KarenLukens

I mentioned the top feed to Jason when we picked up the trailer... As it is, I can see why they recommend to use antifreeze in the tank to winterize... We're giving our house to our niece for her and her kids, so we can go full-time in Goldilocks :) I'm going to check the angle of the exit line today, because if it's going up, then that will be the root cause for air to be sucked in as soon as the water hits the top of the port. If the pipe goes down it will gravity fill to the bottom of the port, so hopefully it's got enough play to move down :)

Sorry about the double pics but the whole post disappeared, so I had to copy, paste and usually put the pics in again... Not this time, go figure :) The bottom pic is a brighter pic of the same place. It is hard to see the water line... I saw the spelling errors above but don't want to have the page go blank again, so please forgive me for letting it go this time :) To me it looks like the water level is right at the top of the pipe, giving it just enough room to suck in air to the pump from the small gap being left open at the very top of the pipe. Reed

OK, I'm pulling the water tank fix over here to keep everything together. I've talked to Jason and they are looking into it on their end, and I'm going to start talking with them about a permanent fix. I have it worked out, I just need to get started. So you can see here where the water level is by the dark line on the side oif the tank. This is at 38% with the trailer perfectly leveled all the way around. Look center top of the pic, the tank is on the right. [attachment file=57538] Being, we were just filling the tank, we had our hands full... Karen held the flashlight and one end of the hook pole to hold the vent hose over, while I had the phone in hand for this pic, way down inside, while pushing the bottom of the hook pole into place and trying to get a good shot... So she could say, Smile :) ... We didn't have an extra hand to move the electrical cable out of the way to show the level in this next pic, but you can figure it out from the other. What it does show is where the water enters and exits the tank along with the level meter. Notice the water level if you can :) I will get a better pic in a few days. Threading and putting in a pic up tube will be easy, it's just getting everything out of the way to get to that fitting will take a bit of work. Also notice the water level in relation to the water pipe. Reed [attachment file=57541] So the disappearing post issue happens on the last post of a page... Take 3

OK, I'm pulling the water tank fix over here to keep everything together. I've talked to Jason and they are looking into it on their end, and I'm going to start talking with them about a permanent fix. I have it worked out, I just need to get started. So you can see here where the water level is by the dark line on the side of the tank. This is at 38% with the trailer perfectly leveled all the way around. Look center top of the pic, the tank is on the right. Being, we were just filling the tank, we had our hands full... Karen held the flashlight and one end of the hook pole to hold the vent hose over, while I had the phone in hand for this pic, way down inside, while pushing the bottom of the hook pole into place and trying to get a good shot... So she could say, Smile :) ... We didn't have an extra hand to move the electrical cable out of the way to show the level in this next pic, but you can figure it out from the other. What it does show is where the water enters and exits the tank along with the level meter. Notice the water level if you can :) I will get a better pic in a few days. Threading and putting in a pic up tube will be easy, it's just getting everything out of the way to get to that fitting will take a bit of work. Also notice the water level in relation to the water pipe. Reed

Excellent post Chixter :) We were that close to buying the 25fb ourselves but we needed the 4 season ability of either the Oliver or the Bigfoot. All 3 are good trailers and we made the right choice for us with Oliver, they stand behind everything and that says a lot :) On another note, I'm moving my works on the water tank over to our blog. I took pics tonight when it ran out at 38% Reed

The gray tank issue was an easy fix and something to look at when picking up your trailer. I really love ours and even though the fresh water tank is an issue, it can be made to work perfectly easy enough when being put together. Honestly, I wouldn't hold off on ordering because of the water issue because it's not a design flaw in the tank itself, it's just people not understanding how water systems are modified to make things work. The tank is already shimmed to tilt the water down and that isn't the problem. There's no pick-up tube being installed in any of the trailers and there hasn't been ever. Threading and putting in a pick-up tube is not a big deal when you have someone on hand that will make one and fit it in. I've dealt with water and steam all of my life, so to me it's an easy fix. But it's going to take some hand threading or machining to make the first one correct, then the numbers can be taken from it and it can be mass produced for each tank from there. The fact is, is that the Oliver shell is still better built than the competitions and the tanks and the way they have been put between the shells is a great design that also evens out the weight distribution. Reed

I fixed our gray tank problem over a month ago. It would drain down to 25% because the diamond plate was bent up. Now it drains to 6% quickly, and if you're on full hook ups, leveled out, in about 10 minutes it will all drain out now to 0%. You can read about that here at post 53462 - . . . http://olivertraveltrailers.com/topic/reed-karens-blog/#post-53462

There's basically 1/3 to almost 1/2 of the tank left full of water, I looked at it yesterday and it still being almost half full can easily be seen with a flash light... Then there's the ability to only add 16 gallons from empty before it runs out the overflow that makes it a no brainier :)

I talked with the guys on the floor at Oliver because they asked me if I had any ideas on how to fix the water tank problem and the solution is quite easy and pretty basic. But doing it after everything has been put in is going to be a pain because the fitting they put in needs to be removed and then the inside of the replacement fitting either machined or tapped on the inside to 3/8" pipe, so that the 3/8" pipe nipple will screw completely thru, still lock in place, and come out just inside the tank. You need an adjustable threader like pictured below, because you need to add a little extra room when machining the brass to get the right size at the beginning edge. Then it just needs a 3/8" x 90° with a short stub, modified then to fit through the hole that their 1/2" now modified pipe stub still screws in too... Then the short 3/8" brass stub after the 90° will act as the pick up tube. I looked at it last night when we ran out at 38% again... Just like tonight... And it will be a chore but it can be done... Doing it when it is being put in makes a lot more sense... I can do it in my sleep but it's still going to be working inside of an extremely confined space. I will try and film it so that it can then be passed on to Oliver. Reed

Karen here. I have TWO huge issues that make me regret paying $62,000+ and over $5000 in CA DMV taxes for my 2017 Lecacy Elite ll. OUR WATER TANK RUNS OUT AT 44% EVERY SINGLE TIME.@#$!×%&*!$# What I mean by that is at 44% the water from the faucets start sputtering, the water line starts shuttering and making a racket, the pressure drops drastically, the toilet water flushing is drastically reduced and if I am in the shower, hair full of shampoo and the water hits 44% I no longer have enough water and pressure to get the shampoo out and finish my shower. Reed has to go outside everytime at 44% to raise the front end so we can utilize the last 44% of the water. This also means the trailer is no longer level and the Dometic Refrigerator is now at risk of being damaged. It also means that when we are boondocking it drastically limits how long we can stay out or Reed has to take several trips in the car to fill up our water jugs to refill the Ollie above 44%. TO ME THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND I THINK OLIVER SHOULD CORRECT THIS IN MY RIG. Our $13,000 used 2010 Casita never did this. My second big gripe is that our kitchen drawers continue to open while traveling. This occurs on any road that has curves or bumps. And NO, Reed is not speeding when this occurs as someone implied on another thread. The first time it happed the drawers literally were on the floor when we stopped. Everything dumped out and broken drawers and hardware. Some drawers just had towels, others had cooking utensils, silverware and a frying pan. Oliver sent us new drawers but they still come open even after Reed has adjusted them all. We now have to take the seat cushions, put them on the floor and stack them against the drawers to keep them from opening while we are moving. THESE TWO ISSUES MAKE ME EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED AND WISHING WE HAD BOUGHT THE BIGFOOT. Bigfoot was my second choice becsuse I thought Oliver was better. The 3rd issue I have is that the igniter push button on my stove no longer works. So now I have to use a lighter to use my stove. I don't blame Oliver for this, they didn't make it. However, I need to now buy a better stove for Reed to replace. The 4th issue is I had to recaulk the bathroom around the shower pan because it was not done properly and water and dirt kept getting in the gaps creating a hassle to keep clean. My 5th issue is that one of the 12v ports only works intermittently, I pointed this out on day two to Oliver and they stuck a plug in it and said it works just fine. To me if you put the key in your car ignition and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't that is not fine. I use this port for my cpap because its at my head and it's frustrating as all get out when I put my mask on and it doesn't turn on and I have to keep pulling the plug out, reinsert it, wiggle it around over and over till it finally gets power again. No, it's not my cord, I know this because this doesn't occur when I use any other 12v port. I WAS THRILLED WE BOUGHT AN OLIVER. NOW I AM QUITE DISAPPOINTED.

Don't worry :) Becoming a trailer owner or RV owner of any kind will turn you into a plumber, electrician, truck driver, garbage man or is that a Waste Disposal Technician in no time... It's all part of Pee-wee's Big Adventure :)

The other thing is that the Pelican only fits in with the door opening up and away from the jack. It is a perfect fit :)

It's the 45 quart. It does fit perfectly, but so perfectly that I've got to modify the box to get to the drain cap. The Pelican is way better insulated then the Yeti. But the drain on the Yeti is easy to get too and it's a plug that just needs to be cracked open to drain. So that's my next project... Deciding the pros and cons for a drain, or put the Yeti back in there...

Yup, it's the frosted white glass now.

The port makes a big difference when putting the cover back on because you can put your arm into the hole and guide it into place and feel to make sure that the lip on the top of the cover goes into its slot. I like the 6" port because my arm fits right in :)

I don't put anything over the fan, but we do sometimes put a sweat shirt, robe, or something over the front door window if the sun is rising on that side. The windows all stay dark :)

One more thing is that I found that I can crack open the gray water valve and still close the compartment door with the 1" hose and it will also fit out the hole for the hinge on the back door, thru the diamond plate on the bottom, so the bumper door can stay closed also. I've thought about cutting a 4" hole in the diamond plate for my Rhinoflex to come out, so that I can leave that door closed at Rally's also. Then just cover it with a standard electrical duplex box cover plate that can rotate open and closed... There's always something :)

I never thought about using the lay flat at a public dump. It's only 1" isn't it? If you still have the standard 3" connect, for those times 15' of either 3" lay flat or Rhinoflex would be fast. I'm using the 1" right now in the woods and love it :)

You're really stretching it John :) hehe After working in heavy industry for most of my life as a boiler engineer, I see things a lot like you do. So my set ups are pretty much fool proof, because you know how it is. Pulling wire and laying pipe is an art, when you want it to be :) Even Maxwell Smart would be safe around my set up.... Well, if I wanted him to be anyway :) hehe. Clean and tight is how I like my set ups also. I even wrap and roll my extra cord and hose under the trailer or hang them up on the bumper... I admit it... I'm a little ridiculous on my set ups :)

Sometimes this forum format still fights me to the end... Take 3... So that was your support jack that broke loose and dropped the trailer? That was one thing that Jason told us about when we picked ours up. He told us what had happened and then he personally checked ours with me to make sure that all of the welds were in place before we left the factory :)

So that was your support jack that broke loose and dropped the trailer? That was one thing that Jason told us about when we picked ours up. He told us what had happened and then he personally checked ours with me to make sure that all of the welds were in place before we left the factory :)

I've seen a number of miner issues that really shouldn't be happening in a $60,000.00+ trailer. They changed the drawer slides out last year from the side mount to the bottom mount, and we brought that problem to the table and it really still needs to be addressed because the drawers still open even after I readjusted all of their magnets that were doing nothing from the factory and replaced all of the screws with 1" grabbers, then added short screws in the second slot. One of the smallest, yet most annoying problems that we have has has been stripped forward screws. Someone used a screw gun, not set correctly and stripped the heads out on a lot of the screws all over the trailer. This includes some of the drawer screws and 2 of the dinette access pannel screws... Then one of the bolts on the bumper was stripped all the way in from the beginning... So someone took an impact wrench, and instead of stopping and replacing the bolt when he obviously saw it was stripped from the beginning, and he went ahead and hammered that nut all the way down with his impact instead... And these little problems are flat out poor employee workmanship... I ended up having to cut off the bumper bolt and buy a new one, so I could remove the bumper to bend the punch plate down into place because it had been bent up at the factory, which was keeping our gray tank 25% full after dumping on level... I had to remove the dinette access pannel bolts with a pair of pliers because they were so hashed and I don't want to show a trailer with stupidity screws stripped out all over the place. Another big problem is the water tank running dry and starting to gurgle at 44%... Then at 38%, it's empty unless we go out and tilt the trailer back to get the water to drain back to the corner... I actually paid $63,000.00 for what I thought was a usable as advertised trailer with a 32 gallon water tank... But now I have a 19 gallon tank because the other 13 gallons aren't useable unless I tilt the trailer way back... The water tank could be set up to work a lot better, with more tilt and a 90° pick up tube in the newly added low corner... This one is Karen's biggest issue and it gets past on to me because I have to add the water and keep it above the 44% to keep her happy, so I'm transporting water every other day instead of every 4 days give or take. I usually add about 16 gallons each time or 2 - 8gallon wheeled tanks, when I should be able to add 4... Plus, you can't just leave the trailer tilted back for any reason because having the trailer out of level when sitting still will fry the fridge because the freon will start bubbling in the lines when not level instead of flowing freely as per the Dometic Instruction Manual... I ended up adding about a gallon of distilled water to the batteries a couple weeks after we picked up the trailer and this has happened to others also. They should have water on hand and add it with you, when you pick up the trailer, that was way too much water to need to add after just a couple weeks. I saw the problem with the TV stand from the get go and talked with them about it, but we ordered ours with out the TV because their stand was right in the way. Then there's the bathroom mirrored door that broke out of nowhere, the replacement door is really strong and it works great and does not wiggle at all. So we have a better door then normal. Then Karen regrouted the bathroom shower pan because it was holding water in bad spots, the igniter on the stove quit working, one of the 12vdc outlets that we had installed has had issues from day 1, some of the windows are really hard to open, one of the plastic window sliders was put in wrong, two of the window shades had to be adjusted and the screws tightened, the chrome plating is coming off on the bathroom faucet, but... Our green light on the fantastic fan does always stay off :) But even with the few problems that we've had, we love our trailer and have been living full time in it since February 13th. We have put over 9000 miles on it since then and we've put our feet in both the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean's with our new Oliver in less then 3 months. The problems that we've had, have been all quickly taken care of by Oliver and their performance as a sales and service team have done us right. I mention the things above because they can all be fixed or worked around easily. As far as options go, I think that we hit it perfectly, and we do love our little Goldilocks :)

... Lol... Was this a generic computer related auto-response or an accidental exact copy of your above post?... Wow!

Sounds like one heck of a first trip John :) 1) We put the cushions from the dinette in front of the drawers with a couple of pillows to block them from opening if we are going to be on curvy roads. 2) The Bulldog Hitch is great as is, but... You sometimes need to push it over from the drivers side so it will click onto the ball before trying to crank the jack off of the ground and close the lever. Just set the tongue on the ball, take it down a touch on the switch, and then push it over into place. That hitch is great, the best that I've ever had. I wouldn't grind it down. Look at it from underneath and have someone lower it while you watch it hit the ball. 3) The furnace needs a few days to burn out, that's normal and it took a few days for us also. 4) We thought about a pantry light but but the ceiling light is right above it and with the pantry full, like ours always is, a light wouldn't work for us anyway. 5) When you take the fantastic fan off of auto, the light goes out. We never run it in auto, we just set it on low mostly. Welcome to the club of 2017 owners :) Does the water heater work OK now? Is it the Suburban? Make sure that the Zamp controller is set to your type of batteries, basically AGM or Wet Cell. Looking Great :)