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[DanielBoondock]

If you like nerding out on details ...

Here's the control boxes, yay more LED's to cover at night. But see below, this might be just the PP model, or an early idea

 

Here's the Ecoflow. That spot is blank on mine, unfortunately I lose cabinet space for no useful purpose

The battery looks like a standard ecoflow bolted in there, with all the electronics and casing. No space to do a side by side like with the Lithionics. 5 kWh base, I have about 9 kWh with the Lithionics upgrade (which cost $$). Jason says it can be supplemented, maybe he means the Ecoflow daisy chaining feature with an external battery

 

They dropped the vents. Those Ecoflows have built in active cooling and fans, maybe they figure that's good enough? Still need to dump heat somehow

 

Different picture on the websidte compared to the Austin demo model. Two control panels and not one on the side pantry wall. Bottom is the tanks, the top looks like the Truma with the control knob. Probably something similar. 

 

[jd1923]

4 hours ago, ScubaRx said:

They are using a Dometic FreshJet A/C.

OTT needs to get with it! Brinkley installs the Furrion Chill Cube. 😎

3 hours ago, DanielBoondock said:

advertised as 'up to 9 dB quieter'.

That’s 9 less than 3 feet from a freight train! 🤣

[Mike and Carol]

1 hour ago, jd1923 said:

OTT needs to get with it! Brinkley installs the Furrion Chill Cube. 😎

That’s 9 less than 3 feet from a freight train! 🤣

Both the Chill Cube and the Fresh Jet are quieter than our old Penguin.  Do we know which is the quietest?   The choices for AC replacement are growing!

[jd1923]

1 hour ago, Mike and Carol said:

Do we know which is the quietest?

When first fired up, the Chill Cube in med-high fan makes about 30% of the noise of the Dometic P2. Once the cabin cools and it's variable speed compressor and fans gear down, its whisper quiet sound must be <5% of the awful P2!

It's by far the quietest A/C unit I've ever heard. Wonderful easy sound for an afternoon nap in the Oliver! 😎 

And for us, power requirements are very important, so to run our A/C on battery/inverter. 

Edited yesterday at 08:36 PM by jd1923

[DanielBoondock]

FWIW I’m a noise freak, super sensitive to noise. The Truma Aventa is supposed to be among or the quietest on the market according to AI. At first I was disappointed hearing how noisy it is but I forgot that ACs need to break in. Used it yesterday, it’s really  good! I can sleep with this. 

Don’t know why they’re switching from Truma, it’s a good combination 

[DanielBoondock]

20 hours ago, jd1923 said:

OTT needs to get with it! Brinkley installs the Furrion Chill Cube. 😎

I’ll guess because it’s a high profile unit? They’re coming out with a lower rated low profile one but it’s not here yet. Seems like Oliver likes low profile 

[topgun2]

2 hours ago, DanielBoondock said:

Don’t know why they’re switching from Truma, it’s a good combination 

Read the post here on the Forum about how Oliver footed the entire bill for the repairs to the Truma water heaters.

Bill

[Tom and Doreen]

27 minutes ago, topgun2 said:

Read the post here on the Forum about how Oliver footed the entire bill for the repairs to the Truma water heaters.

Bill

That was big of Oliver.  In my opinion Truma clearly had an engineering problem but didn't have the capacity to correct all the units in the field.  Oliver really stepped up and backed their customers; awesome! 

Edited 5 hours ago by Tom and Doreen

[jd1923]

2 hours ago, DanielBoondock said:

Seems like Oliver likes low profile

My wife Chris said, "The sound on this A/C is soooo quiet! I can't see it any taller from inside, so who cares?" 

I think it looks just fine up top (function over form) and would not want any Dometic A/C product ever, or Truma for that matter, with no aftermarket support and warranty issues with something like owner installation of a Soft-Start. BTW, Soft-Start should be inherent to the design, like it is on variable-speed or inverter A/C units (not after-the-fact with Truma service costs).

I've heard the quiet Atmos/Tosot and they are quiet. The Chill cube is quieter, while using half the power. It's the height of this unit with huge evaporator fan, that creates its efficiencies and allows for an air handler flush to the Oliver ceiling. She looks just fine! We love this product. 😎

[DanielBoondock]

I care less about the looks than the aero. Granted this truck doesn’t care so much about aerodynamics, it’s not the old days of EV’s anymore, but it’s part of the culture now. Just like the “0-60” is part of the ICE culture. Outside gubbins really kill aerodynamics. I’ve got some aero ideas for the Ollie I’d like to try someday. 

I like the metal plates (they are metal right?) of the water/air heaters on the side. Not fond of the plastic Truma plate. 

Anyhow back OT - do the new trailers still have the switch plate near the door? It would be a mistake to drop that. Jason showed in the video how you can monitor and toggle individual circuits “without having to flip a breaker”. That’s of limited use I think, who turns off circuits via breakers? But for them will probably eliminate a bunch of production steps. Now it’s just run the wires to the control box probably and no breaker panels. 

But it’s also single point of failure. I had both my composting fan and CO/LP detector go out. It was an easy fix dealing with the issues as it’s all physical. The Ecoflow ‘Smart Touchscreen’ was released in Summer of 2022, probably wasn’t really available until the next year. So it’s only been a couple years on the market, not a lot of track record yet. 

[DanielBoondock]

4 hours ago, topgun2 said:

Read the post here on the Forum about how Oliver footed the entire bill for the repairs to the Truma water heaters.

Scanned the recall posts, not sure of exactly the part your referring to but searching I did find that Oliver had their own NHTSA recall due to this, which means they have to pay the costs (see below)

4 hours ago, Tom and Doreen said:

That was big of Oliver.  In my opinion Truma clearly had an engineering problem but didn't have the capacity to correct all the units in the field.  Oliver really stepped up and backed their customers; awesome! 

I was curious so I did a little digging. Apparently (this could be faulty information), in the event of a RV recall, the RV OEM is required to pay all costs. Looking at NHTSA rules it looks like it applies to RV’s equally with automobiles

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for RV safety recalls, the manufacturer is legally required to pay for both the parts and the labor (installation). The repair is performed at no cost to the owner through an authorized dealer, covering all associated labor expenses

If true it’s the cost of doing business. 🤷‍♂️