Wil Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I'm considering buying an Elite II and was wondering if my 2002 Toyota Land Cruiser with a 6,500 pound towing capacity can handle it. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Welcome to the form. Your LC100 would be acceptable for the small Elite but in no way is it OK for the LE2. Too little power, too few gears, too little towing capacity. But some of that depends on where and how you plan to tow. If you stuck to the eastern states and flat terrain it would manage, until you got so mad that you traded it in for a new 2023 Sequoia Hybrid.... which would be a wonderful tow vehicle. John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted February 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted February 8, 2022 13 hours ago, Wil said: with a 6,500 pound towing capacity can handle it. If you live in an area of the country that is FLAT and will never tow outside that area and will never load things in the Oliver that cause it to exceed that towing limit, and never have an emergency situation and always keep EVERY SINGLE THING in the tow vehicle up to date and are one of the most careful drivers on the road and ........ All will be fine. But, you still will not have any fun. Bill 2 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I would like to add that many Land Cruiser owners add lots of heavy accessories like skid plates and racks, and install oversized tires. All these severely affect its towing ability, and wreck the fuel economy. If that term can even be applied to this series of (wonderful) trucks. How many mods have you done to yours, and what is your payload now? I found this, your original payload is actually pretty decent, it is higher than the LC200, but the tongue weight limit is really marginal for the LE2, which has about that much, on average. I hope this doesn’t sound too negative, I love mine. I just don’t think it tows the big Ollie very well. But when Armageddon arrives I will be glad to have it😬, at least until I can’t find enough gas to keep it going. John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Thanks for your very helpful info and advice. Now the question is do I get the LE2 and buy a new tow vehicle or just settle for a Casita? I'm leaning towards the LE2. I know they are vastly different trailers in many, many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, Wil said: Thanks for your very helpful info and advice. Now the question is do I get the LE2 and buy a new tow vehicle or just settle for a Casita? I'm leaning towards the LE2. I know they are vastly different trailers in many, many ways. If you haven’t crawled around in an Ollie, do so, you can use the See an Oliver link to find one reasonably close by, hopefully. Keep in mind that they are still varey rare, the newest hull numbers have just passed 1000. They truly are amazing to see in person. BTW, when I got mine, I had them delete the side graphics, but they also deleted the name stickers. For two years I had to constantly answer people who asked “Is that some kind of Casita?” After I put on those stickers, now they say, “oooh look, it’s an Oliver.”. Interesting. John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted February 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted February 8, 2022 As JED said, an Elite might be a solution for you. Our 2008, loaded for camping is just shy of 4000 lbs, with a tongue weight around 400. Similar floorplan to a Casita, but all the Oliver benefits of fiberglass molded furniture, aluminum frame, etc. A 2019 just posted for sale in classifieds. I've seen just a few sell this year. 1 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Even if the Land Cruiser is a nice vehicle and reasonable mileage I would question starting out with a 20 year old vehicle to use it for traveling and pulling a trailer. It would be a good second vehicle and used for that reason locally, have a breakdown on the road and the cost could become high dollar. I realize a Toyota is a top rated vehicle, but 20 years old could open up a bag of worms. trainman 2 2019 RAM 1500, 5.7 Hemi, 4X4, Crew Cab, 5'7" bed, Towing Package, 3.92 Gears. Oliver was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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