Using a Foy support for a Foy (Overland) Laguna Table

[Doug S]

Hi all,

We now have our deposit down!! - and are starting to look at minor customizations. So our first area to focus on is a rear table for the twin. Clearly Overland's approach to a flexible table is elegant, functional, and good looking, so I'm looking at using that as a foundation. I'm also interested in adding one more piece of functionality to literally support our two small (12lb) dogs. I'd like to use something similar for the support that Foy is using for his twin to king conversion. Something that brings enough vertical strength that would de-risk collapsing the Lagun arm or fracturing fiberglas from a wayward human. 

And once there is enough support we could use the same mattress material as those used in the beds, so that it would nearly be a functional king. 

If Foy sees this I would love to have that dialog. I know I can reach him directly, but it seemed better to launch it in the forum. - Thanks - Doug

[Doug S]

I just realized the obvious - the table by itself isn't long enough, so there would need to be "more".

[MAX Burner]

FYI:  We made a table for the Lagun mount from some available red oak we had in the woodshop.  The mount is centered on the nightstand.  The underside of the table is "grooved" and can be fitted on the bed rails so our 55lb husky, Magnus, can curl up between us at night.  It is serving us well so far - Magnus seems to like it too.

The table and mount is stored/bungie-corded on the left side closet bulkhead.

transitioning to the "dog-bed" mode above.

View from below with table grooves on bed rails above.

Table mode - can swing over either bed or centered in aisle for a secondary workstation....

[Wandering Sagebrush]

Art, very nice!  😊

Our previous owner did something similar with two pieces of ply to fill the gap.  Their wirehaired griffon slept under it, and they had a king size bed.   We haven’t used that feature yet, but another benefit is with the cushions  stacked next to the galley counter, and one of the ply segments on top, it makes a great extension to the counter top.

Our Lagun table attaches mid way down the street side bunk (we have basement access), and stores out of the way in the closet.

[Wandering Sagebrush]

12 hours ago, Doug S said:

I just realized the obvious - the table by itself isn't long enough, so there would need to be "more".

Doug, we have two segments that create a king size bed.  They’re in storage now, but I could drag them out and take photos if you need.

[Doug S]

14 hours ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:

Doug, we have two segments that create a king size bed.  They’re in storage now, but I could drag them out and take photos if you need.

Thanks for the offer! I think I've got some more thinking to do though. I guess my first question is "do you use it"?  So you use the Lagun table from midway. Does that bring any advantage that you were looking for? Doesn't it get in the way of your (or someone else's)  legs?

[Wandering Sagebrush]

We mostly use the Lagun for additional counter space or games, and it doesn’t get used a lot.  I may buy a second mount, and use it in my All Terrain (ATC) pop up truck camper shell model.

[Ronbrink]

1 hour ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:

and it doesn’t get used a lot.

I find the Lagun most useful as a bed table, especially in the morning to accommodate an iPad and coffee while sitting up against the rear wall, as well as the evening in similar manner. I can also use it at the other end when watching TV. Of course the table serves other purposes, as you mention, and thus its’ versatility and usefulness justifies leaving it up full time. Currently in the process of mounting a second for the wife’s bed.

 

 

[mossemi]

On 10/17/2023 at 8:13 PM, Doug S said:

If Foy sees this I would love to have that dialog. I know I can reach him directly, but it seemed better to launch it in the forum. - Thanks - Doug

It is often easier to reach Foy through the Oliver Facebook group.

Mossey

[Doug S]

4 hours ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:

We mostly use the Lagun for additional counter space or games, and it doesn’t get used a lot.  I may buy a second mount, and use it in my All Terrain (ATC) pop up truck camper shell model.

Thanks - seems like a lower priority for me right now.

[Doug S]

4 hours ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:

We mostly use the Lagun for additional counter space or games, and it doesn’t get used a lot.  I may buy a second mount, and use it in my All Terrain (ATC) pop up truck camper shell model.

 

7 minutes ago, mossemi said:

It is often easier to reach Foy through the Oliver Facebook group.

Mossey

Thanks for the advice

[Doug S]

4 hours ago, Wandering Sagebrush said:

We mostly use the Lagun for additional counter space or games, and it doesn’t get used a lot.  I may buy a second mount, and use it in my All Terrain (ATC) pop up truck camper shell model.

Thanks - I think I'll just put it in the "let's see after we use it a while" category.

[Doug S]

2 hours ago, Ronbrink said:

I find the Lagun most useful as a bed table, especially in the morning to accommodate an iPad and coffee while sitting up against the rear wall, as well as the evening in similar manner. I can also use it at the other end when watching TV. Of course the table serves other purposes, as you mention, and thus its’ versatility and usefulness justifies leaving it up full time. Currently in the process of mounting a second for the wife’s bed.

 

 

That's really interesting. Are you shifting the mounting locations? I notice that you had it at the nightstand middle at one time?

[Ronbrink]

1 hour ago, Doug S said:

Are you shifting the mounting locations?

Kinda, removed the original Lagun plate that Oliver installed on the nightstand, and used it with a dynamic system I designed and built. I field tested an initial prototype with much success a few months ago. However, further iterations needed to address some inherent design flaws have taken the months since. I am now ready to perform a stress test on the system, followed by more field tests for functionally and safe usage. The only other information willing to share at this time is that the nightstand drawer is no longer obstructed. 

[mossemi]

4 hours ago, Ronbrink said:

Kinda, removed the original Lagun plate that Oliver installed on the nightstand

I may have some hole plugs that will fit the screw/bolt mounting holes from the original Lagun base plate if you haven’t already done that.  Let me know the size you need and I’ll see what I have left.

Mossey

[Doug S]

10 hours ago, Ronbrink said:

Kinda, removed the original Lagun plate that Oliver installed on the nightstand, and used it with a dynamic system I designed and built. I field tested an initial prototype with much success a few months ago. However, further iterations needed to address some inherent design flaws have taken the months since. I am now ready to perform a stress test on the system, followed by more field tests for functionally and safe usage. The only other information willing to share at this time is that the nightstand drawer is no longer obstructed. 

Sounds like a serious plan with a lot of mobile site testing needed. 

[Ronbrink]

5 hours ago, Doug S said:

Sounds like a serious plan with a lot of mobile site testing needed. 

Well, I tend to over-think and over-engineer everything, drives my wife nuts! Not that “serious”, but if I told someone my motto was “I strive for perfection to achieve satisfaction”, maybe they would understand! As for testing, I can only do so much in the driveway; need to travel and camp to see how all performs, or is that just an excuse to pack up and get away? This would be a ‘one trip wonder’ to see if I’m ‘there yet’. More to come, hopefully sooner than later. 

[Ronbrink]

10 hours ago, mossemi said:

I may have some hole plugs that will fit the screw/bolt mounting holes

Thanks, I really appreciate the offer. Actually I bought hole plugs, just haven’t installed them yet; I tend to save the easier things for last! Again thanks!

[SeaDawg]

Wife of engineer, "apprentice" of many decades, totally gets it.

[Doug S]

17 hours ago, Ronbrink said:

Well, I tend to over-think and over-engineer everything, drives my wife nuts! Not that “serious”, but if I told someone my motto was “I strive for perfection to achieve satisfaction”, maybe they would understand! As for testing, I can only do so much in the driveway; need to travel and camp to see how all performs, or is that just an excuse to pack up and get away? This would be a ‘one trip wonder’ to see if I’m ‘there yet’. More to come, hopefully sooner than later. 

I’ll save a place to note the outcome.

[Ronbrink]

On 10/21/2023 at 12:12 AM, Doug S said:

I’ll save a place to note the outcome.

After much thought and further iterations, hopefully with this final prototype, as installed, I will “achieve satisfaction”!

 

 

[MAX Burner]

Nicely done, well thought out.  Thanks for posting!

[Geronimo John]

On 10/20/2023 at 1:26 AM, Ronbrink said:

Well, I tend to over-think and over-engineer everything, drives my wife nuts! Not that “serious”, but if I told someone my motto was “I strive for perfection to achieve satisfaction”, maybe they would understand!

Yes, another kindred spirit to recognize for having a unique, but time consuming talent!  I hereby bequeath you with this ceremonially appropriate T-shirt.

GJ  "The rabbit hole expert"

[Geronimo John]

4 hours ago, Ronbrink said:

After much thought and further iterations, hopefully with this final prototype, as installed, I will “achieve satisfaction”!

I took notice of your steel reinforcement of the  fiberglass bed edge.  My experience with loading them with between bed platforms and existing cushions was that they are really strong.  Just wondering what lead you to that mod? 

Thanks  GJ 

 

[Ronbrink]

19 hours ago, Geronimo John said:

I took notice of your steel reinforcement of the  fiberglass bed edge.  My experience with loading them with between bed platforms and existing cushions was that they are really strong.  Just wondering what lead you to that mod? 

 

Actually, aluminum bar was used; lighter weight and can be worked much like wood. Although the fiberglass bed edge worked, as evidenced by the first set of pics (above) with the original ‘black’ tabletop, it proved to be too weak (think flex and stress) when the table was fully extended over the bed. However, with said weaknesses and inconsistencies found when trying to fit the street side bed, yet another of many iterations in this project was implemented.