dedroll Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Hello, I am looking for a parts list or some guidelines for what I will need when I inspect and repack my bearings on our 2017 Elite 2. I have never done this but I am studying up and my neighbor said he could help. Will I need any special tools? Where is a good place to purchase this stuff? I will change the shocks, part #555025 from Monroe i think, and big question should I just go ahead and buy Timken bearings while I am at it? Thanks David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank C Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Here’s the video from Dexter on bearing maintenance: https://youtu.be/GnH-h3W9XvI 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank C Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 And here’s a very long thread on bearing maintenance that discusses the tools needed and the Timken bearings and seal part numbers: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/5166-dexter-axle-bearings/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted October 12, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 12, 2022 Understand that this chore is not really all that difficult. And, it is good to know how to do this job in the event you have problems while on the road. However, it is messy and requires attention to detail. Remember that mistakes can be very costly. Your "big question" relative to the brand of bearings really depends on a bunch of factors - how hard are you on your bearings (i.e. do you normally tow in high heat at high speed or in wet weather or in a salty climate or tend to perform maintenance on the bearings later versus sooner, or .....). Having said this - quality is generally a good thing, kind of like one of the reasons we all bought an Oliver in the first place. But, if you are gentle on your bearings, always perform maintenance at or ahead of time, etc. there is a case to be made for not throwing your money away just so you can say you have the best. Tools are a similar decision. Buy quality tools and they will last you a lifetime. However, if you will only plan to service your bearings once a year or so and do not plan on using the tools for any other purpose and only plan to keep your RV for another 10 to 20 years and usually keep your tools in good condition (i.e. don't leave them out in the rain, stress them beyond normal tolerances, don't use a screw driver as a chisel, etc.) , a case can be made that you are wasting your money by buying anything beyond what will give you service for that period of time. Bill 2 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 8:07 AM, dedroll said: Hello, I am looking for a parts list or some guidelines for what I will need when I inspect and repack my bearings on our 2017 Elite 2. I have never done this but I am studying up and my neighbor said he could help. Will I need any special tools? Where is a good place to purchase this stuff? I will change the shocks, part #555025 from Monroe i think, and big question should I just go ahead and buy Timken bearings while I am at it? Thanks OMG....Not to be a downer, or impeach your desire for knowledge....but there must be at least 200 pages in this forum that talk about this very issue. My humble recommendations are: A. Kindly provide in your signature your trailer and tow vehicle info. B. Kindly search the forum for this topic. Again no disrespect to you as a new member. GJ 2 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 8:07 AM, dedroll said: Hello, I am looking for a parts list or some guidelines for what I will need when I inspect and repack my bearings on our 2017 Elite 2. Dedroll: On second thought here is some Dexter Related info that may save you some time. If you have any questions, please feel free to PM me. GJ Testing Trailer Brake Magnets.docx Timken Bearings and National Seals.docx Dexter Grease Caps.docx 2 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 Thank you everyone! the LONG thread had the info I needed and I copied Geronimo Joe's info so now I will learn by doing. I have never thought much about wheel bearings but I see this topic is very nuanced with experienced opinions...kinda like what are the best tires and tire pressure!! shout out to John Davies who helps us all so much. David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator+ ScubaRx Posted October 15, 2022 Moderator+ Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 2:07 PM, dedroll said: …I will change the shocks, part #555025 from Monroe i think… I just replaced mine, you’ll need four for an Elite II. Monroe Shocks & Struts Magnum RV 555001 Shock AbsorberMonroe Shocks & Struts Magnum RV 555001 Shock Absorber https://www.amazon.com/Monroe-555001-Gas-Magnum-Shock-Absorber/dp/B000C53RR6/ref=sxts_rp_s_a_1_0?content-id=amzn1.sym.fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd%3Aamzn1.sym.fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd&crid=2RJE8U8YPP2GL&cv_ct_cx=555001+monroe&keywords=555001+monroe&pd_rd_i=B000C53RR6&pd_rd_r=90e48016-e3ee-4551-8ce8-0e8b1fed491a&pd_rd_w=2UL1u&pd_rd_wg=OtqDu&pf_rd_p=fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd&pf_rd_r=R6AR2HNZZ3W4CKAD4NZ9&psc=1&qid=1665797842&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjU5IiwicXNhIjoiMC4zMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=555001%2Caps%2C353&sr=1-1-ea136695-3596-4534-80e7-1570345d02b9 2 Steve, Tali and our dog Rocky plus our beloved Storm, Lucy, Maggie and Reacher (all waiting at the Rainbow Bridge) 2008 Legacy Elite I - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #026 | 2014 Legacy Elite II - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #050 | 2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD SRW Diesel 4x4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 9:38 PM, ScubaRx said: I just replaced mine, you’ll need four for an Elite II. Monroe Shocks & Struts Magnum RV 555001 Shock AbsorberMonroe Shocks & Struts Magnum RV 555001 Shock Absorber https://www.amazon.com/Monroe-555001-Gas-Magnum-Shock-Absorber/dp/B000C53RR6/ref=sxts_rp_s_a_1_0?content-id=amzn1.sym.fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd%3Aamzn1.sym.fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd&crid=2RJE8U8YPP2GL&cv_ct_cx=555001+monroe&keywords=555001+monroe&pd_rd_i=B000C53RR6&pd_rd_r=90e48016-e3ee-4551-8ce8-0e8b1fed491a&pd_rd_w=2UL1u&pd_rd_wg=OtqDu&pf_rd_p=fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd&pf_rd_r=R6AR2HNZZ3W4CKAD4NZ9&psc=1&qid=1665797842&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjU5IiwicXNhIjoiMC4zMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=555001%2Caps%2C353&sr=1-1-ea136695-3596-4534-80e7-1570345d02b9 thanks On 10/14/2022 at 9:38 PM, ScubaRx said: I just replaced mine, you’ll need four for an Elite II. Monroe Shocks & Struts Magnum RV 555001 Shock AbsorberMonroe Shocks & Struts Magnum RV 555001 Shock Absorber https://www.amazon.com/Monroe-555001-Gas-Magnum-Shock-Absorber/dp/B000C53RR6/ref=sxts_rp_s_a_1_0?content-id=amzn1.sym.fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd%3Aamzn1.sym.fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd&crid=2RJE8U8YPP2GL&cv_ct_cx=555001+monroe&keywords=555001+monroe&pd_rd_i=B000C53RR6&pd_rd_r=90e48016-e3ee-4551-8ce8-0e8b1fed491a&pd_rd_w=2UL1u&pd_rd_wg=OtqDu&pf_rd_p=fcbf2b35-b342-496e-87b6-d95b51fd1abd&pf_rd_r=R6AR2HNZZ3W4CKAD4NZ9&psc=1&qid=1665797842&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjU5IiwicXNhIjoiMC4zMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=555001%2Caps%2C353&sr=1-1-ea136695-3596-4534-80e7-1570345d02b9 thank you that must be the right part # then. David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 This is bothering me now... I calculated the price for 4 Timken wheel bearing sets from Summit Racing at $75.92 and the price at Motion Industries was $308.28 ?? David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 is there a way to create a signature? On 10/14/2022 at 1:13 AM, Geronimo John said: OMG....Not to be a downer, or impeach your desire for knowledge....but there must be at least 200 pages in this forum that talk about this very issue. My humble recommendations are: A. Kindly provide in your signature your trailer and tow vehicle info. B. Kindly search the forum for this topic. Again no disrespect to you as a new member. GJ David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank C Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, dedroll said: This is bothering me now... I calculated the price for 4 Timken wheel bearing sets from Summit Racing at $75.92 and the price at Motion Industries was $308.28 ?? There are a lot of counterfeit “Timken” bearings out there, especially on Amazon. At that low price I’m not sure I’d even trust the ones from Summit to be genuine Timken bearings. I bought mine through an authorized Timken distributor (Applied Industrial) and it was about $60 per wheel for the two sets needed (inner and outer bearings sets) for each wheel, plus the new seal needed. And I use the WBA bearing app available for smartphones to scan the QR code on the bearing packaging to confirm they are legit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted October 17, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, dedroll said: is there a way to create a signature? left click on the area where you "log out" at top right corner of the page left click on "account settings" left click on "signature" on left side of page fill out what you want your signature to be left click on "save" 2 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/17/2022 at 10:59 AM, Frank C said: There are a lot of counterfeit “Timken” bearings out there, especially on Amazon. At that low price I’m not sure I’d even trust the ones from Summit to be genuine Timken bearings. I have sent an inquiry to Timken asking if Summit is a trusted dealer for their bearings and National Seals. Awaiting their response. JPR NOTE: Still waiting a response from Timken on 1 NOV 2022. 2 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, dedroll said: is there a way to create a signature? Got it! Thank you!! 1 David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 55 minutes ago, Geronimo John said: I have sent an inquiry to Timken asking if Summit is a trusted dealer for their bearings and National Seals. Awaiting their response. 6 minutes ago, dedroll said: Got it! Thank you!! 1 Results Found For "tmk set17" Part Type: Wheel Bearings KEYWORD: tmk set17 Individual Parts Part Groups In-Store Pickup Results 1 - 1 of 1 25 Records Per Page Best Keyword Match Sort Timken Wheel Bearings SET17 Wheel Bearing, Front Inner, Each Part Number: TMK-SET17 5.0 out of 5 stars ( 8 ) In Stock (more than 10 available) Estimated Ship Date: Today $9.99 Add To Cart Compare Wish List 1 David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katanapilot Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Geronimo John said: I have sent an inquiry to Timken asking if Summit is a trusted dealer for their bearings and National Seals. Awaiting their response. They are. Bought my Timkens from them (they are just down the street) and they all checked genuine with the app. Didn’t trust the ones from Amazon. 3 2020 Elite II Hull #628, Houghton Heat Pump, Victron MP2, SmartSolar, Orion, Cerbo, Lynx install in progress... TV - 2011 Toyota Tundra Crew Max Platinum 4WD, Magnuson Supercharger, OME suspension, Wilwood front and rear brakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 23 hours ago, katanapilot said: They are. Bought my Timkens from them (they are just down the street) and they all checked genuine with the app. Didn’t trust the ones from Amazon. 23 hours ago, katanapilot said: They are. Bought my Timkens from them (they are just down the street) and they all checked genuine with the app. Didn’t trust the ones from Amazon. thank you... it's tricky out there on the webs! David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokieman Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 2:07 PM, dedroll said: I will change the shocks, part #555025 from Monroe i think If necessary, I suggest you re-purpose the concave washers from old shocks as described in this older thread to add additional support and extend life of rubber bushings. Shock Absorber Bushing Support 2 “Ramble” - 2021 Legacy Elite II #797; 2020 Ford F-250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedroll Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 With you all's help I got this done. Parts came from Summit Racing: new timken bearings and 4 extra seals for $157.82 total!! I was glad my neighbor helped, he showed me how NOT to smash those races and seals into place. Thanks everybody! 2 David and Jane Droll, Pulling Hull #238 with a 2018 Toyota Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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