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Overall I like the layout better than the Oliver. Wide body, bigger bathroom and fridge, bigger dinette but people say those booth style are still really just two person. On the surface I think it’s a better trailer. For me what it misses is its new and so doesn't have the decade+ tweaking of the Oliver. And it may well won’t get it, most OEMs stick with the known or churn out new models. Escape and Bigfoot do modify their designs but much less so than Oliver. The best engineering comes from continual tweaking and improvements, seen and unseen. I almost like the Oliver more for its bones than for the surface you see.

Or if cautious like me use both an external jack and the stabilizers, belt and suspenders

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Dam Site Lake COE near Eureka Springs Arkansas

I believe that this "OTT & Cooper Tire issue" likely originated from the problems surrounding tires that were shipped to Oliver that had "balancing beads" in them. These balancing beads caused problems with the tire valve due to not allowing the tire stem valves to operate properly. Some additional discussion of this and what Oliver did about it can be found HERE. Note that there were very few Ollies affected by this problem before it was caught. Also note that Oliver supplied new valve stems and a small cash payment to owners that were involved. I'm not aware that there ever was any other tire valve stem "issues" with and/or "recalls" in this regard. Bill

Actually, the angle to which I took the photo just makes it look level. Not much level ground up here, including our driveway! The wet-bolts were very difficult to line up when mounting the leaf springs due to the sloped driveway. There is NO WAY I would have used other jacks and jack stands (even if it was level ground). But with our driveway sloping down back to front and right to left, with wind always coming over our ridge, the built-in jack stands are the only safe way to lift the hull. Trust these jacks, rated to 3,000 LBS each, bolted to the frame (given OTT did not forget to finish the weld as was found in our hull). These jacks and their mounts can be inspected in the basement. The ONLY reason OTT does not advise using the built-in jacks is liability indemnification (since there is no science behind their change in procedure through the years). If the Oliver Owner get's in an accident using aftermarket equipment, OTT cannot be liable. Q: What's best for you? A: Using the built-in jacks. Q: What's best for OTT? A: When customers create product damage or bodily harm it's not created by their product, or anything they installed. Use a 3rd-party jack stand on the "Jack Point" and your hull comes crashing down to the ground, causing damage to the hull? OTT can claim no liability, but operator error. On older hulls the “jack points” as shown are the jacks! The hulls and jacks haven't changed, just the legal position has changed. From the 2016 manual below (two screen-prints). It's the proper way to change a tire, or lift the wheels for any maintenance task! 😎

I don't have time to chase it down today, but you might search for recalls on the OTT website -- I don't know if those stay in the feed on the Forum, but that particular recall might be under Oliver Technical Service Bulletins page?

On level concrete, I see. Thanks for the photos -- that makes an impression!

Try Tire Discounters. When I added TPMS sensors I supplied steel stems from Summit Racing and Tire Discounters installed them and rebalanced the tires at no charge. Guess where I'll buy my next tires?

Agreed, and sorry. I meant when changing from rubber to steel stems. When you are included in a safety recall, that's different. Find another shop at a decent price.

I would not "leave them alone"!! I just had two fail on a road trip a 1,000 miles from home and had to find a solution; a real hassle when traveling. Get rid of the Cooper known pending problem before you leave home. Signed road hassle experienced.

Where can I find more information on OTT & Cooper Tire stem known problems and replacement reimbursement?

That quote is insane and crimminal. Last week I had metal stems put in four tires at Big O in Taos, NM at $6.00 per tire. I was camping at a nearby campground and I brought each tire in (two at a time) and they did the job quickly with a smile.

The best jack, the quickest and safest jack, is our built-in Barker VIP 3000. 😎 When upgrading axles, I would not support the hull in any other way. I'm not using jacks on wheels or bottle jacks on a trailer that can move. I added a jack stand underneath before I got under it. If the jacks can do this, they can be used for any maintenance. I had it sitting like this for 4 days by the time I got the old parts out and new axles and leaf springs installed.

See this thread where several have tried these type ramps and they worked, and for others they did not. In that thread, the topic was about changing a tire. Either way, I think one of these ramps would take enough weight off one wheel to allow grease to enter the uncooperative wet bolt. https://olivertraveltrailers.com/forums/topic/3630-jack-points/

For sure! Best to install new valve stems with new tires! That way your not paying for mount & balance twice, just parts cost. I’d leave them alone for now but get the Colby stems Ken showed above in case of failure during travels. They are now in my toolbox and I have steel stems on truck and trailer. Hope I don’t need them, but any kind of stem can fail. It’s good insurance! 😎

Discount Tire here in Boerne was much cheaper!

It’s on our calendar! Lake Livingston is a nice park. Mike

The Texas a Oliver Rally is scheduled for April 5 (check in date) through April 8 (check out date). This event will be held at the Lake Livingston State Park. You will be able to book your site starting in December, 2026. Most information will be posted on Facebook but I will also post here as well. Hope to see you there!

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Unfortunately, I can't vouch whether it did or not, but I will check my photos and see if I can find anything. If I can, I will post back here.

Not that it would cause a problem, but just that it would not get all the way off the ground.

I found my receipt from 2023 -- that local place (Horner's in Punta Gorda) charged $90 to replace the stems on all five tires. Compared to the closer place quote of $200, Horner's is a deal.

PS: they are less expensive than an Oliver but most likely an introduction price, bound to become more pricey over time

Bill got to the website choose a trailer link, only two models and the prices pop right up. There is also a fair amount of other info that might answer some of your questions. Regarding those windows. Had them on our T@b for 7-8 years without issue, no scratches scuffs etc. I really miss those windows, great ventilation.