carpenter Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM My LiFePo4 batter bank is at roughly 55% soc. It is the 3 battery lithionics set up with 360ah. I went to use the convection oven on microwave setting to warm up my coffee this morning and it will only run for 30 seconds or so before the xantrex beeps and throws code 1. The draw on the microwave should not exceed the available charge in the battery to run for 1 minutes to warm up coffee. I made sure to turn off all other items such as the anti freeze on my truma before using the microwave. This is the second time this has happened, the last time I was roughly 60% on soc. 2022 elite 2 if that gives you any more information. Thank in advance for any input.
Steph and Dud B Posted Wednesday at 03:36 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:36 PM It's possible your SOC is out of calibration. Have you ever run the batteries all the way down to shutoff then recharged them to full? 2 Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999:
jd1923 Posted Wednesday at 07:33 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:33 PM 4 hours ago, carpenter said: I went to use the convection oven on microwave setting to warm up my coffee this morning and it will only run for 30 seconds or so before the xantrex beeps and throws code 1. The draw on the microwave should not exceed the available charge in the battery to run for 1 minutes to warm up coffee. I made sure to turn off all other items… There must be 10+ threads in the last two years on the 3KW Xantrex shutting down and I’m not saying search vs. posting. Please everybody always feel free to ask any question! 😎 It’s usually something re low voltage cutout. Likely you need to run through setup configuration to lower this number. Experienced Xantrex owners may chime in otherwise, search for ‘Xantrex’ from the forum home page and you should find instructions for changing this parameter. Also 50% SOC is not LOW with LiFePO4 batteries! We have a Victron inverter with 900 Ah. The Victron allows for this, since we can run our A/C AND the microwave (oven) with SOC <20%! Both the inverter and batteries have low voltage cutoff protection. I’ve never read here re Lithionics cutting out. The Victron inverter never cuts out. There are only Xantrex cutoff issues. Also it’s not your microwave given it runs long when plugged into shore power. Check your Xantrex manual and their Tech Support if necessary. 3 Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins!
jd1923 Posted Wednesday at 07:37 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:37 PM 3 hours ago, Steph and Dud B said: It's possible your SOC is out of calibration. Have you ever run the batteries all the way down to shutoff then recharged them to full? Is this safe, Dudley? I’ve never let ours run much below 20% SOC or in the teens. I always thought bringing SOC to 100% and adding Float charge for another 24 hours should calibrate SOC% at 100%. Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins!
Snackchaser Posted Wednesday at 08:29 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:29 PM As @jd1923 said, the Lithionics should reset itself if the batteries are kept fully charged while not in use. The new firmware also helps with this by making corrections at various charge states. It’s worth updating them. The Xantrex Code 1 is a voltage issue, it means the inverter isn’t getting enough voltage from the batteries while the microwave runs. This isn’t necessarily because of low SOC, it’s more likely a poor connection somewhere in the heavy battery cables. Think of it like a like old car with corroded battery posts, everything works fine until you try to turn the engine over and the connections can’t handle the heavier starting current. There are some easy checks you can try. Make sure the inverter’s low-battery cutoff is not set higher than 12.1 volts per Oliver’s recommendation for Lithionics batteries, and that the battery type is set to lithium. Some owners have found that software updates changed these settings. The Victron is a different design, but not necessarily better. In this case, when the Xantrex trips, it’s warning us there could be a problem. A Victron with default settings would keep running while a bad connection heats up, until the battery’s BMS protection shuts everything down, including the lights! Although Victron uses load compensated cutoff, owners should also check their low-battery settings. The factory defaults are very low, and they should be set per their battery maker’s recommendations. I've done some fair research into the Victron, and unless you also opt for an expensive Cerbo based system, I believe it's not a better upgrade over the Xantrex. Another easy test is to watch the voltages from the SeeLevel panel and Xantrex display, then start the microwave. Note each display’s voltage before starting and just before the inverter trips. If the SeaLevel (battery voltage) stays about 13 V, but the Xantrex drops to about 12 V, then there is a voltage drop (poor connection) in the wiring between the batteries and the inverter. If they both drop together, then the batteries may be weak or not sharing the load evenly. The 300 amp breakers internal resistance is a an easy first test. Put a DC voltmeter across the terminals with a full load (while running the micro). Anything over 0.1V across the two posts is too much internal resistance. You can also use an infrared thermometer to look for warm (poor) connections after the inverter trips, or run a smaller load, such as a heater on low. It might not be enough load to trip the inverter, but enough to warm a poor connection. Don’t forget to look at the grounds! Of course it might be something else altogether, and there are other voltage tests that can isolate the problem. This is a good start to help narrow it down. Let us know what you find. Cheers, Geoff 4
Steph and Dud B Posted Wednesday at 11:25 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:25 PM 3 hours ago, jd1923 said: Is this safe, Dudley? It is what was recommended by Lithionics: What is SOC Drift and how to avoid it? : Lithionics https://share.google/oh46MD3Ckxst17rsU 2 hours ago, Snackchaser said: As @jd1923 said, the Lithionics should reset itself if the batteries are kept fully charged while not in use. The new firmware also helps with this by making corrections at various charge states. It’s worth updating them. I was aware that Lithionics had updated firmware that added that function to their *external* BMS batteries but haven't heard about it for the internal BMS batteries yet. "Older versions of Lithionics Batteries do not currently have the automated Usable Ah calibration feature but will receive similar firmware update in the future to enable it." I have firmware version 2.1.11 1 Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999:
Steph and Dud B Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM Reading through the Lithionics document again, it seems like those of us with internal BMS are supposed to run the battery down to 0% SOC to trigger the calibration. However, those with the V9 external BMS can run down to 10% to achieve the same thing. Does everyone else read it that way? That does make me uncomfortable and I would definitely like to have the new firmware available for my internal BMS batteries. Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999:
Snackchaser Posted Thursday at 06:26 AM Posted Thursday at 06:26 AM 6 hours ago, Steph and Dud B said: Does everyone else read it that way? I read it somewhat differently. Lithionics does recommend fully charging the batteries periodically to keep the SOC reading accurate. In the SOC drift document you linked, they cleverly compare it to a leaking bucket with opaque walls. You can’t see the level, so you have to fill it to the top now and then to know where it stands. Charging the battery to a true 100% (not 99%) resets the SOC to a full bucket. However, as the battery ages, its amp-hour capacity decreases (the bucket gets smaller). You can recalibrate the bucket size using a fairly complex procedure to fully charge then discharge the battery. I don’t think many folks do that, and IMO it’s not necessary for most Oliver owners. Unless of course there is gross error, say if the battery shuts off while the app still shows 20% or more. The firmware updates aren’t so straightforward either. In the internal BMS firmware, Lithionics added, then rolled back, corrections for large SOC errors because they weren’t precise enough and could make readings worse in parallel battery banks like ours. There still appears to be an automatic correction at the 10% point in some internal BMS models, but it's unclear which ones. The newer external BMS module actually makes corrections at a number of points during discharge. Good stuff! Cheers, Geoff 1
jd1923 Posted yesterday at 12:31 AM Posted yesterday at 12:31 AM (edited) On 11/4/2026 at 1:29 PM, Snackchaser said: The Victron is a different design, but not necessarily better. In this case, when the Xantrex trips, it’s warning us there could be a problem. A Victron with default settings would keep running while a bad connection heats up... I'd rather an inverter shut down ONLY when there is a problem and have performance in carrying a load when there isn't an issue. Was running our DC-DC charger today, so I turned on the water heater to create a load. Then just to see the inverter at capacity, I set the Emeril Air Fryer at 400F and kicked it ON too! The screen shot shows both running without error messages or shutdown; -270A net for -3290W on the 3KVA (2400W) Victron Multiplus II. Voltage was down to 12.17V where just the minute before the test it was 13.53V. Pretty cool the Victron Multiplus II can produce power without overloading at near 150% of its advertised spec. No worries, go ahead and run two major appliances when needed. 😎 Edited yesterday at 08:08 AM by jd1923 Chris & John in Prescott, AZ | 2016 EII #113 | '01 Ram 2500 Cummins!
John Dorrer Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) This sounds like the inverter breaker has gone bad, or tripped. This happened to us twice on our 2022. The last time we tried to heat a bowl of oatmeal while boondocking, inverter on, and after 30 seconds things shut down. Oliver changed systems in around 2024 and went to a large fuse. They didn't have any at our service visit. I bought one, and when I went to install I found the cable at the breaker, loose, the cable ends were pitted. This was totally on me as I didn't check the bolts like I should have. Here is the safe sequence, turn off solar, turn off the inverter breaker located under the street side bed at the front next to the inverter. Restore in reverse. Make sure you aren't plugged into shore power. It is also possible the breaker tripped. That happened on day 2 of owner ship and Oliver walked me through resetting it. When it happened 3 months later Oliver sent me one under warranty. I just turned everything off and checked the bolts. Be careful. That is a high voltage area. Edited 14 hours ago by John Dorrer Updated Comment 2 John & Susan Dorrer, 2013 F250, 6.2 gasser, 4x4, 2022 Legacy Elite 2, twin beds, Hull #1045, Jolli Olli -
John Dorrer Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Here is what you should look for under the street side bed, near the front and next to the actual inverter. 1. Make sure it hasn't tripped 2. Make sure the wires are bolted tight. John & Susan Dorrer, 2013 F250, 6.2 gasser, 4x4, 2022 Legacy Elite 2, twin beds, Hull #1045, Jolli Olli -
Snackchaser Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 16 hours ago, jd1923 said: Pretty cool the Victron Multiplus II can produce power without overloading at near 150% of its advertised spec. No worries, go ahead and run two major appliances when needed. Jd, nice test! The inverter was carrying both loads, roughly 3,000–3,300 W AC after losses. The 3,290 W DC on the shunt side was before inverter losses. That’s about 125–135% of the Victron’s 2,400 W continuous rating. Impressive, though a short test doesn’t show it can hold that load over its continuios rating for long. For comparison, the Xantrex Freedom is rated 3,000 W continuous at 104°F (the Victron is 2,200 W at the same temperature), so the Xantrex would carry that same load within its continuous rating. Where the Victron has a debatable edge, is with the low-voltage cutoff. At 12.17 V, a Xantrex set to the recommended 12.1 V would likely trip, especially with any extra wiring resistance, while the Victron’s lower load-compensated cutoff voltage keeps going. That’s the real design difference. But keep in mind that Lithionics batteries shut themselves off at 12.0 V, and other batteries are in that close range. The Xantrex at 12.1 V trips first and leaves the 12 V lights on, while an inverter with a low cutoff runs until the battery shuts everything down. You’re a great ambassador for Victron, and I agree they make excellent equipment. Its higher efficiency and PowerAssist are nice features, and its heavy transformer handles surges well, which is also why it weighs about twice as much. Both can briefly surge to about double their rating. But I’m reluctant to recommend a Victron inverter replacement over the Xantrex for the typical Oliver owner’s use profile, particularly because of the controls. Without the more expensive Cerbo system, Victron’s optional display is fairly basic, and the Bluetooth needs a separate dongle. The Xantrex has a nicer graphical display with built-in bluetooth. I personally prefer a display with switches over an app, and I think most folks want the panel convenience to switch the inverter off when not in use to conserve power. I just think folks should fully understand the differences to make an informed decision, and I think that Oliver made the right decision to choose Xantrex in the first place. Cheers! Geoff 2
John Dorrer Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago As I stated, I don't believe this has anything to do with the actual Xantrex Freedom 3000. The inverter breaker has been a PIA and that is why Oliver switched to a large fuse. I have chosen to live with the breaker for now. I carry 2 spares. After running our Lithonics batteries down to 50% and shutting everything down for the winter, I put a wrench to the nuts and found everything tight. If I was to make an upgrade, I would make some of the changes David Austin made. He did a complete system upgrade from AGM/wet batteries to Epoch Lithium Batteries. He has a very detailed post on this. John & Susan Dorrer, 2013 F250, 6.2 gasser, 4x4, 2022 Legacy Elite 2, twin beds, Hull #1045, Jolli Olli -
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