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I visited Mesa Verde and Grand Canyon National Parks in Colorado, Arches, Bryce, Canyonlands, Zion and Cedar Breaks in Utah. I camped two nights in a campground at Bryce with fellow Olliver owners Stan and Carol Moyer. I've attached a few photos of the Ollie and the VW Touareg TDI tow vehicle. Discovered that the Touareg is a pretty good off-road vehicle. Followed a Jeep Wrangler for about 40 miles on the jeep trails in Canyonlands. Don

Buzzy, I agree with you. While I'd love to camp in the Ollie without ever dumping the grey/black tanks, I don't find the task to be terribly onerous. I purchased a clear Campco sewer hose adapter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016V2JMBS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and upgraded my slinky hose after the sewer hose that came with the Ollie came apart as I was preparing to dump-luckily I hadn't opened the valve yet! I've traveled 4,500 miles and camped over 40 nights in my Oliver since picking it up in Tennessee in March, 2016. I have only waited in line once and then I was only behind one camper. I don't like to rush the process, so I plan when and where I'll dump. I like to fill the black tank about 3/4 full of fresh water at least twice after dumping the black and grey tanks. The clear adapter allows me to see when I've done a good job of emptying and cleaning the black tank. I haven't had any odor issues. I try to use campground toilets and showers when available and I've very stingy with water when washing dishes, etc. There may be better alternatives, but the standard toilet, black/grey tanks and dump valves serve their purpose. Don

I have the VIN# but do not know what or how to find the hull#

So now I am thinking about a standard cargo van for a tow vehicle. The GMC or Chevy 2500 can be built with a 6.0 V8 or even a diesel. It has a 10000 lb. towing capacity. The attraction is that one can customize it to any degree so I would add some ergonomic recliners, a big screen TV, roof air, cassette potty, beer fridge, and call it the Family room...a place to relax and watch TV, read, etc. Then retire to the Ollie for sleep. We just returned from a trip to Dallas without Ollie and it would have been great to have some creature comforts on board. My thought is as long as we must have a tow vehicle why not make it part of the living experience.

I suspect, with a few modifacations, the black tank might be easily modified to take the sink water. The shower water would likely be another story, though much more possible, than, say, retrofitting the kitchen sink to flow uphill to the black tank.... The problem is, the Ollie has a "marine bath." Like most marine baths (even the large head in our sailboat, with a separate shower compartment), there's a curb to create drainage, and a stepup to the toilet to allow some space for the black tank. And, the inlet to the black tank is directly beneath the toilet. Who wants another nonfactory inlet, subject to leaking? In many of the big stickbuilt rvs, (actually, all the ones I've owned and rented over the years), the toilet is floor mounted, and the shower is elevated. The shower water could easily be diverted to the black, and maybe is, in a few cases. The composting Nature's Head is, from my conversations with the reps, much more popular so far with boats than rvs. Why? Finding a legal pumpout station is much more difficult with a sailboat/houseboat than finding a dump station with an rv, in my humble opinion. We never have a tough time finding a dump station with the Ollie. Special trip (raise the anchor, go to a marina, etc.) with the boat is another story... It's true, most of us who have purchased Olivers are likely to be lifetime owners. I suspect we are. But who knows? We're in for eight years so far... but? If our trailer were not plumbed for a typically desired toilet, and we wanted a Nature's Head instead, we'd be forced to sell to a really narrow market in today's world if we decided to sell. Not ideal. I think Oliver is wise right now to "duplicate" systems with extra plumbing and a black tank, inoperable, or perhaps linked only to the sink. At least you'll never be stuck with a really narrow resale market if you order the composting toilet. By the way, when we looked at the Nature's Head, I think it was about $950, install it yourself. If that's still true today, I think Oliver is offering a great price at $800. Sure, you don't get the usual Thetford. But you get everything else, and a complete, pro installation with your new Nature's Head. My 2 cents, and probably only worth that much. Sherry