John E Davies Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 EDIT 10/14/23. I returned the trailer due to multiple issues, a new thread with pics, commentary and videos is here: https://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/apogee-adapt-x-folding-utility-trailer-cool-design-big-fail-in-the-execution.241264/ I won't be adding any more content here, but I will be happy to discuss. JD _______________________ New aluminum folding trailer. The sides are reflecting the dark ground, they are shiny silver. https://apogeetrailers.com/folding-aluminum-trailers/ https://www.etrailer.com/tv-review-apogee-adapt-x-300-folding-utility-trailer-at44fr.aspx I found it for $2000 off MSRP, paid $3388 out the door (no sales tax in OR, I have to pay that when I register it in WA. I love the design and the build quality and the attention to details, but holy cow, it is sure noisy on lumpy pavement. It sounds as if it is going to explode, even with 450 pounds of ballast. I use a hitch quieter on the ball mount, I tightened the coupler nut and put nylon ties onto every little rattly part like the pivot pins. They do not mention this in the fancy marketing material. This is a really rare trailer in the USA, I think they are not selling a lot, eTrailer.com USED to carry them, but no longer does. Mine is a 2022, I have not seen any 2023 models listed except in the Home Country, Canada. I guess more Canadians need the folding feature for winter storage, plus they are a little cheaper there too. I have not read any user reviews except for a couple of “Gee I really like this.” And “Gee this is really cool, my ATV fits fine!” This thread will change that. I will post lots of pics and info as I learn more. Fixed their home page: I do not intend to carry a 2000 pound ATV all the time, this is for box store and landscaping trips. I do not want this to turn into another bottomless pit of mods, like “Mouse”, but was considering adding this. It uses the existing axle and hubs, unlike their Independent suspension version. Timbren Silent Ride 3500 lbs I am concerned that the rubber dampers may be too stiff, the trailer has a max payload of 2300 pounds but normally will be less than 1000. If the dampers from the smaller 2000 pound kit can be swapped in easily, that would be a possible solution. Does anyone have direct experience with this Silent Ride system? I just got home yesterday afternoon, 700 mile round trip to the dealer in two days, and I am a bit wiped. I could do that a lot easier when I was 30… I need to do some crawling around and measuring. John Davies Spokane WA 1 4 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX Burner Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Sweet looking utility trailer - very functional and capable... 1 Art, Diane, Magnus & Oscar (double-Aaarrf!) 2022 TUNDRA 2017 LE II; Hull #226 "Casablanca" HAM call-sign: W0ABX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Sagebrush Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 John, I have a similar (Aluma) trailer that like yours is truly noisy. The majority of the noise on the Aluma is coming from the folding ramp. Hull #364 - The Roadrunner 2023 F350 CCLB SRW 6.7L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted September 7, 2023 Moderators Share Posted September 7, 2023 Sweet little trailer. The folding feature is very cool. What are your plans for it? 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Wandering Sagebrush said: John, I have a similar (Aluma) trailer that like yours is truly noisy. The majority of the noise on the Aluma is coming from the folding ramp. No play in mine at that location: There is a bigger one up front holding down the front of the bed. It dumps. I had a couple of Destaco clamps holding down the lid on my old off road trailer. You need to size them by available space (dimensions) and the anticipated load. https://www.destaco.com/clamping/manual.html John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 If I close my eyes, I can imagine an Ollie in that spot…. I think I will call this trailer “Mousie”. John Davies Spokane WA 1 3 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator+ ScubaRx Posted September 8, 2023 Moderator+ Share Posted September 8, 2023 Looks like a really nicely built trailer. I have several utility trailers from a 4x6 foot box trailer that I built back in the 1990's to carry camping/SCUBA gear in to a 7x18 foot flatbed. In Gardner, MT at the North Entrance to Yellowstone NP - September, 1997. Getting ready to leave on a rafting trip on the Buffalo NR in Arkansas, April, 2003. 3 Steve, Tali and our dog Rocky plus our beloved dogs Storm, Lucy, Maggie and Reacher (all waiting at the Rainbow Bridge) 2008 Legacy Elite I - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #026 | 2014 Legacy Elite II - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #050 | 2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD SRW Diesel 4x4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX Burner Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 9 hours ago, ScubaRx said: In Gardner, MT at the North Entrance to Yellowstone NP - September, 1997. Very cool set-up. Nice build-job! 9 hours ago, ScubaRx said: I built back in the 1990's to carry camping/SCUBA gear FYI: We just got back from a Pensacola dive trip last week - planned to hit the USS Oriskany about 22 miles south of Pcola at 180+ feet. But hurricane Idalia had other plans for us. We'll give it another shot next time. Art, Diane, Magnus & Oscar (double-Aaarrf!) 2022 TUNDRA 2017 LE II; Hull #226 "Casablanca" HAM call-sign: W0ABX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted September 8, 2023 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, MAX Burner said: planned to hit the USS Oriskany about 22 miles south of Pcola at 180+ feet Better you than me - I never "liked" anything over +- 100 feet! 12 hours ago, John E Davies said: I can imagine an Ollie in that spot…. About the same - aluminum frame, well built, durable, compact....... 1 1 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 Well, this started out VERY badly, but ended fairly well, the trailer turned out to be crap, pardon my French, and i was able to get a full refund (eventually, after five weeks) from the dealer. I started a new thread at Expedition Portal. I am interested in reading some of their remarks, I think it will be entertaining, Please go here (free to read, I am not sure about viewing attachments without joining (and that too is free), let me know about that please.): https://forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/apogee-adapt-x-folding-utility-trailer-cool-design-big-fail-in-the-execution.241264/ John Davies Spokane WA 1 2 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators topgun2 Posted October 14, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, John E Davies said: I am not sure about viewing attachments without joining (and that too is free), let me know about that please.): Yep - pics are viewable. Shame - it WAS pretty though. Bill 1 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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