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I don’t think so. Rat fur, steel frame, plywood cabinet doors and a interior which makes me think I am in the cuddy of a cheap 70’s fiberglass motorboat would keep me from buying it. Btw, I disagree that Oliver doesn’t compete with Airstream as that was one of my other choices and I would have gone that route were it not for their lack of insulation, thin aluminum skins, popping rivets and problems outlined by current owners. Airstream interiors are sexy but only until they begin to come apart.

My first propane tank flagged "empty" about a few days ago, so I decided to get it filled today. It's definitely NOT empty, and the other tank (also not close to being empty) has a partial Red Flag on the regulator. I'm not using that much propane, only for cooking, as I'm on shore power for the fridge, and not using any heat or hot water. Reading here that some recommend turning tanks off and disconnecting the system before reconnecting. I will try that first. But I also am reading recommendations to "whack the regulator".... how hard? I don't want to damage it. And if someone could respond to this earlier request, that would be great. I would go ahead and order a spare if I had tips on a decent one to use.

Doesn't it look better too? Love the new white one installed! Sorry, but the keyless RV Lock isn't pretty nor reliable. Classic look for a classic TT! (Too bad they don't make a gray one.) These are powder-coated steel, solid as a rock. I bought this a year ago and decided it was time to install it. The original chrome model lasted 10+ years, no failures, but the key cylinders were getting loose where you had to jiggle the key some to start it turning. Not anymore. Everything's tight, good for another 10 years!

Discovery FM Legacy Elite II | Luxury RV Trailers | Oliver Travel Trailers Very similar in size and weight. Not even close in price.

I don’t think that Chevrolet ate Cadillac’s lunch. There’s plenty of room in the RV market for different sizes and quality levels. Even though RV sales may be slowing down, Oliver owners are likely gonna see better prices for their “old” units on the used market. We had considered the Escape line of trailers as well. When we met an Escape owner, he told us he would have preferred the Oliver.

We looked at Casita before we bought the Oliver. I don’t think they had a larger unit in 2021. The current models were - in our opinion - far too small even for a couple. And we LIKE “small” - we simply can’t understand the logic of people pulling massive 5th wheel rigs or driving huge coaches - and pulling along a second vehicle to boot! We were (quite) unimpressed with the interior treatment of the fiberglass shell. Looked like carpeting or some kind of sprayed-on flicked surface. Insulation value aside, we both thought “that’s gonna be hard to keep clean”. The upside was it was build in Texas (as opposed to Elkhart). The nail in the coffin was the one-year wait time. (This was when EVERYBODY was buying RV’s during and right after COVID) At the time, Oliver has a pretty long lead time too, but Josh was able to move up our delivery by a few months due to a cancellation. Obviously the cost ($60,000-ish base at the time) was a huge issue - but this was gonna be a lifestyle and not a weekend toy. Aside from the running gear and the accessories/appliances - the Oliver should last forever. That’s longer than we’ll last. Yes, the Oliver beast is heavy for its size. It hasn’t been an issue for us to date - even with my minimalist approach to TVs- but I wouldn’t want to drag around anything heavier.

Based on my experience with the Furrion Stereo - I had to stop and take a breath before I started considering a much more expensive item from Furrion. Hopefully, they make A/Cs better than they make stereos…. As for Dometic - obviously the Penguin 2 A/C does not win them any customers. IMHO - the toilet is crap as well. The hob is fine - though the “bumpers” that cushion the glass cover only lasted two uses. Norcold? Great fridge - if the freezer hinges were tough enough to withstand normal use. Then again - Truma hasn’t impressed me much either. Im usually pretty easy to please. Maybe that old “they don’t make things like they used to” is the reason - or - I’ve just become more crotchety in my old age.

Don’t have one unfortunately, and $23 for one is nuts! (Likely worse than having to pay almost $80 to Helm for the owner’s manual that GMC no longer includes when you buy an $80,000 truck.) Maybe if you are buddies with any shops that install or service these, they’d have a dead unit laying around you could scavenge one off of. Maybe even find a “dead” unit on eBay and buy the whole thing for less than that one part. I would think that was the kind of part that Customer Service could “find” for you for free and mail it out. When my motor had issues - they sent it out for no charge even though I was out of warranty. I guess it depends if you catch the right person on the right day.

Can't is such an easy answer.

I just hit the on/off button and the open/close button in rapid succession and the door doesn’t do the whole open/close cycle. But yes, the mechanism IS quite noisy (especially in the middle of the night) and possibly worse - each button press gets you a damn beep! I’m tempted to muffle or kill the beep. Sometimes if I just want to open/close the vent I use the manual knob. Done slowly it’s pretty quiet. However, because of the deep roof it’s too easy to get your fingers caught between the knob and the bezel. That’s WAY more than a “pinch” and is quite painful. (Often producing more loud sounds than just pressing the button!)

I used Oliver 24' weight to math out what a 28 or 30 footer would weigh. My point is, I don't think it will weigh substantially more than an Airstream, especially if they stay more narrow than an Airstream. Oliver should tells us what is possible. Did you look at the starting price of the Airstream. Those things are very expensive. Size matters.

We were in the first one sold in January, at the Eggs 'n Smores rally in Florida. The layout is nice, and seems spacious. It obviously isn't Oliver quality, but the one we were in was fully loaded at $59,000 if I remember correctly. The new owner said that a twin bed version was under consideration. When we were shopping, in 2021-2022, the Oliver was beyond our financial reach, and we were looking at Casitas and Escapes. It took selling a number of vehicles and toys to finally afford the Oliver, so if this Casita 24 had been available then, it's probably the direction we would have gone instead. No regrets, and we clearly love our Oliver. It was just a stretch that we might not have made at the time.

I met a young lady using a Casita her grandfather bought new. People like them. The real metric is profitability. Profitability is often times a factor of economies of scale. I want to see Oliver live well on into the future.

@HDRider I think you are overlooking the extra weight for a double skinned fiberglass trailer which neither the Casita or Airstream have. The Oliver as it is now is a very heavy trailer for its size, this is just a fact. Fiberglass is not a lightweight material. Add another 6 feet or 20-25% and the weight goes up substantially. The frame would also have to be built heavier to support the weight, not to mention axels and the list goes on. Most people buying a new Oliver LE2 are most likely spending around $100K, can't imagine what a much larger unit would cost in todays dollars… $145K ±. Simply not worth it, there will be some very strong competition in that price range.

Depends how you define that. If it is all about the number of units sold, probably, but a lower price point will normally do that. The casita interior has never really been appealing for me.

A 28' Airstream starts at $190 and weighs 8,800 # I estimate a 28' Oliver would weigh a little over 8,000# using the pound per foot of an E II. A 30' Airstream starts at $204 and weighs 10,000. I estimate a 30' Oliver would weigh a little over 8,800#. I want Oliver to thrive. You innovate or die. Casita is going to eat Oliver's lunch.

My take, this Casita measures 24’ 3” tongue to bumper, an Oliver 23’ 6”; starting prices $44,999 and $85,000, respectively! The Casita can sleep up to six and thus, better suited for families whereas the Oliver is more of a couples unit. Thanks for sharing!

Yep, saw that a few months ago. I imagine they will be popular. An Oliver that large would be so heavy as to not be worth it in my opinion. Even those with 3/4 ton trucks will have to use a WDH which partially defeats the purpose of using the larger trucks to begin with. And then there is the cost.

You might be interested in the Rocky Mountain Rendezvous. See: https://sites.google.com/site/rockymountaineggrendezvous/home. It is not exclusive to Olivers, but open to any molded fiberglass trailers such as Scamp, Casita, Bigfoot, etc. Unfortunately registration is full for 2026 so they cannot take any more campers for this year’s rally. But maybe something for you to consider for next year. Also in the past there has been a local rally held in Texas in October. But now that the official Oliver rally has moved to October I’m not sure when that one will be held again. But you can keep your eye on the Events and Rallies topic in this forum where that information should be posted.

While I have learned to do all of the maintenance thus far that has been needed on our Oliver I would agree a western service center if they had one would best be located in SLC. I've driven and towed through there so many times I don't even think about it anymore, the CO front range is another story altogether. Avoid that like the plague unless forced into it. I doubt there are enough Oliver's out west to justify the cost of establishing an Oliver service center though. Locally in Bozeman RV shops charge $300 per hour and it takes 2-3 months to get an appointment, worse than our medical systems. The concept of towing nearly 2000 miles to have Oliver work on it doesn't make any sense either. Bretz RV in Missoula is our closest Oliver sanctioned previous dealer/service center but then it's still the same price as Bozeman and a 6 hour round trip. The point being it's better to do repairs yourself like it or not. There are days I consider going back to tent camping. 😵‍💫

I went to the Vortex website. I could not find a dealer locator. How did you find a shop using Vortex? Thanks

I see a lot of Casitas. Most everyone who has one says they wish it was larger. I wish Oliver had a 27' and 30' option to compete with Airstream. https://casitatraveltrailers.com/fm/