Dave and Kimberly

WELCOME Jason! We look forward to working with you and good luck in your new position!

Its one part of whats called a 3 WAY switch. Just like in your house where you can turn a light on/off from opposite sides of the room... this allows you to turn the water pump on from either the wall above dinette OR from the bathroom.

I'm thinking that my next truck will be an F-250 super duty diesel. I understand all the benefits (pay load, braking, handling and elimination of the WDS) There is a significant cost up ($10K) for the diesel engine alone. Ive read enough folks opinions on the diesel engine and I'm convinced that it is better for towing. My current F-150 just never gets any more than 13mpg... and thats generally a good day! A question to the many of you folks that have made the leap to diesel; what kind of milage are you getting while towing your Ollie?

I'm glad your power came back on Steve! I've seen other posts where our Ollies can also double up as a comfortable back up housing in a pinch!

It's clearly (by the comments already) a matter of preference. We like to always leave home (or one campsite to the next) with full fresh and empty black and gray. For one thing we like having our nice water from home in tank, but we also invariably use our bathroom along the way. Regarding drinking from it... we do, but also carry a Brita water gizmo in the fridge. So even our water is filtered once more from tank for our coffee and drinking water. There have been times when I left one campsite and planned on having water at the next site... so I didn't fill up my fresh. Then our plans changed and I found myself boon-docking without that water in my fresh tank... so now it's just my rule: full fresh, empty black and gray no matter what, I just do it.

HD... I feel your pain. I too loved taking off on my motorcycle and just catching a hotel somewhere along the way... with little or no planning except a "general direction" in mind. That said... I've learned with the Ollie how to be nearly as spontaneous by becoming more and more aware of the Ollie's capabilities... AND I CAN SLEEP IN MY OWN BED EVERY NIGHT. It's also much cheaper than decent hotel rooms at today's prices! It's taken us a couple of years... and now with nearly 270 nights in our Oliver to get used to how to maximize all of it's strengths. As you learn how long your fresh, gray and black tanks last (the way you travel), you start to learn just how "free" you are. If you are just traveling, trying to get somewhere, a Walmart or Cracker Barrel work great because they are nearly everywhere. It's also very nice to have, besides your rolling hotel room... a rolling restaurant with great food and snacks, and a clean bathroom when the moment strikes. Let's not even talk about that quick nap! The Oliver is so self contained and easy to get in and out grocery store parking lots, fast food joints, gas stations, small towns and side streets, etc., that you will come to appreciate the amenities of your Oliver. It's also easy to get in to campsites that many would not be able to. Regarding planning; it takes a certain amount of planning to go see and spend time in those destination "hot spots" that we've always wanted to see. What we have found works best for us is to anchor your trip with reservations in those places that just require it... but allow time in between those hot spot reservations to be spontaneous (that place the locals told you you just can't miss!), time for medical or mechanical emergencies and to just allow time to shop for groceries and do the laundry. Of course I'm saying all of this and assuming that you don't have too many time constraints. If you are still working you can throw out everything I just said! 🙂 If you ever took Stephen Covey's class on "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People"... all of this reminds me of the "lesson" of putting in the big rocks in the jar first (the things that really matter) ... and then sprinkle in the little rocks (smaller things that are fun... but maybe not absolutely necessary). Travel is fun, but I don't like it to be so much like work. I'm done with schedules and self inflicted constraints to be somewhere at a certain time. Time to relax, enjoy, be surprised... and stop in at that store in the mountains that serves awesome huckleberry pie and ice-cream.

GJ... the "red light" on the battery blanket switch is all I am going by. And I agree that the true test is to measure any draw going to that blanket independent of the red light. While I have the electrical tester... it's a case of having a tool... but not absolutely certain how to use it to it's potential. 🙂 I have a neighbor that might be able to show me if can get his attention long enough to teach me some basics. FYI: We came home from a short trip... and it's sitting out there, now with the ceiling fan on about 50%.... running 24/7 and the battery is staying at 99 or 100% all the time???? Of course the solar panels are keeping up with the drain.

I did my career at Honda of America, Mfg in Ohio. We of course tracked every units build and history with the V.I.N.. I thought Oliver was doing the same with the Elite and Elite II builds, using either the "hull number" or some other identifier... but I realized when they sent out the mass-mailings on the Bulldog hitch recall that they weren't doing anything at all like that. THEY upgraded my hitch from the 2" / 7000 lb Bulldog to the 2 5/16" / 12,500 lb version. Even though they had done this... they sent me a recall notice. If their build records were complete... this would have been unnecessary. Evidently, at some point in their production run... there was some 5,000 lb Bulldog hitches that had gotten inadvertently installed. Maybe even just one?? But because they couldn't ascertain the production window where they KNEW there were good parts... they had to go back and check all or nearly all of them, because the risk was just too great. I suspect that this has shined a light on why they might want to be doing something like this going forward.

Ron... how exactly do you turn the "inverter" off ? You mention two locations, one of which is the wall mount. Thats the only place I've ever turned it on/off. Where is the second place? Is it the breaker (under dinette)? I have only recently tested that location as well. SO off on the remote and off at the breaker panel under the dinette. Our 2022 Ollie has the 3000 watt inverter but I'm guessing all things considered both are the same. I should mention that everything works perfectly fine when we are using the camper and this is only a problem when home and NOT USING the camper.

GJ... Last week I pulled all of the fuses... and and turned off every breaker and of course made sure that nothing was running, no sound, no fans, no lights, etc.. Everything "appears" off. The Lithionics app is the only data I have, and it's not showing any "current consumption"... and yet that same app (Sunday to Wednesday) has shows SOC has went from 80% to 77%. Clearly, electricity is being siphoned off somehow? We will use the camper this next week... but once we are home... I'm almost to the point of turning off the inverter and batteries to see if this stops the drain. Of course then the only way to get a status update would be to turn the batteries back on.

So... other than the Red light, how did you know the battery blanket was "on". My switch toggles from on to off and through out it has been in the off mode.

So the concern I have, that while it sounds simple to just turn off batteries... it seems in a direct contradiction to what Oliver and Lithionics says? (see John Dorrer post above) I vaguely remember something about the inverter being on with the batteries turned off... and then turning on the batteries (one by one) and there was some sort of possibility of a surge doing damage? Maybe someone can speak more informed about this? STATUS update: Friday at 12pm...after charging batteries were at 100%. At the moment, three days later batteries are at 98%. A more reasonable loss level. Everything is off, all the 12 volt fuses are pulled and all the breakers are turned off (under the dinette table). I'm going to replace those fuses/turn on breakers.... and continue my search for "what is consuming electric" when everything appears to be OFF?

Apologize to those trying to help... I'm reading and trying as many of the suggestions as possible, but the nature of it takes time to ascertain what the results are. Geronimo John- I'm not familiar with another fuse panel in the attic? Do you mean the rear storage space (above rear window) where the EMS, TV antennae on/off area? Our Ollie is a 2022 if that matters. I've resisted turning off the batteries. I don't think the failure is with them and I've also shied away from disconnecting power to the CO2 and/or fuse panel (now all red lights) because I don't think those little lights would be a significant draw. In addition, I've went out to the trailer at night to see if there are any lights on anywhere; outside basement storage area, inside, outside, trailer running lights, etc. Nothing. My 7-pin connector is housed safely out of rain in holder made for it. My Xantrex inverter is turned off at the control panel. And it's quiet as a church mouse. No fan, no humming, nothing. Exactly how do you "trip it's circuit protection"? To be honest... I'm concerned about turning off some of these things because it would take me down another electrical rabbit hole when I try to power them up. (worried about sequence of turning inverter and batteries back on and damaging something???)

Thats a good idea... I understand that drift can throw the battery SOC off... in fact, thats why I let the batteries go down farther than normal in the first place so that I could "reset" the SOC. To answer your voltage question: Currently the batteries are registering, from the Lithionics app 84% SOC and 13.28 volts. Key points: to clarify with some who asked; I do not have a composting toilet. (I understand that they have a fan that can be operating) I believe there is a switch w/red light indicating on... in the battery compartment (2022 model) that turns the battery blanket on/off. It has been off. (so I guess not so hard to turn off the heating blanket under batteries 🙂 ) There is a button on the top of each battery that turns that specific battery on/off/reset. Those are on. I've turned the solar panels off... just to eliminate that variable. Turned off all the AC side breakers OFF. On the 12 volt circuit panel I pulled each one of the fuses. (of course now there are several red lights indicating no circuit) Also the batteries were (just last week) brought up to 100% and then I closed the camper back up. I am charging them back up to 100% now, I've taken out all the 12 volt fuses from circuit panel and all breakers are off on the AC breaker panel. PS- wasn't sure how to do the "quote" thing so... we'll see how this looks when I hit submit.

I’m going to try each suggestion… one at a time over the next few days to see if I can isolate anything. Starting with Rinbrink idea. & “now trip the surface mounted switch for the Xantrex and DC located under the street side bed. Problem solved, at least for now; zero draw on the batteries!” then of course there is TOPGUNS old school idea of simply disconnecting a main ground wire. GJ- know it’s “doable” to take the batteries out and investigate the “heater blanket”… but I’m putting off that because, well mainly I’m lazy and it sounds like a lot of work… but it’s on my list too. I should say I am familiar with using the Lithionics app… and despite the obvious contradiction…. It says there is zero draw.??? SOMETHING is drawing down my batteries. I started out thinking that the answer would be easy to find. Just know that I appreciate the thoughtful suggestions and I’m looking into them. If I discover anything useful… I will for sure post what it is😀