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I didn't pick one up, but should have. Sure beats big needles, a punch, and a leather palm. If they still have any next trip, I will. Would be handy on the boat, too.

And, it's pretty, too!

Beautiful photos! As you know, Muncho Lake is one of my very favorite places. Glad you stopped. So sorry about the black flies. We usually are there in spring.

Here's my old thread. There are many others.

I'd admit that light rain may be a bigger issue with surface tension. That's where the inobtrusive gutters keep you very dry. Or, pipe cleaners...

@Ray and Susan Huff, I thought of you the other day when I spotted this, wandering harbor freight while Paul filled the cart. We picked up a couple extra $20 camping chairs, and a few other items.

Two weeks ago, we had 12 inches of rain in 28 hours. No issues with the weepholes, perhaps because a few weeks before we a had had a brief rainstorm, a clogged weep wept a little into the side wall, and I cleaned them all. For the second time this season. Imo, This isn't really an Oliver issue. It's an rv window manufacturer issue, and not a huge one, just a pesky maintenance issue. I wouldn't enlarge the weepholes. I'd definitely add the vinyl gutter over the windows, as many of us have done.

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Your tongue weight just dropped.😃 you'll find something to store there. We always do. Looks very nice.

No, not likely. Please open a service ticket.

Interesting, as we never had that happen with our older (2008) ventline vent. It eventually leaked, the handle cracked, but it never came open on its own. I don't remember the little drain hole. Maybe it was in the back, maybe didn't have it . We replaced it last year, with the Maxx dome vent, so I can't check .

Again, this year. Becoming a traditional Labor Day thing, for us. Smith's dogs for lunch, walleye dinner. Life doesn't get a lot better. Shore dinner, in the mountains.

What are the two stacked covers to the rear of the battery compartment, above the lower marker light? We don't have those on our 2008. Thanks.

I'd love to hang out with you, and cook together. I'm not much of a baker, and I'm sure I could learn a lot from you.

My home kitchen is at least 3 or 4 times the total size of my older Elite, so I get that. Like Susan, I'm a scratch cook, sometimes speedscratch, but I relax that a bit, camping. For short trips, or first week of longer, I do a lot of things at home. Precooked pasta, and bag with a bit of olive oil . I use a lot of 90 second microwave bagged rice, though I don't have a microwave. Pasta salad, potato salad, etc at home. When I prep, it's often outside, and I tend to prep commonly used items like peppers an onions for several days, stored in baggies. Indoor meals in bad weather can actually be fun. If you think the kitchen the II is tiny, take a look at the original Elite . It's all doable. 14 seasons, going strong. Tiny kitchen and great meals. Or, so says my husband.

For the work, and risk, involved, $400 is pretty fair for a second owner. Spin welding is not really a diy kind of task, imo . Yes, it was an unrecognized design flaw.

Sweet ride!

We're all waiting for Overland to retire so he'll manufacture his nifty sidemount invention for the Lagun for all of us... 😅

Thankfully, haven't seen price or availability changes yet, outside asheville. Thanks for the heads up. 15 or 20 per cent of 🇺🇸 refined gas comes out of Nola area. It may change. Usually does.

So, my 2008 elite, 6.5 at belly, x 6 plus a bit, at height, from front roof to bottom fiberglass, (assuming air flows under the trailer, not counting tires, etc.) Would be roughly 39 point something sf. I'm not discounting for curves in and up and down and sides, not adding on for trolley top, and additions, like vents, ac, antenna, etc. It's a bit more complicated than I feel like measuring and calculating, but I suspect Elite, with curves and indents, may be a lot less than a flat front trailer. And, quite probably under 40 sf. Could certainly be out or wrong, but I think the curved surfaces make up for a lot. Never really thought about it much, till now. Looking forward to a math challenge. And, @bhncb you've brought up this good point, and many others, in other posts. I really appreciate it, as do others I could certainly be out of whack, here.

@bhncb, I'd love to see a published equation for figuring frontal area. It's a really good point, but not exactly sure how to figure it with the rounded shorter (and trolley roof) front of an Elite. Our is a little over 6' at the front, (not counting tires height) and 6'6" at the bellybutton, but narrows top and bottom. The accessories on top surely increase drag, but if I were so inclined to reach back to high school math, and did proper measurements, I'd probably be close to the 40 sf limit. Maybe out, maybe in. The back, of course, is far more squared off. @FrankC, your experience with two cherokees is important. Did you tow anything with them? We have a friend in NY state with a lesser capable Cherokee model than the Trailhawk. He tows a big 4x4 utv, a lot. Traded up from a 2up to a heavier side by side, recently, and is buying an aluminum trailer vs steel, to stay within the limits. I usually say, your TV that you own, if within legal and comfortable limits, is the best choice, to begin. Depends entirely on your skills and camping style, and where you want to go. Marginal tow is a no go for mountain passes, imo. Many people change up later. Some people are ok limiting gear, staying on the flats, and good weather, not carrying water in any of the tanks. Others are not. Some people routinely drive mountain passes, (like us) and are unwilling to monitor every piece of gear and its weight. And, travel with empty tanks, routinely. Which would probably be required in the op situation. Some people just camp weekends, short drives, with hookups. Not us, but that's ok, too. Steve/ @scubarx is not only kind hearted, but super skilled in many areas, and brings joy to others and himself being able to fix and repair. He carries a LOT of weight in parts and tools and bedslides that many of us don't. Plus, a huge generator on the tongue. It's not the end if the world to camp minimalist. It's also not the end of the world to enjoy every avaiilable option. Everyone is different. That's why the world is so much fun.

That's an awesome idea. Thanks for the photos. Nice work!

That's the 80 per cent with which I totally agree.

I agree with Steve about 80 per cent.Some people carry less than me, many (like Steve) carry much more. We're under 4k, fully loaded, but still sure the 420 tongue is close. No basket. 20 lb tanks. I think it's also important to consider that towing with a marginal vehicle might meet safety requirements, but it won't likely be as fun or easy. And that small gas tank would be a no go for us . (I read the fb link.) Thanks for adding that, Steve.

Congratulations, Fred. The countdown begins!