John E Davies Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 This is something you can do in a few minutes. Level the trailer using a good carpenters level placed on the floor. Level front to back and also sideways, until it is dead level in all directions. Using the three Philips screws on the bubble level, adjust until the bubble is right in the center of the smallest circle. Using a silver Sharpie or similar permanent marker, place an index line on the level housing and also on the adjacent motor cover. The reason for this is that the level can go on three different ways, and only one way will be correct: I wonder why they didn't just make the slots asymmetrical so this couldn't happen...? Related thread: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/2082-how-to-install-a-big-bubble-level-no-drilling/ John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspy Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 That whole top piece with the four tabs that contains the "level" is not stable enough to rely on. It can be turned and knocked off level too easily to rely on. I wanted to use it from day one, but gave up on it. After I get the trailer level, I adjust the jack level to match, and the next time it's way off. Also, you may find that the floor is not the surface you really want to use for the level reference. Water tank level, bed level and counter top level are also reference points that can prove to be worth looking at and probably more important than the floor. Once you find the best average for your use, you might find a spot that matches that the best for a leveling reference. Or at least you can lock-in your reference level to match it. Since I can't use the jack level, I have a couple of spots that I use for my standard. John "I only exaggerate enough to compensate for being taken with a grain of salt." LE2 #92 (sold), Black Series HQ19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenLukens Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 That whole top piece with the four tabs that contains the “level” is not stable enough to rely on. It can be turned and knocked off level too easily to rely on. I wanted to use it from day one, but gave up on it. After I get the trailer level, I adjust the jack level to match, and the next time it’s way off. Also, you may find that the floor is not the surface you really want to use for the level reference. Water tank level, bed level and counter top level are also reference points that can prove to be worth looking at and probably more important than the floor. Once you find the best average for your use, you might find a spot that matches that the best for a leveling reference. Or at least you can lock-in your reference level to match it. Since I can’t use the jack level, I have a couple of spots that I use for my standard. The whole head of the jack moves around on mine only being held on by 2 screws on opposite sides, making it undependable. The fridge needs to be level, I just used the Outter hulls seam to level with, then put RV levels inside and out. The seam worked really well as my main leveling point but it will differ from front to back and side to side if you're using the jacks to level with. For the one time base leveling, you need to use blocks under the tires first, not the stabilizers and do it on as level of ground as you can find :) 1 Happy Camping, Reed & Karen Lukens with Riffles our Miniature Poodle 2017 Oliver Legacy Elite II Standard, Hull #200 / 2017 Silverado High Country 1500 Short Bed 4x4 Past TV - 2012 Mercedes-Benz ML350 4Matic BlueTEC Diesel Click on our avatar pic above to find the videos on our Oliver Legacy Elite II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted June 13, 2017 Moderators Share Posted June 13, 2017 Good idea, John. I use the jack bubble for a quick estimation of level when setting up. Final leveling is done with a 12" level at various spots, inside and out. After final leveling I readjust the bubble level. Mike Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted June 14, 2017 Moderators Share Posted June 14, 2017 In backing into a space I get the camper close to where I want it, but, since I'm still attached to the TV, in most cases, it is impossible to use the jack bubble level for anything. So, right after I brought Twist home I got it as leveled as possible and then attached a couple of Camco levels to the exterior near the belly line - one on the front and two on either side by the front door and near the bath window. Now when I get close I simply look at the bubble level on the front of the camper and estimate how much I will need to raise (or lower) that side in order to get the side to side issue close. Using the Andersen levelers makes this process a bit easier as compared to using the lego stacking blocks or scraps of wood. Once the side to side is taken care of and I disconnect from the TV I use the Jack level to get close but final adjustments are made by looking at the bubble level that I stuck to either side of Twist. If I'm stopping somewhere just for the night and not disconnecting from the truck, I again use the level on the front of the camper for the side to side issue and if the camper is nose down I use the jack and its level to get close as long as I don't need to raise the nose too far - I don't want to raise both the camper and the rear of the truck too far. These little levels only cost a couple of bucks and once they are stuck they don't seem to move. I would have purchased a larger level fro the front similar to what Reed and Karen have done, but, I've not been able to find one that I like the looks of yet. Bill 1 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpetguy Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I just use my iPhone level. First side to side while hitched up, then front to rear after unhitching. Worked with the Ollie, and with the Airstream. Wife is behind the wheel while we use the Andersen leveler for side to side. another way to level the Ollie side to side was with the swing of the bathroom door. I added some electric jack switches to the interior (ScubaRx) idea and just used the jacks to move us around. It worked. Current 2007 Airstream Classic Limited 31 2015 Oliver Legacy Elite II (Sold) 2016 Ram 2500 HD 6.7i Cummins turbo diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlakemike Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So THAT is what those switches do? Mike and Elizabeth Smith Snow Lake Shores, MS 2016 Ford F150 3.5 EB, max tow (20,900 miles pulling Ollie since Sept 2016) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpetguy Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 LOL. Yes Mike, the switches on the wall of the street side bunk control the jacks from inside. Thank Steve L. For that. Comes in handy when the weather is bad. Current 2007 Airstream Classic Limited 31 2015 Oliver Legacy Elite II (Sold) 2016 Ram 2500 HD 6.7i Cummins turbo diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I was searching the forum for guidance on the bubble level and noted that my level does have an arrow on it that you align with the indicated 'Lock Position' decal, so ne need to mark a reference point on it. Thanks Geoff Howe '17 Legacy Elite II - #260 / '14 JGC Summit Diesel Geoff Howe '17 Legacy Elite II #260 / '14 JGC Summit Diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted December 1, 2017 Moderators Share Posted December 1, 2017 Geoff - Be a bit careful with this. Assuming that you are talking about the bubble level that is on the top of the front jack - these levels are spring loaded and are prone to being not terribly accurate. They get bumped and do not necessarily reset in the same position that they started with. Yes, you can use them to get close or "ballpark" level, but if you are particular then you will either need to use a regular level (two or three foot is good) or by making sure the camper is level once, place a couple of the "stick on" type levels where they are convenient to you and you will never have to go looking for a level again. Bill 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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