JackStraw Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Wondering if my 2026 4Runner (full-time 4WD, non-hybrid) using weight distribution hitch, and with 700 lbs of CCC left (after passengers, gear, etc) can reasonably tow an Elite 1 Platinum Pkg in mountainous terrain, fully loaded with water, propane, food, gear, etc (but staying below GVWR some)? (for instance I-70 from Denver to Grand Junction, or Beartooth Highway US-212 from Yellowstone to Red Lodge, or Trans Canada/Iceflow Hwys from Calgery to Jasper, and the like) By reasonable I mean adequate. Is it sensible, prudent for safety and wise for vehicle longevity?
DavePhelps Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago This is always a difficult question to answer as an "adequate" towing experience means different things to different people. Your 4Runner will be on the edge of safe towing in my opinion. You will be always having to worry about payload (895+ pounds?) Count on your tongue weight for a fully loaded Elite 1 being at least 400 lbs. Then add passenger weight, hitch weight, cargo weight, and any other add ons. Next, the 4Runner has a relatively short wheelbase which hinders stability, especially in wind. Braking on long mountainous descents will be harder and much scarier as the small displacement turbo gas engine in the 4Runner will not be able to deliver much vacuum braking (not like compression braking in a diesel) and you will be on your brakes a lot more. In fact, I've read turbo gas engines produce less vacuum braking than naturally aspirated gas engines due to their comparitively smaller displacement and lower compression ratios. The Oliver1 is a small trailer, but heavy for its size. You can try it and see how it goes, but every person I know who started out with a light TV eventually got at least a 1/2 ton truck/SUV or more. I tow my Elite 1 with a 3/4 ton truck and just love it. No drama, just a peaceful driving experience. You also need to consider how your TV would handle an emergency like a flat tire, or an animal running out in front of you, not to mention all the jack wagon drivers on the road these days. The Inter-Mountain West you describe as your target area is great country, but can be challenging for towing. One last item that comes to mind is that your range will be pretty limited with only a 19 gallon gas tank. Some things to ponder.... It's a great vehicle, but you'll be running it at its limit. My 2 cents! Good luck! Dave 2 2015 Oliver Elite 1, Hull 107 2025 GMC Sierra HD 2500 AT4, 6.6 L8T (gas)
Steve Morris Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Unless the new 4Ruuner has a *lot* more oomph than my2016 4.0 six cylinder, I’d say nope! You’ll be at or near cargo capacity with the back of the 4R empty. Mine was woefully underpowered with a 3000 pound trailer. I’m currently in a V8 200 series Land Cruiser, and “adequate” is generous with the EII trailer. I’d never go near the western mountains. Maybe switch up to a V8 Tundra or Sequoia? Friends tow their EI with the new Tundra with zero issues. Edited 2 hours ago by Steve Morris 2 ----- Steve - Northern Ohio, USA Wandering around on occasion, always lost. 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser - 2023 Oliver Elite II Twin Hull #1360 “Curiosity” Facebook - Instagram Camped in Curiosity = Green —— Visited with Curiosity = Gray
Rolind Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago We used to tow a 16’ Airstream Basecamp with a second gen 4wd crew cab Tacoma. We made several trips west to Moab and the mountains were a grunt. The truck was underpowered and I eventually had to add an axillary trans cooler to maintain acceptable trans temps going uphill. Just bc you can doesn’t mean it will be fun. All the above points are also correct, fuel range, braking downhill etc. 1 Robert and Cheryl, Louisville, KY, Legacy Elite II 2023 Hull #1390 Oliphino, TV F250 Tremor
Hokieman Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago (edited) I own a 2026 4-Runner, and I used to own an Elite 1. Even if the numbers indicate it’s possible, I wouldn’t recommend it. Edited 56 minutes ago by Hokieman Typo 2 “Ramble” - 2021 Legacy Elite II #797; 2020 Ford F-250. Former owner of 2019 Oliver Legacy Elite #431. Blairsville, GA
jd1923 Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago 4 hours ago, JackStraw said: Wondering if my 2026 4Runner (full-time 4WD, non-hybrid) 2026 meaning you just bought it? Thinking of buying it? Is it true all 2026 4Runners have 2.4L 4-cylinder engines? Wow! We had an older 4Runner with the 3.4 v6. Sold it for a GX with leather and the 4.7 v8. We never even towed with it, but it needed more power just around town! If possible ditch the idea (or get the dealer to take it back) and get a 5.7L v8 Tundra, any half-ton American truck, or the midsize trucks with special towing packages. OTT claims the Elite is 3700 dry weight, 5K GVWR and 370 LB tongue weight. Doable yes, reasonable no. The stock 4Runner is made for suburban driving with some gear, occasional dirt roads. The little engine is certainly not made for towing and will wear quickly as well as the drivetrain and suspension parts. Another point I always make is the very, very short wheelbase. The WDH will help, but tail wagging the dog for sure! Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins!
Moderators SeaDawg Posted 12 minutes ago Moderators Posted 12 minutes ago Legally, you sure can. Realistically, you may be super anxious and unhappy in mountain passes. Not sure on the specs of your 2026. I like a TV with weigh exceeding the trailer, and excess towing capacity. We towed our Elite home from Hohenwald to Florida with our Vilvo xc90. It was fine. Towing to Asheville, through Green River Gorge, we wete definitely in the slow lane, and wishing for more power. Volvo weighed around 6000 lbs, trailer probably 4900. We've been happy towing it with a half ton. Is the 4 runner built on a truck chassis? Not familiar with them. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good.
Hokieman Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, SeaDawg said: Is the 4 runner built on a truck chassis? Yes, it’s built on the Tacoma chassis. It’s a light vehicle. The 2026 non-hybrid has a 2.4L turbocharged engine, which works just fine as my wife’s grocery getter. “Ramble” - 2021 Legacy Elite II #797; 2020 Ford F-250. Former owner of 2019 Oliver Legacy Elite #431. Blairsville, GA
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