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Doug, I have moved this discussion to a more appropriate thread..... See the new topic: "Twin Bed Discussion"

Stuart, The terminating end of the gas line that runs down the centerline of the under-belly of the Oliver is a plug. You could easily remove this and run your own gas line to any place you wanted. The company has made it easy to modify their product to any degree of customization you might desire.

Hi Doug, Tali and I chose the twin bed model (with modifications) for the in part for the extra storage space. In a unit this small storage is at a premium. With this option, you get a drawer under the rear sleeping space that would have been the area under the table in the standard Oliver. This drawer is easily the capacity of the other three combined. You also get extra counter space of about 4 square feet. Under that counter there is another storage area of the same size. This area is more difficult to access as you get to it from under the drop-leaf table that is installed in lieu of the standard rear dinette, but we find it very handy to store items that you don't need very often such as extra soft drinks, water, canned goods, etc. An added benefit to this area is that items can’t slide out of it during travel. In Oliver’s standard twin bed option you also lose the front dinette. We choose to keep that and to make it into the bed when needed. We felt that this was the best option for our needs. This modification gives us more storage, more floor space, more counter top area and generally a more open feeling/look to an already small space.

Hi Kyle, I posted this same response in another thread, but will repeat it here in case you missed it there.... I am at work today, but I will try to get some pictures of the modification up tonight after I get home. I know a picture would be better than all these words but basically, what I had Daniel do is to weld a piece of aluminum tubing onto the rear of each frame rail. They are mounted far enough from the end of the rail to still allow the rear bumper to fold down. He drilled a hole thru each to receive a hitch pin. My plan is to build a rear carrier that utilizes both of these at the same time by sliding into and extending between each of them. I will fabricate the frame of the carrier to bring it up once it clears the rear bumper. This will eliminate any chance of it dragging when going thru any low spots. Although it would, I don’t plan on this rack being required to carry huge amounts of weight, probably 100 pounds or less. I plan to make it out of 1 inch tubing and expanded wire. If you go to: http://www.flickr.com/groups/oliver-trailers/ you can see some pictures that I posted of the under construction. Pict 5075 and Pict 5094 shows the longer tongue and, if you look closely in Pict 5105, you can just see the receivers welded under the frame rails. I'll take some new pictures tonight that will show the finished product and how it looks. Any other info I can share, I will be glad to do so... Steve

Hi Herm, I am at work today, but I will try to get some pictures of the modification up tonight after I get home. I know a picture would be better than all these words but basically, what I had Daniel do is to weld a piece of aluminum tubing onto the rear of each frame rail. They are mounted far enough from the end of the rail to still allow the rear bumper to fold down. He drilled a hole thru each to receive a hitch pin. My plan is to build a rear carrier that utilizes both of these at the same time by sliding into and extending between each of them. I will fabricate the frame of the carrier to bring it up once it clears the rear bumper. This will eliminate any chance of it dragging when going thru any low spots. Although it would, I don’t plan on this rack being required to carry huge amounts of weight, probably 100 pounds or less. I plan to make it out of 1 inch tubing and expanded wire. If you go to: http://www.flickr.com/groups/oliver-trailers/ you can see some pictures that I posted of the under construction. Pict 5075 and Pict 5094 shows the longer tongue and, if you look closely in Pict 5105, you can just see the receivers welded under the frame rails. I'll take some new pictures tonight that will show the finished product and how it looks. Any other info I can share, I will be glad to do so... Steve

The shore power cord can be used with any length unrolled. Presently at my home I have a hook up mounted inside the building where the is stored. I only have to extend it about 4 feet. The power reel is a really nice option. I would not have considered deleting it. I doubt that you would gain over one cubic foot of "extra" storage space. And that space would be virtually inaccessable under the front dinette seating area. As far as the number of units in production at one time, I have been to the factory 4 times over the past 4 months. There have always been about 5-6 trailers coming down the line in various stages of construction. There are usually 2-3 more sitting there waiting for pickup. It is fun to be able to drop in and see your Oliver under construction. We only had a couple of major mods made to our trailer. We had our tongue made longer to enable the rear gate of our Jeep to open without hitting the generator mounting. We also had a 2 inch receiver mounted on each of the aft ends of our frame rails. This will allow me to construct a basket to carry misc. stuff on the outside. We also opted for the twin bed model (in a modified form-there were certain aspects of the original design we didn't want to lose.) There is a considerable amount of "extra" storage space with this configuration.

Have owned several brake controllers thru the years, always a Tekonsha, this time the Prodigy... Stuart, VERY wise about the mounting position.

And, quite possibly, be bulletproof as well.....

One person can put the awning up in a couple of minutes. The support poles can either be placed on the ground (and staked, if necessary) or secured back to the side of the Oliver. I have only had our Oliver a week and have only put it up once. I have never put one up before. I found it to be very easy.

CarolAnn, Many times I have seen that genre of trailer refered to as "Stick and Tin"

Doug, I know you will be very happy with your new Oliver. My wife, Tali, and I just took delivery on our last week. We could not be happier with it. We made no omissions to the package that comes with the Legacy Elite as the options included met all our needs. We did add the convection microwave so as to have some additional cooking options. We also added the Aluminum wheels and 8-ply tires, the lift kit, a gen-set hookup, double pane windows and the backup camera. I also had the factory modify my frame to give me a longer tongue as our current TV is a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. It has a back gate that opens like a door and we needed room for it to swing over the tongue without hitting the basket for the generator. In addition, I had them add two receivers on the rear of the frame so I can attach a rear carrier if I want to. Anything you want done, the Oliver crew will make every attempt to do as they are truly outstanding. I overheard Jim Oliver tell one of his crew "We never tell a customer 'That can't be done'." Everyone else has already been over several other very useful options and I echo their statements on them. We opted for the twin bed model. We decided that, with the additional floor space and storage room, it was worth giving up sleeping in the same bed. We also have a large dog that will be traveling with us and he needs room also. I will be happy to send you some pictures of our interior if you think it would help in your decision making process. PM me with your e-mail with any questions and I will be glad to provide any info I can...

Check the thread "Hello All". Robert addresses this issue in the last post. Not knowing the chemical makeup of the products used in the production of the Oliver shell, I could not say what is used. From a personal standpoint, however, I visited the Oliver plant 4 times during the process of getting the "Outlaw Oliver" and there was the strong smell of fiberglass resin present in the building. This would be expected since the only thing they do there is produce fiberglass products. The trailers themselves, however, don't have any residual odor from that manufacturing process. Now that she is home, aside from a faint flowery smell from the chemicals put into the black tank, there is nothing. Since there are no pressed wood products or carpeting in the trailer, I don’t think you will find any objectionable odors in the Oliver. Hope this helps...

Hi Tigrrr, Having only picked up the Outlaw Oliver this past weekend, I have no experience with cold weather usage of same. However, here in the balmy South, I can attest to its warm weather characteristics. After we arrived home Sunday, we pulled the trailer into the driveway and left it sitting. I knew its location would put it into direct sunlight most of every day so I slid a couple of the windows open slightly, opened the Fantastic Fan and set the thermostat to come on when the temp went up. The next morning I went out to check on it fully expecting it to be like an oven on the inside. The fan was running and it was actually cooler inside than outside. I worked inside for about an hour or so and the breeze being pulled thru the windows was so pleasant I decided not to turn on the A/C. That being said, theoretically if the insulation has the ability to retard heat from being transmitted into the shell, it should have the same capability to retard heat from escaping the shell. Overall, I'm very pleased (and pleasantly surprised) with the insulation qualities. Hope this helps....

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Well, we made it home with the new Outlaw Oliver, here's some pics....

Hello Everybody, Tom is right, whatever length safety chains you need they will be included with your Oliver. We just took delivery of ours yesterday (06-21-08). We had our frame construction modified at the factory and one of the mods was a longer tongue. Therefore we needed a different length chain from the standard. Don't worry, yours will be just like it needs to be....

The French Broad is a beautiful river running through North Carolina and Tennessee. It flows near the Biltmore House in Ashville. It was originally just one of two broad (wide) Rivers in western North Carolina . The one which flowed North into French Colonial territory was named the French Broad and the other which stayed in English territory (the American colonies) was named the English Broad, now just known as the Broad River.

Hi Pete, Our plan is to drive up to Hohenwald tomorrow (Thursday) evening and spend the night at the Goodenough Inn. I know this place comes with outstanding recommendations!!! The next morning we will meet at the factory and get started on our orientation. Since we are neophytes, we'll need all the help we can get. I suppose we'll spend the first day trying to decide where to put all our new "stuff." I know we'll stay the night at the campground there and then I don't know what we'll do, maybe drive on down the road and find another place to stay. It's only about 130 miles from home, so we might come closer. We need to be back home sometime Sunday afternoon. Anyway...we're excited, this is something we've wanted to do for a long time. We have the three dogs but we don't plan to include them on this trip. Storm is so big, I'm not sure how he'll take to the inside of the trailer. Maggie and Lucy would fit just fine but they're hard to keep up with. Wish us luck, there seems to be so much to learn and remember.

Tali and I pick up the new Outlaw Oliver on Friday, June 20th. We have been buying all sorts of stuff to carry on the maiden voyage, new dishes, pots and pans, bed linens...just like moving into a really small new house. We have dubbed our Oliver the because it is a family name-no reference to any unsavory behavior! We asked the the high stop light say "Outlaw" to display this. We are excited to be joining the ranks of such a great group of travelers that have gone before us and hope to meet all of you out on the road somewhere.

All that being said.... The main thing that would keep me from wanting a diesel vehicle is the availability of fuel. The next time you are filling up at your local station, look for the diesel pump. Unless it's a major station or a truck stop, there probably won't be one. Sam's Clubs (with very few exceptions according to my internet search) doesn't carry it, Kroger (where we get an additional 10 cents per gallon off with their card) doesn't carry it and I can't think of a station in our area that's convenient that does. I borrowed my son-in-law's gigantic Ford Pickup a couple of times to go off on canoeing trips in Arkansas and several times I worried that we would run out of fuel before we found a station that sold diesel. Obviously, whenever we found it, we bought it no matter what the price. The primary reason that there are few diesel vehicles produced for the US market has always been that the infrastructure for delivering gasoline for private use is in place making it much more readily available.

Hello Everybody, I have posted a few pics of the Outlaw Oliver under construction. Tali and I visited with Robert on the fifth of June to see how the new baby was progressing. It's nice to live close enough to be able to drive up easily. This made our third trip. We pick up the Outlaw this coming Friday, June 20. It's getting close. I threw in a pic of the new TV. Sorry Mountainborn, it's not white. A close inspection of the tongue will show this Ollie will be the first of its kind. I talked Daniel into allowing me to re-engineer the frame a little bit. I have an extra 26 inches in addition to the extention. This will allow room for a generator box and have enough room to open the rear gate of the Jeep. We also added two receivers to the rear of the frame for attaching a carrier that I will weld up after delivery.

We have a back yard surrounded by a tall brick fence. There are two twelve foot drive thru gates. We plan to keep our Oliver in the back behind the fence. I have looked around locally and we plan to have a company come out and erect a steel canopy similar to the one in the picture. It is about as cheap as building it myself and a whole lot faster and easier. Has anyone had any experience with these buildings and if so, any thoughts about them?

Hey Mountainborn and Butcherknife.... That does sound like fun. Tali and I hope to be picking up our Oliver the very day you plan to leave. We got our new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited this afternoon so we're all set, just need a trailer now. We have that very trip planned for later this fall, probably around the first couple weeks in October. We want to go up around Moab also. We were out there a couple of years ago and really loved it. Thanks for talking with me on the phone earlier today. Your advice is appreciated. Hope to get to meet you somewhere soon out on the road. Would love to do some geocaching or, maybe someday, some diving with you. Keep us posted and take lots of pictures...

Actually that is the weight for the trailer the common options installed. That would not include the modifications on the suspension etc. It still allows you to add a reasonable amount of cargo and keep it below the 3500 lb axle rating. Unless you are trying to haul rocks like Lucy and Ricky did, you should be able to expect a trailer weighing in at under 3500 lbs. Hope this helps....

Hello everybody, With our new Oliver on the way, we were looking at tow vehicles also. We had a 2005 Yukon 4WD leased but that was up the first of this month and we turned it in. I have a 1992 Jeep Wrangler that would do a pretty good job of towing, but it's 16+ years old and I don't want to get too far out of town with it. We too love the mountains and have a big trip planned for this fall to the western states. With that in mind, we have ordered a 2008 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. I'm confident that if it's good enough for mountainborn, it will be good enough for us. We do plan to do a little off road camping so I think the Jeep will fill the bill for us.......Now, if we could just get the boys at Oliver to get our trailer finished...