Bill and Nancy

It looks like this thread was started in 2023 but I will put in my two bits. I know people disagree with me but we tow with a 2022 diesel GMC canyon. it has a tow capacity of 7700 pounds. I have loaded the truck and trailer many different ways and have taken it to the cat scales more than you care to know. Ive come close to maxing out the trucks GVW but was still under by 400 lbs. Thats including full fuel me my wife 2 kayaks, tent, 5 gallons extra water a full cooler of ice and food, cooking stove, fire pit,IMG_3990.HEIC one e bike and a regular bike. The trailer weighs in at about 5,600. The truck has no problem towing as far as power and so far braking hasn't been an issue. If I had a bigger garage I might consider a bigger truck but so far we have been very happy. Good luck Bill and Nancy

we have a 2022 with Dometic heat and we have camped in the high teens a few times but keep it around 58 and leave the bathroom door open. So fare so good Bill

The guy forgot to mention that my truck is a diesel and also has Jake brakes. It tows 7,700.00 pounds compared to a gas Canyon with a 5,500 lb tow capacity. I’ve weighed the truck and trailer several times on cat scales fully loaded and with full water, extra water, bikes and Kayaks and I come in more than 300 lbs under gross for the truck and the trailer weighs in at 5,600 lbs and the tongue weight is right where it should be. It’s almost light on the tongue with the e-bikes on the back but is ok. we’ve towed about 10,000 miles so far and it seems fine. Been through the smokies, Catskills and the white mountains with out a problem. Would a bigger truck be better ? maybe we are at its limit, but still within the manufacturers specifications. But getting 20mpg towing and 24 not towing and the truck fits in my garage is worth something. Plus my truck is my everyday vehicle and pulling the trailer is only about 5% of its use. Sometimes you need to make some calculated decisions to make it work. Bill

We were on our Way home from the Hershey PA show when we stopped to stretch our legs. A couple came up to us and said they had been following us for about 20 miles hoping we would stop so they could see our trailer. It turned out they had a you tube channel. You never know who you might meet on the road. Bill

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This should be the link for the motion sensitive strip lights. Im not sure where I got the puck light but they have them on amazon but they come in packages of 3 or more. I think I may have got it at Lowes or Home depot. I think I attached the link and the photo file correctly I wanted to put titles on them but I cant seem to do it. The motion lights have a metal strip that sticks with sticky tape to the trailer. Then the light stick with magnets to the strip with rare earth magnets. So it makes it easy to take them down to put in batteries. Hope this helps Bill IMG_0029.HEICIMG_0029.HEICIMG_0029.HEICIMG_0030.HEICIMG_0031.HEICIMG_0032.HEIC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9Q3DVH3 ref_=icdp_ba_mweb_mb_pd_bap_m_grid_rp_0_20_pr_gf&clientRefMarker=pd_bap_m_grid_rp_0_20_pr_gf&heartsTeamIdentifier=buyagain&heartsViewId=FAVORITE_REORDERS&psc=1

I'll check with Nancy she buys the stuff I just get the honey do list. I'll go out in the trailer now and get some pictures and find out where we got them and re post shortly Bill

Nice job! I was lazy and found some battery operated stick on LED lights that are motion sensitive. The seem to work great and you just stick them on for us lazy folks. We put one in the pantry, the closet and the basement next to the access between the beds. I also stuck one that you touch to turn on above the main switch panel. I always hated at night I cant see the black witches without a flash light. Now I just touch the light and it comes on so I can see the switches. So far it's been 2 seasons without needing new batteries. An inexpensive solution that takes no time to or skill to install, just peal and stick. Bill

Glad the rack is still working we haven't had much time to play but God willing that is about to change. As of January 1st we Retired. We sold our business to our long time employee and she will continue to run our Bird store hopefully for may years to come. We will still be working for another month or so until she settles in and finds an employee to replace us. We hope to travel later this summer and put some miles on our Oliver. Hopefully we will bump into some of you on the road. God Bless Bill and Nancy

Thanks Josh also replied to an email

I can't seem to find the location where Oliver wll be at the Hershey show this year 2024. I know they said that they will be located 1.6 miles from the main show. Does anyone know the address. Thanks Bill and Nancy

We have a GMC diesel Canyon and we love it. Will pull our elite II at hi-way speed up and over every thing we’ve been over. Been over the smokies Aderondaks in NY and the Whites of NH with no problem. on Average we get about 24MPG and 19MPG while towing. The small truck fits in my garage and it’s my everyday driver.

Thanks for the help I think I will try the garden hose trick and leave it connected and coiled up. As far as the leaky valve I will lube the valve but I think it’s out of adjustment because it has leaked from day one. We have a Lavio toilet so we only have only gray water. We also noticed when we had the pump on by mistake we used a portion of our fresh water. Its not a problem I just wanted to understand how it worked just in case we turned the pump on by accident when hooked to city water.

My wife said the same thing, I tend to make this difficult. Do you find that you gray water shut off doesn’t shut completely. Ours leaks quite a bit with it fully closed.

this is a two part question that I feel rather stupid asking. Is there any harm in running the water pump while be hooked up to city water. This past trip we inadvertently turned on the water pump to run the water while being hooked up to city water. We hardly ever stay where there are hook ups so out of habit we would turn the pump on to use the water while being hooked up to city water. The other question is I find it hard to connect and disconnect the gray and black water drain hose because it sits about a foot in from the bumper. It’s not a huge problem because we only have gray water so it is less of a mess if it leaks. I have a few ideas on how to move the plumbing to an easier location but I’m sure someone has done it already. Bill

When Nancy and I picked up out Olie last October we spent the better part of a day at the Nuclear Museum in Oak Ridge. It was on our way back home but I dont think it was that far away. We found it very interesting

We showed our trailer to some customers who came into our store because they had heard we had an Oliver and asked us to see it. so we had them come by on the following Sunday and spent a better part of an afternoon with them. We filled out the forms on line and never heard boo from Oliver and as far as I know the prospective buyers never got contacted from Oliver either. Don’t hold me to that but I never heard anything back from either party. About a month later I got a call from Oliver with a referral and we spent another afternoon with a nice couple from a nearby town. We told them to consider a new trailer because of the upgrades to the heat , ac and refrigerator in the 2023 model instead of a buying the used 2022 they had a line on in Florida. We thought the extra mods were worth the mob. But they ended up buying the used 2022 in Florida. . Anyway we did get the $50.00 added to our card for showing the trailer to the 2nd couple. We also found out that the rewards card that Oliver uses has a lot of issues from the provider, not Oliver. So as soon as we got the card we ran it through our credit card machine at our store and took the cash. Bill

the lithium is great for that for sure.

We spoke to phil from Oliver at the rally and he has also brought this to attention to his superiors. He has no idea why they switched it on the newer trailers but he gets a lot of complaints about it.

We are at the Oliver rally in ME and we found out that the older Oliver’s had two switches for the porch lights. On for the street side and one for the curbside lights. The newer Oliver’s not sure on the 2023s have only one switch for both sides. It is annoying not only to us but it’s a common complaint of most people that you can’t shut off the street side porch lights. When in a camp ground most of the time all they are good for is to blind your neighbor.

The funny part is I replaced the socket with a new one and it didn't fix the problem. I am very interested in what might have fixed the issue. I went into the fuse panel where the automotive fuses are and found the red LED next to the #9 fuse was lit. It is labeled usb. Number10 fuse is also labeled usb. The lighter socket under the dinette and the one by the tv both indicated 13.5 volts. My guess is they are on fuse # 10 I did not test them to see if that is the case. So I unplugged Fuse # 9 and did a continuity test and it was good. I put it back in and the light went out and everything worked and I now had 13.5 volts not 5.4 volts at the socket above the stove. While i had my head under the table I could hear a buzzing coming from from the EMS. It sounded like a loose connection arcing out intermittently. The bundle of wires going into the EMS were very loose and if I wiggled them I could get the buzzing to go on and off. I opened the EMS and found a loose ground, I snugged it down and the buzzing stopped. My guess is you are right and it was two separate issues. I think the connection on the fuse was either corroded or the fuse was not seated correctly causing the low voltage at the socket. The loose ground in the EMS had nothing to do with anything but would have become an issue down the road if I hadn't found it and snugged it down.

We have a 2022 and it has a pump switch under the sink and use it all the time. Now if we could only turn off the curb side out door lighting it would be great.

Its the EMS stands for Electrical Management System, Its a computer that is located in a black box about 6 inches square where the shore power comes into. Bill

For those of you that are interested I pulled the connections off from the back of the terminals and Isolated the two sockets compliantly from the trailer wiring. I made up a pig tail and ran it from the cigarette lighter from my truck to power the two sockets. The usb worked fine and the cigarette socket read 13.5 volts. So now I knew it must be somewhere in the trailer wiring. After much investigation I found a loose ground inside the EMS under the back dinette seat. I snugged it up and checked all the other connections and lo and behold I now have 13.5. Volts at the socket. Before opening the EMS I contacted Oliver service and told Hanna what I suspected. She gave me the authorization to open up the EMS to check for a loose wire. She said it was a first but was glad I found it as a bad ground can cause an over heat situation. Bill

This is still a puzzle. Oliver sent me a new cigarette lighter socket to replace the existing one over the cook top. I replaced it and its not the problem. With a little more investigation this is what discovered. There is 5.4 volts at the socket but if I disconnect the adjacent usb plug the voltage will jump to 12 volts. The cigarette lighter socket under the dinette and the socket above the bed and to the right of the TV bother register 13.5 volts. I have a call into Oliver and am waiting to see what they say. I’m thinking a bad ground someplace or a loose connection. I haven’t had the time to start ripping things apart and I’m waiting to see if someone might have an idea where to begin looking. bill