over time? And what areas if any, will you need to calk regularly? At which points will one see rusting begin, and what does one do about that?

Hear, hear!

Being new to all this RVing stuff, one spends time supposing things. Wondering if many of these suppositions are fair and accurate, maybe some of you will weigh in on them as I (or others) think of them and list them in this thread. Supposing you are pulling your Ollie and decide you need to go shopping and fill up on some items. It seems to me that pulling into and out of all entry ways of shopping centers and maneuvering down parking isles would be too hard. Thus, do you always go find your camping spot, disconnect, and only then attempt errands and shopping? As opposed to pulling in with a 30' motorhome or even shorter truck camper? Are good headphones a must when camping so as not to disturb neighbors when watching TV late at night? How quiet is it to those outside your Ollie with windows opened and closed? In the EII single bed model, when using one bed as a couch, is the other bed close enough to use it like an ottoman, putting your legs up across the aisle? Why don't they use the same pedestal style table with hole in floor between the single beds like they do in the regular floor plan? Is there not a plug from truck to trailer to charge batteries when driving while pulling trailer? And if so, wouldn't just starting and idling truck always be a way to charge batteries while camping, I suppose replacing a generator? Speaking of generators, like the small Honda often mentioned on here, wouldn't the easiest way to run one be simply connecting to outside propane connector, so as not having to deal with large cans of gasoline? What reason is it that not every RV is equipped with an instant on demand continuous hot water heater like a Truma? I'm assuming there is a good water filter that filters all water in entire coach? Is leveling your Oliver the biggest chore when arriving at nightly sleeping spots, and is that always/usually necessary? enough for 1 post. Thx 4 any/all replies.

Back in my VW camper days (1970), that one would have been quit elaborate me. I would have felt that that was for rich people, not for poor simpleton like me.

Thx for the input. Scratch the Nissan.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=516066166 Just narrowing the field right now. Would this work well or should I just forget about anything less than a three quarter ton?

Is there, or have there been, any groups of Oliver owners who travel together boondocking full time around the country?

Sounds like a lot of fuss and bother. Seems like it would be easier to poop into a plastic bag, tie it and drop into closest trash bin when going out. That is what I did back in 70's when traveling around the states in my VW camper. Life was so simple then, and one could live so cheaply. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSOWG7U/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01MSOWG7U&pd_rd_w=8RheO&pf_rd_p=8a8f3917-7900-4ce8-ad90-adf0d53c0985&pd_rd_wg=nBpFo&pf_rd_r=30WGH6088ZGTFA5B7GDV&pd_rd_r=36ed9dab-897d-11e9-8d2e-a70b2f04bb3c

Thx John. Yes, I have been reading their reviews over the last few weeks. That is a good site. Both of those trucks I mentioned were 2012s. was told that that was the last year of diesels that did not require DEF which I thought would be less to bother with and save some money.

Not yet, but have a couple nice used ones picked out if I decide to go the Oliver or NL tc way, a 2012 2500 Ram Laramie diesel w/ 48k miles, and a 2012 Ford F350 Lariat diesel dually w/ 39k miles.

Well John boy, now you've done it. I have spent the last month reading and watching videos on these truck campers and have become open to them to some degree. I have put aside the idea of a 5th wheel for now. With the tc (truck camper), not having to pull something behind and be so limited in parking it when on the go, it sure gets me back to my original thought of simplicity like having a small motorhome. I had never given tcs any thought, for my only experience was seeing those ugly tilted or slanted ones being driven by some old codger out in the desert or country/boondocks somewhere. Visually seeing the inside of a N.L. camper via youtube, they very much appeal to me. A small touch of luxury does appeal to me also. Being able to remove it when needed and still use it as your home makes it even more practical. My main concerns or fears at present would be how really secure and stable are they when mounted and continually remounted on your truck, how much might they shift while driving, and especially how would wind gusts affect them compared to pulling a trailer or a big/tall motorhome. At times, being old and alone makes me realize how important it is to have the simplest, least worrisome moving-home I can buy. Some weeks the way to go with the least amount of care, hassle, and concerns appears to be a new or slightly used 25-35' motorhome of better than average quality like a Mercedes, dodge, or ford diesel Dynamax, ie: https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2018-Dynamax-Corp-ISATA-5-SERIES-36DS-5007199261 I may very well be debating these in my mind right up to the moment before they begin cutting me up on some cold damp slab in front of a dozen new med students who are arguing over the meaning of my final last words "I think I've finally got it!".

.... BIGGER is better? For instance: In relation to rear axles, a numerically bigger/higher axle ratio will tow a heavier trailer than a lower ratio number, such as 3.73 compared to 3.55 or 3.21. So generally speaking, in this case one could say that bigger is better.

If I may ask, what % of the year did you stay in private campground, state or national park, family/friends property, and boondock? What do you think you spent on overnight parking for the year or on average per month? Thx

Non-stop, who, what, and for how long has anyone full timed it? Any records known about or set? What's your personal one in months, years, miles traveled consecutively or whatever? Anyone planning forever?

Me: 1. I feel the bath is fine now. Wouldn't want valuable space dedicated to something like a dry bath w/ shower you use so little, timewise. After all, if you're not a coal miner, how long does it take to wash and clean yourself? 2. My only desire if adding length is space for a comfortable lounge chair. (see #3) 3. I would love an option for just 1 single bed, maybe full size single, and across from it a pc desk/drawer/file arrangement (techie work/ entertainment center if you like) in place of the other bed. Add a combo desk/lounge chair for the workstation that would slide up to and fit under desk when not used, but with a reclining feature to be used for watching tv or even napping/sleeping in. That would then be the perfect trailer for a boondocking/traveling single person, including retirees, journalists, photographers, authors, astronomers, archeologists, &/or hermits.

Whether a TT, 5th wheel, or even a motorhome, while you're traveling, boondocking, etc, does one have to be worried about their RV being unattended when they leave it to go shopping, sightseeing, hiking, or whatever? How easy and likely would it be for someone to hop into or hook it up to their truck and drive away.

I liked this lounge I saw at Costco store yesterday. The legs totally disappear underneath inside of outer frame when folded up. Lounge would then, I believe, lay nicely on top of mattress, flat facing either direction, with the back still adjustable from flat to nearly upright with several stops in between. The bottom half has a nice raised/sloped portion under knee area. One could also open legs and sit down in middle of trailer, and take outside also of course. It looks perfect for what I had in mind and more adjustable and usable than the foam idea I had in mind. https://www.costco.com/Palm-Aire-Woven-Padded-Chaise-Lounge%2c-2-pack.product.100424396.html The 1 I saw at Costco was sold as 1, not in a pair, for much less money. I'm thinking it was closer to $200 apiece. However, my memory is spotty to say the least.

I just had an idea for any entrepreneurs out there. Create a latex/memory foam lounger that simply sets/lays atop a single bed and conforms perfectly to a lounge/recliner with a slanted back and curved through hips and legs, exact position most people sit in at home when watching TV. It would only have to be 4-5' long and light enough to move or set aside if needed. In fact, make 2, 1 for TV watching and 1 for those who sleep in a recliner. Could possibly be a 2n1 with the highest portion removable. Just a thought. Oops, too late. https://www.birchbaby.com/bedlounge-regular-hypoallergenic-navy-cotton/?gclid=CjwKCAjw2cTmBRAVEiwA8YMgzevxY5pbdjWR_Ijte6m9SQjK0Sh_MLXbdkKuSNo6xIiAxkkYOZLe7BoCSUkQAvD_BwE https://www.rakuten.com/shop/costway/product/HW53981BE/?sku=HW53981BE&scid=pla_google_costway&gclid=CjwKCAjw2cTmBRAVEiwA8YMgzSwTe6iN2HxBs9s1H0LABVK1oAhJxllO71DwtIDsJUQC1htq1xr9hBoCE-MQAvD_BwE

Anyone heard of any future plans to make a female version of an Oliver? An Olive maybe? Also, for us old folks who aren't spry any longer, in an Elite II w/ twin beds, where do you find you sit comfortably for long periods? For me, with arthritis pain in hip, legs, and back, being used to a nice size lounging recliner, I have to wonder where you find yourself being most relaxed and comfortable in you Ollie.