DaveAndBecky_NorthernMI Posted April 9, 2022 Posted April 9, 2022 An interesting study about lithium battery life and storage. https://diysolarforum.com/resources/calendar-aging-and-lifetimes-of-lifepo4-batteries-and-considerations-for-repurposing.263/ 1 1 2022 Oliver Elite II Hull#1047 "Saunter" 2022 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi
CnC Posted April 9, 2022 Posted April 9, 2022 There's a reason battery companies don't warranty them forever... Additionally, not all devices on the same system necessarily "see" SOCs values the same. Charlie. Arizona | 2020 Oliver Elite II Twin bed Hull #617 | 2021 Ram 1500 e-Hemi 4x4
Moderators Mike and Carol Posted April 10, 2022 Moderators Posted April 10, 2022 Interesting and educational article. Thanks for posting. Mike Texas Hill Country | 2016 Elite II #135 | 2020 Ram 2500 6.7L
John E Davies Posted April 10, 2022 Posted April 10, 2022 Has anyone read the actual thesis? The abstract shown doesn’t say anything new or exciting, it is common knowledge. I would be very interested to see charts showing the rate of degradation compared to temperature and SOC. If 100 degrees and 100% SOC is bad, how much worse is 120 degrees? 140? It can get toasty hot inside that box, as delivered. I do try to park with my battery box facing north and/ or pick a site that is shaded after noon when the temperatures are expected to be extreme. And I keep the batteries well below 100%. If I lived and routinely camped in the arid SW desert states I would probably pass on lithium batteries entirely. EDIT, never mind, you can download the entire thesis on the History tab, it is 197 pages so it may take a while to digest the information. I will try to read it when I have a lot more time. I am off to grease jack actuator gears…. https://diysolarforum.com/resources/calendar-aging-and-lifetimes-of-lifepo4-batteries-and-considerations-for-repurposing.263/version/463/download John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT.
John E Davies Posted April 10, 2022 Posted April 10, 2022 Here is the next paragraph of the abstract. “Utilizing the collected degradation data from the calendar aging experiments and manufacturer’s cycling data a lifetime degradation model was produced to simulate the extent of aging from different geographic locations and to compare which degradation mode had the most influence over a ten year lifespan. The model was validated using additional data not included in the non- linear degradation model and the results tabulated using real-world temperature and drive cycle data. According to the simulations, calendar aging plays a significant role in the loss of capacity within the battery pack, due to the battery pack not being utilized on a constant basis in the vehicle. Incorporating it into the simulation resulted in the battery pack reaching its EOL much sooner than the targeted consumer requirement of ten years.” 😳😤 My bold highlight…. that is not good for an RV application that is not a full timer. FYI the batteries studied were for electric vehicles, not trailers, so the conclusions may not be 100% accurate for Ollies.. John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT.
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