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We began our search for a quality trailer with Airstream as it seemed the logical place to start. As I began researching, we were quickly dissuaded by owner reports of poor workmanship with many repairs being necessary right off the lot. I could understand some of these, were we talking about a $15-20K entry level trailer, but not a $75K+ icon. After I reached beyond the beauty of the Airstream interior, I decided one big problem was getting in the way: We weren't willing to pay a premium price for poor quality control and an obvious lack of care for the ultimate owner. My final judgment

I just finished reading all these posts. All I have to say in response is that I am so very, very happy we made our $2,500 down payment back in September! Our LE II is scheduled for delivery on May 17. So thankful I found Oliver TTs before pulling the trigger on the Airstream with which I was temporarily & insanely enamored. I would have been devastated to discover Oliver AFTER buying an Airstream!

All I can add is this: A good and trusted friend of mine owns an RV repair and service business and has been doing it for many, many years. When I came to him asking about our first purchase, I explained and showed him the literature on the Olivers. He was in fact at the time working on an Airstream. He HATES them. He said that the beauty of an Airstream is "skin deep" and even that's questionable. He showed me the interior of the walls construction which was abysmal. When I finally took delivery of our Oliver, I had him come over and inspect it and to say he was impressed is

SherMica, On your pick-up day, ask whoever gives you your walk thru if you can use their parking lot after your orientation to Maneuver, Backup, Make Turns, just to get a feel on how your entire package handles, especially stopping. Maybe ask them for a "Backing up lesson...with you as driver", just make sure your copilot is okay with a stranger in the cab with you... If you have never towed anything before, just take your time when you drive (i.e. no DRIVING FASTER than you can react) have your eyes sweep Straight ahead, Left & Right. And if no Topper on the TV, then you can

A lot of used Airstreams on the market? I kid. Airstreams are great, but different. They offer a classic style, comfort, great finishes, larger size, and floor plan options. I’d be proud to own one. An Oliver, on the other hand, offers a style and comfort of its own; but more importantly, it offers practicality. It was our choice, and we’re just as proud. It’s up to each buyer to decide which one meets her or his wants and needs the best. Frankly, it’s pretty amazing that a little startup from Hohenwald, TN is even given consideration as an equal to an absolute giant like Airst

Hi everyone. I’m newly retired from the US Army after more than 20 years. I don’t have an Oliver yet, but I’m saving and preparing to have one in the next year or so.

When I first saw the title of this post, I thought I’m not taking this bait, it screamed trouble to me. It’s kind of like the old Oscar Meyer Wiener commercial when the kids sang "my dog's better than your dog". And it also reminded me of the advice my father gave me "never resist the opportunity to keep you mouth shut". But when it turned funny; I couldn’t help myself. When I bought my Oliver, the previous owner didn’t call it a wet bath, he called it the bidet option and it made sense to me, after all I had never used a bidet. Full disclosure: at our sticks and bricks house, th

As a retired firefighter, and fire origin and cause investigator for more than 40 years, I am somewhat paranoid as to what can cause fires. Candle fires have paid for my Oliver - they can cause fires. For insurance companies, I have investigated many fires caused by candles, for which I have been paid well. A candle has been recalled, https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2021/ADCO-Recalls-Candles-Due-to-Fire-and-Burn-Hazards-Sold-Exclusively-at-Dollar-Tree that can cause a fire. Remember to be fire safe. This candle, and many like it, can get too hot which can cause the glass container to break. Whe

I've lurked now for several years on this forum, and over the last year have even begun sneaking in some questions. I've been highly impressed with the knowledge, advice, suggestions, and ideas; the constructive forum community has contributed to our selecting an LE2. And now that we are getting closer to finalizing our order, I thought I'd send in a more formal introduction. My first RV in the late 1970s was a Job Corps bus (a shorty school bus); since then my wife Susan and I have backpacked, tent- and car-camped, owned 2 Airstreams (1965 Globetrotter and a 1966 Caravele), and over the l

I will be checking the logs and server to see what's going on first thing in the morning. Thanks for letting me know!

SherMica, The cell booster brand is SureCall, a copy/spinoff of an older model WeBoost. I have an updated WeBoost and I wish I had not wasted the money. I have yet to get better reception with the booster. If your phone is new (less that a few years old) it uses MIMO (Multi In Multi Out) antennas built into the phone. A booster only uses one in and one out, which most of the time diminishes the signal. Here is a link to a Internet Resource Center YouTube video on the subject. MIMO vs Boosters: Do Cellular Boosters Provide the Best Signal & Data Performance? - YouTube

You mentioned persons dinking around your truck- my reference was to that. Perhaps they were not riff raff - my bad. Please take my comments in the manner intended: a contrast to people dinking around in your gear and the bandits - raccoons,- assaulting our campsite in ARK. They were definitely - riff raff!! One should not make assumptions about others - it is a highly mobile world, my time in TN pales in comparison with the other places I once called home. I've resided a substantial amount time above 7k', flat it was not. Montana is one of my fav's. All in good natured inten

We recently sold our Airstream, not due to a lack of satisfaction or suitability, but due to discovering Oliver trailers. A walk thru of an owners LE II while we were camping in our Airstream sealed the deal. Once we were home from the camping trip, the Airstream was listed, and sold within 3 hours. We’re planning options, and looking forward to ownership of a LE II twin.

And the Oliver also allows the use of a bike rack between the tow vehicle and the Oliver's tongue jack.

As always - Oliver owners have great advice - from real world experience. I have always thought the Airstream interiors were attractive and well laid out - livable. But in the end - depending on your intended usage - merely lipstick on a pig. My advice - and expensive - go purchase the Airstream of your choice - live with it - use as you will. You may end up loving it and happy with the purchase. But - Don't spend a year- pulling it - the Airstream - all over the country- trying to boondock in places that are really cool and off the beaten path, only to eventually cozy up to a

Not to sidetrack the topic into all toilet talk, but can those who don't like the wet bath explain to me exactly what it is that bothers people? It's a genuine question - not trying to be snarky or anything. It's just not something that even crossed my or my wife's mind when we were looking, so I don't really get why it seems to be a big sticking point for other buyers. Is it that you feel like you'll have to dry off the toilet to use it, or you don't want to look at it, or does it just make the bath feel institutional? I'm wondering if the shower curtain that we installed makes the

We’ve been members of Harvest Hosts for two camping seasons now in our travels with our Oliver. Well worth the money. It’s been very useful for quick overnight stops on the way to our destinations, and some hosts have had a power hookup available. Some great overnight stops to see things that we otherwise would have missed out on if we had just done the Walmart or Cabela’s parking lot overnight stays. Nowhere near I40 but one example of a great HH stop is the Glenn Curtiss Aviation Museum in New York. This was one of my favorite HH stops. Otherwise a lot of wineries as HH stops. We di

Following this thread closely. There are a couple of areas beside the floor laminate, and several square feet of gelcoat along the outer wall below the dinette table, where a sloppy tech got floor adhesive and just ..... left it there. The latter is only visible with the table removed or I would have seen it at delivery. Idiot tech, and idiot me for not checking. It will not come off with any solvent or careful scraping, so I guess sandpaper is the only choice? That and the crookedly mounted rear window (visible on the outside) make my blood boil. But I admit that I am anal. Does this stu

We stayed at Monahans Sand Dunes State Park. It’s just off the freeway (I-20). Some of the sites were hard to get into and there is a lot of sand, everywhere! It was good for an overnight. We’ve not stayed at Lake Colorado. The annual pass is a good idea.

FYI boondocking (and hunting, backpacking and other outdoor activities) is always a whole lot easier when you are located near Federal lands - BLM, Forest Service, BOR, COE, etc etc.. and to a much lesser degree, State lands. Unfortunately that does not include Texas; when it became a state in 1845 the government began selling off almost all of the 200,000,000 acres of public lands to pay for expenses, like a new Capital building. So most of those blank areas on the map, with the exception of designated parks, are privately owned. https://www.adventure-journal.com/2016/04/texas-as-model-f

The Fire TV stick works great in the trailer too. There is a USB connection on the back of the television to provides power. The Fire TV also requires internet to be of any use. I have both the Fire TV Stick and a Roku Stick Pus. The ROKU as a cleaner interface than the Fire stick (IMO) and supports screen sharing if you use IOS and/or MACOS devices, which is very handy. I like both but prefer the Roku. Both work great and do not require the inverter to be powered on to use them.

Here are few pix of my stainless counter top. It was upgraded after this pic with a barrier on the right side to prevent spills and a nicer faucet. The microwave cabinet was a very successful upgrade. It gave more counter space, a place for knives and utensils, a wine rack and a secure microwave that could not fall out of the cabinet. The microwave that came in my Ollie, tried to jump out of the cabinet twice.

The stainless steel counter, the kitchen fold down extension, and the 80/20 lagun mount were some of the most functional mods I've seen on the forum to date. I would have opted for stainless if Oliver offered it.

I would suggest that you never fly wind art or a flag of any kind while having an antenna deployed on your mast. The antenna itself will create enough deflection in the mast to affect the cellular performance. MiMo technology would certainly help, but why add to your problem with a moving antenna. And if you are in a cellular signal challenged area, you may not have the benefit of the latest cellular base station equipment suppling your signal. Mossey

SafeJack sells various bottle Jacks and accessories. I carry a basic 5 ton bottle jack and a frame cradle attachment to keep the jack from slipping off the frame jacking area.

I don't think that I've ever been concerned about theft, so much as it seemed like something I should be concerned about. I've never had a lock of any sort, but I have an oddball hitch that's probably better security anyway. And we have a Spot Trace that I still keep up the service on, though I often wonder why. My concern level - Likelihood of Catastrophic Loss: highway accident fire tornado theft mutant fiberglass eating termites

A mean junk yard dog tied to the wheel would be best. 😜

The x chock design wouldn't give SherMica any help, as she's buying a single axle Elite, but I could see that being of assistance in a couple ways with the Elite II. I'd probably invest in a good hidden GPS tracking device if I were nervous, and the usual locks that most of us get. The cable lock could be useful for other items, too. I do like the barking dog recording idea, though. 😄

At least a very cursory glance suggest "probably yes" as an answer as both are 3/8" thick. I'm making an assumption that 3/8" listed thickness of the Master Lock Python includes the outer coating as does the listed 3/8" of the Kryptonite cables, and I'm further assuming that the steel portion is likely also roughly 1/4" as the Kryptonite is and that both are rougly similarly tough steel. If that doesn't seem like enough, this cable lists a 1/2" thickness though as with the Master Lock Python the Amazon listing does not spec the actual braided cable's thickness. If you are al

I can see the $$$ adding up fast - If I were to purchase my 2018, in 2021, and add the tax - I'm over $80K.... And I would not be an Oliver owner. (we are barely in 2021) So you now wait almost a year for delivery??? A travel trailer - no matter how good - is not worth that to me - I strained (mentally) at what I paid in 2018. Add a nice TV - and your talking real money. I would be building my own Earth roamer. Seems I'm keeping mine - but any sale will reflect the new values. Rejoice Oliver owners - we made some portion of $5k this year - were you to sell. Whew - gold in t

John, For a place to stay, just off of I40, here's some campgrounds: Santa Rosa SP NM & Homolovi SP AZ. While camping at Homolovi SP AZ, we got to "Stand on the Corner at Winslow Arizona" and attend a car show:

Well, our deer are also better looking.

A falling branch wiped out our backup camera antenna recently. I found this replacement at etrailer.com (p/n PXXHD0006301R fits camera model WVCMS130AP, $21 plus tax and S/H). First experience with that site, fully satisfied with their prompt shipping and protective packaging. Hoping this info may help someone. - Brian

And it applies here. Thank you John...and others down the line. As for added windows to see the riff raff - it seems we don't camp in similar places. As Jim mentioned, the 4 legged bandits seem to be an issue at times. I appreciate your query Voyager, but as it is an oft repeated inquiry to this forum, sometimes we respond with amusement and fun replies. A wet bath is just that, don't like it, purchase something else, not enough height, similar. However, want to discuss the better options: LI v AGM, v wet cell, solar or not, Truma v suburban water warmer - fine - there is a

The airstream globetrotter 23fb is quite pretty. But, it would never work for me. We always seek out campsites with beautiful views, and some solitude. Back in the early days, I often posted photos showing the view from my big rear window, as most of those view campsites are back-in. The globetrotter 23fb devotes the best real estate in the trailer , the entire back end, to the bathroom. Which doesn't even have a tiny window to the view. What would be my view from the big front pano windows, lying in bed? The back of my truck. And that, only if I got up on my elbow, and twi

From previous posts I understand that the awning is a 16-foot version of the Girard model GG750. FYI, I called Girard about the two fabric options (standard is a vinyl material; "pro" is a canvassy sunbrella material called "Bravia") -- I was interested in longevity. Longevity, of course, depends on many factors, including sun exposure, humidity, conditions during storage, etc. I was told that the vinyl might last at least 3-6 years with "typical" usage (whatever that means, although the company is in Southern California); Bravia 5-8 or perhaps 10 years. Bravia is breathable; vinyl

Well, there isn’t any. The extra foot in width and slightly longer length gives the Airstream about 20 extra square feet of space. 20 square feet is literally 10 feet of counter space. So the real question is maybe what has Airstream done with all that extra square footage? And I think the answer is that generally they put it into amenities that, IMO, make the trailer more attractive and ‘livable’ than functional. More seating, more windows, etc. If you want to sit in your trailer and feel like you’re in a living room, then absolutely buy an airstream. But if functionality and practical

We ordered the end of August. Our trailer went into production on 12/21/20 and we have a pick up date of 02/15/21. It's getting close!

That means you didn't watch TV at all on your week+ journey home from Hohenwald? Bravo!!! 👍

I kind of abstractly understood this but now that I've towed hull #709 (Elite II) a little bit I'm quite happy with this too. I can see how it will be beneficial in many situations. I've not towed much but the prior trailers I *have* towed were out much wider at the wheels and it took a lot more attention to what was going on behind me while going forward. I'm OK with the bathroom being a very space efficient boat style design. All other things being equal I'd prefer the design aesthetic of the AS but all other things aren't equal. Dirt-road-worthiness (including not having

Thanks also to Ray and Susan, and to everyone else here for their contributions. My wife and I are retired, and we live in remote northwest Montana, wherein hail storms occur, the roads are rough, ground clearance matters, and boondocking is the rule, so the truth is, we've been leaning heavily towards the Oliver LE-II Twin side of things for some weeks now. Do I particularly like the bathroom and shower on the Oliver? Nope. Is the overall comfort factor higher on the Airstream? Yup. But there is little doubt that the Ollie is the best and 'right' decision for us. Now, it's just

All: some day I will look back on all this and laugh. I am already laughing at myself. Need a clue bat upside the head, I do. They probably sell clue bats on Amazon. Heh. I drive to pickup the Elite one in 10 days. The OTT people will be laughing too, I’m sure. “So, you’ve NEVER towed anything, have a new truck that can launch missiles, don’t understand your new truck’s features yet, and don’t know anything about hitches and couplers and receivers and locks. Well played!” Haha

I think that would be a good addition to the Oliver options list, honestly. We use our manual awning all the time. But window awnings on the street side would be very nice. Years ago, one owner played with the idea of making streetside awnings from solar panels, kind of dual function. He never did it, but youtube rver Tito did. It attaches with suction cups. Karen Luekens and her husband added an awning to the dinette window, a modified Carefree awning from Little House. At that time, Little House still did installs. I think they only ship parts to you now, and you ins

Shermica, I haven't read all the comments yet so this may have already been mentioned, at Texas State Parks there is a 14 day limit during one stay. Then you will have to move to another park. All the parks are pet friendly and are welcome on trails. However pets are not allowed in any park owned facility such as the headquarters office, cabins, restrooms, etc. Most parks we've stayed at have a lake or water feature, thus kayaking, fishing, canoeing, swimming, hiking trails, etc. Pretty much every camp site will have a table, fire ring and lantern pole. We've mostly stayed in the nor

A great big NO, do not transport one in any position but dead upright. You could maybe get away with a steep angle (not sideways) when it is completely stationary, but not in motion. Even if you drain the gas - and you should run the carb dry every time - the oil will maybe run out the breaher vent, and the engine mounting system is not designed to support weight in the “wrong” direction. If you don’t drain the gas, it will run out the carb, either into the cylinder head or through the paper air filter and onto the floor. At the very least a mess, at worst a fire hazard and it might maybe pos

A moving mast will not work well with a directional antenna. Think of a flashlight - the radio signal is focused. The width of the radio beam depends upon the design of the antenna. An omnidirectional antenna is less problematic on a moving mast, and will probably work fine. The radio wave pattern is dependent upon the installation and antenna design, also. An omnidirectional antenna sends the signal out in a 360 degree pattern, or at least that's the theory, but again dependent upon installation factors. The radio signal won't be as "intense" as with a directional antenna, but with a dir

Welcome Ajojo. I’m retired Army too... Hope this forum will be helpful to you as you go through the order process. I’d call the sales office and set up a factory tour, you can’t be too far! Mike

John I get what your saying. But if someone wants to take the time with tumbler pick tools or power cut off tool they are on a mission to steal certain items if they want it they will get it, I’ve said this on several posts Locks are a deterrent only. There are several ways if it was me I’d simply unbolt the basket and take the whole enchilada. 😳 You do the best you can and hope for the best.

There wasn't as of just after Christmas. They were supposed to open a ticket for me so I'd me notified when the fix is available. I haven't seen mail saying it was opened so thanks for the reminder to check with them on that.

I agree. We use our manual awning a lot. It's easy and simple. I personally would not want a power awning. A choice would be good.