TV - Stereo Gremlin

[DBL-R]

Hello, I have a 2015 Oliver Legacy Elite with the Jensen TV and the Furrion stereo.  When hooked up to shore power, if I operate the TV or the stereo independently, they work fine.  However, if I have the stereo on and then turn the TV on, the stereo shuts off completely (as in no power).  If I turn the TV off, the stereo comes back on.  Any suggestions?

Thank you

Ron

[topgun2]

Does the stereo and/or the TV normally play its sound through the speakers in the Ollie (both front and rear speakers)?

Bill

[Mike and Carol]

Does this happen when not hooked up to shore power?  I have the same set up.  Both the TV and Furrion receiver are 12V so shouldn’t be affected by shore power.  Mike

[Snackchaser]

7 hours ago, DBL-R said:

Hello, I have a 2015 Oliver Legacy Elite with the Jensen TV and the Furrion stereo.  When hooked up to shore power, if I operate the TV or the stereo independently, they work fine.  However, if I have the stereo on and then turn the TV on, the stereo shuts off completely (as in no power).  If I turn the TV off, the stereo comes back on.  Any suggestions?

Thank you

Ron

Ron,

From what you describe, this is a power issue, not an audio source issue.  So you can rule out the HDMI ARC feature of many modern components that sends a signal to automatically switch the stereo to the active sound source.   

However, there is another HDMI feature on some higher end TV/Stereos that allows the TV to also turn on another component such as a stereo.   If this is the case with your TV, then you might have a HDMI cable issue causing spurious signals.  Try unplugging the HDMI cable to see if that resolves the problem.  If it does, then try a new high quality HDMI cable with a Ferrite choke (little barrel looking thing that goes over the cable).   This is a quick and easy check to eliminate one potential cause.

If that doesn't work, then it could be something to do with the yellow Accessory trigger wire common on 12 volt stereos.  I'd have to think on that one a bit more, so let us know what you find.

Cheers, Geoff

 

 

 

[DBL-R]

Well now the TV won’t even turn on and the cabin lights seem dim.  Since it is in the garage the battery is reading 9v.  I’ve tried unplugging the HDMI with no luck.  I have to reset the Furrion to get it to turn on.  when attempting to turn on the TV the cabin lights dim.

i just went out disconnected it from shore power, tried to reset the stereo and it will not power on.

i though when connect to shore power that it would charge the batteries, is this not the case?

 

and prior to the the stereo worked fine and played through all 4 speakers 

thank you all for the support

Ron

 

Edited 6 hours ago by DBL-R

[topgun2]

Ron - 

Have you checked the connection(s) for all wires coming into your negative bus bar?  Perhaps before that try unplugging the TV and/or stereo and then try your cabin lights - same dimming?  What I'm thinking here is that either you have a loose wire(s) on the negative side or that there might be a electrical short in the TV or the stereo.

Bill

[DBL-R]

Hi Bill thank you, the TV is unplugged from power, not sure how I could unplug the stereo wi the out removing it. Where would I find the negative bus bar?

sorry for the ignorance but the Oli is new to us.

Ron

[Snackchaser]

Ron,

9 volts is critically low, you've got a dead or dying battery situation, and everything else is a symptom of that. Due to a lack of information, I'd guess your shore power is dead or faulty.  This would result in battery not charging, and the TV (120vac or 12vdc) is not getting needed volts.  Same thing with the 12 volt dc stereo, only it has different tolerance to low voltage and that's probably why either one or the other was working.  If battery was dead, your lights and stereo should still work from the converter/charger that converts 120vac shore power 12vdc.  More evidence of bad shore power.   There could be other causes, but shore power is a likely culprit with the information provided so far.

 

Geoff

[DBL-R]

Geoff, the 30amp 120v circuits is brand new.  The surge protector indicates that the circuit is good. Still getting battery on I can only assume since the trailer is in my garage. The solar wouldn’t charge the batteries. Since there are two batteries connected together if I put one of the batteries on a battery tender, will it charge both batteries?
 

Edited 5 hours ago by DBL-R

[DBL-R]

I put the batteries on a battery tender we’ll see if that helps out. I also tried a second 30 amp 120 V circuit on the outside of the house that made no difference. I thought maybe my power cable was bad but when I plugged that into 120 V the microwave works, but all the lights are still very dim. That was just an update. Thank you for all your help. It’s time to get some rest. Good night.

[Snackchaser]

Okay, shore power looks good, but battery is dead!  Sounds like you had been using outdoor solar to keep the batteries charged, then moved the trailer into the garage where there is no solar charging.  If you didn't have shore power connected right away, then normal parasite power could have drained down the batteries and they just haven't had enough time to charge yet.   A deeply discharged lead-acid battery looks almost like a short circuit to the charger initially. The battery voltage is so low that the converter/charger dumps maximum current into it trying to bring it up, which could cause brownouts both on the AC and DC  power circuits.  Deep discharge cycles and age can also degrade batteries, so they may not be charging, or they could be acting like a short.

A faulty converter/charger can cause similar issues.  It could have been weak or bad for a while, but un-noticed if you were solar charging.  They can degrade and still work, but at a lower output.  Where are you reading voltage?  This could provide clues.

To answer your question, yes a tender will charge both of your batteries at the same time.  That would be a good next step.

[Geronimo John]

51 minutes ago, Snackchaser said:

9 volts is critically low, you've got a dead or dying battery situation,

At 9 volts the diehard's have likely already did.  

Good news on having 120V, at least you are not totally toased.

The batteries appear to be 12V wired in parallel.  I'm 90% sure they are gonners.  

Don't just replace them  until you get a volt meter and can test the output of your battery charger.  They are called Converters.  You'll need a volt with clamp on amp meter or a friend who has one.

Post back with what you find.

GJ