RustyMD Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I will try to attach pictures, but the question is this: one of my individual push button lights with the short gooseneck wire cover has come loose at the base. It is hanging by the two wires. The wire go through the gooseneck and then thru a hollow bolt and then thru the base that is attached to the ceiling/under cabinet. A nut inside/on top of the base has apparently come loose. QUESTION…what the heck are the fasteners holding the base to the fiberglass? They look like rivets. They don’t seem to be hex/Allen or torx/star. I can’t remove the base for what should be a simple fix. Help. Robert Youens 2023 LEII Hull #1304 TV 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi e-torque with tow package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Davies Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Those are common aluminum pop rivets, you must drill off the heads and install new ones. Obviously you will need to buy a rivet gun and appropriately sized rivets. They look like 1/8”, so start with a 1/8” drill bit. If they are larger ,then go up in size. Wear eye protection and put down cardboard first. https://arrowfastener.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/RT187M-Rivet-Guide.pdf You could file a warranty claim, but who knows how long that will take….. BTW those are called reading lights. John Davies Spokane WA 4 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II NARV (Not An RV) Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/topic/john-e-davies-how-to-threads-and-tech-articles-links/ Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 33" LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivernerd Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 It looks in this photo like the top of the flex housing is threaded. Have you tried twisting it into a vertical position, then screwing it back in to the flange above it? If this method works, it would be easier than drilling out and replacing the pop rivets, after securing the flex housing to the flange in some way. 3 Hull #1291 Central Idaho 2022 Elite II Tow Vehicle: 2019 Tundra Double Cab 4x4, 5.7L with tow package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyMD Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 Thanks. Robert Youens 2023 LEII Hull #1304 TV 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi e-torque with tow package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyMD Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 I’ll try turning the housing/base in the morning. 1 Robert Youens 2023 LEII Hull #1304 TV 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi e-torque with tow package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 @RustyMD If you don’t have success with fixing it, submit a warranty work ticket for a replacement. Oliver is excellent about getting replacement parts out fast in my experience. I have typically only waited 3-4 business days maximum for a replacement part for example (touch lights) after the work ticket is processed and the item is shipped. I suggest consider registering here for warranty claims or even if you’re out of warranty and need a replacement part. Your claim is opened and tracked and you also will be notified by email when your replacement part ships. https://support.olivertraveltrailers.com/portal/en/signin Patriot🇺🇸 2020 OLEII - Hull #634 aka- “Beauty & the Beast” - 2021 F350 6.7 liter Diesel Lariat Ultimate Tremor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph and Dud B Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 8 hours ago, Rivernerd said: It looks in this photo like the top of the flex housing is threaded. Correct. One of ours started to come loose and we just twisted it back in. 1 Stephanie and Dudley from CT. 2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior. Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4. Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed Where we've been RVing since 1999: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mossemi Posted April 26 Moderators Share Posted April 26 9 hours ago, Rivernerd said: It looks in this photo like the top of the flex housing is threaded. This is the OEM light hull 193 was equipped with. My best guess is that the nut and washer is loose and will be impossible to get back on the hollow bolt. You can remove the rubber mat in the cabinet and locate the top of the fixture, it will be under the black tape corresponding with the fixture location. If you attempt this method I think it would be beneficial to pre twist the wires in the opposite direction so that they straighten out when you thread the stem back in. Mossey 7 Mike and Krunch Lutz, FL 2017 LEII #193 “the dog house” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mossemi Posted April 28 Moderators Share Posted April 28 (edited) Revisiting my post above, I don’t think you can complete this repair without drilling out the rivets. The nut and washer have to be trapped in the chrome base which is still attached to the bottom of the cabinet. The hole in the cabinet that the wiring passes through is not large enough for you to work through to line up the washer and nut. And of course there is no way to get a wrench on the nut to secure it either. And I will add that the lights I installed are screw mounted, not riveted. The lights Oliver installed are riveted. Sorry if I miss directed you with my first post! Mossey Edited April 30 by mossemi typo correction 1 3 Mike and Krunch Lutz, FL 2017 LEII #193 “the dog house” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddymv Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 This happened tome recently. Very easy fix. Drill out the two rivets. Tighten up the nut inside the housing and then put two new rivets back in. Easier done than said. Good luck 4 2022 Elite 2 twin. Hull1273 2021 Tundra Crew Crab V8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyMD Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 I don’t know how to hook my response to a previous post but responding to Caddymv; what you did is my plan. Question: what size bit did you use to drill out the rivet and what size and length rivet did you use. Thanks Robert Youens 2023 LEII Hull #1304 TV 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi e-torque with tow package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim and Chris Neuman Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Even better than new rivets, use a couple of stainless pan head screws sized slightly larger than the hole left from drilling out the rivet. A number 6 may work but, more likely, a number 8. Just take care not to open up the fastener hole in the fibreglass when you drill out the rivet. If these ever need to be backed out you just unscrew them eliminating the need to re-drill out replacement pop rivets. Screw length should be just long enough to engage the full thickness of the glass skin. I did this when a light in the galley area failed. I believe a 1/2" screw would be adequate to engage the outer layer of the laminate without going completely through the coring - you don't want the screw to be so long that it pokes through into the cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyMD Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 The pan head screws may be fine. The top of the light is behind a porthole cover in the cabinet above the cooktop. Unfortunately not such that my fingers can get positioned well enough to do anything from the top. Robert Youens 2023 LEII Hull #1304 TV 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi e-torque with tow package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddymv Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Sorry. Don’t remember the exact size. I started small. And you can go bigger as needed. I think I used a 1 8th drill bit 2022 Elite 2 twin. Hull1273 2021 Tundra Crew Crab V8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyMD Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 Follow up and result. I drilled out the rivet. 1/8” bit. I rigged a guard so I wouldn’t go to deep at first. I’ll try to add a picture. The nut was off inside the cover and this was reattached and I applied a drop of removable Loctite. Used the drill bit to push the rivet stem thru the fiberglass above. Lined up the holes and replaced the original rivets with 1/8” diameter by 1/2” length aluminum rivets. 1 3 Robert Youens 2023 LEII Hull #1304 TV 2022 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi e-torque with tow package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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