Mike and Carol

Priceless!

Indeed. It’s interesting that dealers are all over the map on weight. Throw in a WDH and there’s some wavering in what they say. My current Ram 2016 1500 does a fine job, and this 2020 Rebel should as well, it’s just hard to nail down the truth!

How does a WDH affect payload capacity, if at all? If I have 600 lbs of tongue weight and use the Andersen hitch, does any of the “weight distribution” affect the cargo number?

My Ram 1500 has been a good tow vehicle. Half tons will work.

You can sleep either way. Some put the head of the bed at the kitchen. We’ve done both. Either way, we just put a pillow behind and recline against the pantry or counter and watch.

That’s interesting. I wonder if the quad cab long bed is configured that much differently than the crew cab short bed.

Yes, we do this all the time!

Yep. Same here. Especially the getting older part.

I think at 1165 lbs the Rebel would work. You’ve been towing with your Raptor for a while!

There are two stickers. A VIN sticker and a tire sticker. Cargo weights don’t match. Confusion!

Well, I’ve been scratching for a while and Carol noticed months ago. So, the cure to the itch has had time to develop! Besides, she really liked that truck.

I agree. He wasn’t talking about changing the VIN sticker, just checking to see if anything could be done about the tire sticker. The young sales guy got an education because he didn’t understand that tongue weight counted against total weight. The senior guy gave him a detailed explanation and confirmed my explanation. I told him I was surprised more buyers don’t ask the same questions.

The Ram VIN sticker had a higher weight, don’t remember exactly. It would have been acceptable. The tire sticker had the significantly lower weight. I’m sure the Rebel suspension is similar to the Raptor. Maybe I should wait for the Rebel TRX. Supercharged 6.2L. 😳 Rumor is it will be available late 2020.

Yep. I’ve got well over 50K miles towing my Oliver with my current Ram. No problems!

My dealer seemed to think it could be changed which is why he went to Ram Corporate. He had some kind of POC there. I’ll update one way or another when I find out.

It is a 2020 model that they just received. The Ram door sticker is higher, but the tire sticker was lower at 1165 lbs.

The PW is tempting. If I could get the split tailgate I would be tempted more - the bed is high enough to reach into I would need a step stool all the time. Opening the tailgate out instead of down would help. Also don’t like the fact the PW only comes with a front bench seat. We like buckets with the increased console storage. Still looking....

I resisted just swapping out tires. The senior guy agreed and that’s why they are waiting on Ram to respond. If new tires increase the weight then the dealer wants a new tire load sticker to keep everyone good. I was surprised that the PW was so low. I told them that both trucks are worthless for towing if you can’t put anything in the bed.

I’ve got the itch to get a new truck. I really like the Ram 1500 Rebel and have been looking for one with all the options I want/need. Online, I found one a couple hours away in Austin, negotiated a good price and drove up yesterday to potentially buy it. We took it for a drive and really liked it. Unfortunately, when I checked the Tire Load sticker it had max cargo at 1165 lbs. I told my young sales guy that wasn’t enough and I couldn’t buy it. He was a bit perplexed and fetched a senior sales guy, also an RVer, and he agreed. He called Ram corporate and was told it was the off-road tires they use (Goodyear Wrangler). In the meantime, we jumped into a Ram 2500 Power Wagon and took it for a drive. Nice. Same issue, though. Sticker said max cargo of 1235 lbs. Same tires. The dealer wants to replace the tires on the Rebel with higher load rated off-road tires and is waiting for word from Ram corporate. Fun! Mike

The AC is loud. We avoid using it whenever we can. If the temperature isn’t too high we open windows and use the fan. We also avoid camping in Texas and other hot locations in the summer unless we’re on our way to cooler and higher locations. I don’t recall any injuries due to sharp edges on doors or cabinets. We don’t full time but are out for a month or two at a time. We spend a lot of time outside and generally haven’t felt cramped for space. There have been a few times over the past few years when we’ve been stuck in bad weather and got a little anxious for more space. But, in general, it’s plenty big enough for us!

Phil, Merry Christmas to you and the entire Oliver staff!

I’ll check out the Blackstone the next time I’m camping shopping. I keep waiting for my Weber Q to wear out and it looks like I’ve got a long wait!

Congrats on your order! You’ll have something to think about and plan for as you go through the Wyoming winter. Welcome to the Oliver family! Mike

We did too. Great products and easy to work with.

We’ve never had a leak from our windows. Before removing windows try cleaning the tracks to see if that solves any leak issue. Mike