SeaDawg

Tom and Karen, I have tears in my eyes writing this post. A big virtual hug from your friends in Florida. We'll see you soon, we hope. All our best, Sherry and Paul

We unfortunately have plans for that week. Wish we could go. Who else?

We unfortunately have plans for that week. Wish we could go. Who else?

John, your warning is correct and useful, and I agree. Both power dollies came with warnings about slopes. I should have explained the slight incline better... Even moving up a normal short suburban driveway with its drainage pitch of perhaps an eighth to a quarter inch per foot is tough with the eze tug, unless we add weight to the bed in back to lighten the tongue.

After 8 years in the legacy I, it would be impossible to ignore the advantages for a solo traveler. Sherry

Looks great. Two very nice addition s to the turtle. I know from personal experience that the rv gutter takes time and patience. But worth it in the long run.

Larry, so glad you and Betty were equipped and ready to help. As you two often are... Two of the most generous and knowledgeable people in camping that I have ever met. We've used the shark bite connectors for modifications, and they're great. No special tools. Intuitive. Here in Florida, pex is uncommon. PVC and cpvc rule. To find a qualified plumber for pex plumbing in our new home, I had to call the supplier home office. To use pex in the fire suppression system, we had to petition the county to adopt a newer code. Pex is the best, imo. We used uponor. Unbelievable manufacturer support. But I digress. Many of us don't have 40 or 60 dollar crimping tools in the box. (Uponor doesn't use them). So, shark bite fittings, at a few bucks more, per fitting, for a seldom or never used spare part, can make perfect sense for many of us. Easily available at HD, or Lowe's under their blue hawk label, it's still not a bad thing to have a half inch coupler in the spares box, for 6 or 8 bucks. Who knows, you may never need it. But, like Larry and Betty, you may save the day for someone else.</p> <p style="text-align: left;">Sherry</p>

We've found the undercover works well for us. It's strong and light. Easily removed We've even removed it and carried it like a shark fin when we bring the ATV home. Looks strange on its side, but hey, who cares. I can, and have stood on it. To remove it is two pins and a couple minute s. I understand from friends that the undercover now comes with a single lock mechanism. Ours ...at 7 years of age... Requires two turns of the key. Daily life is good. We lower the lid over outsized items, and bungee or strap the lid down routinely without issue. Sherry PS bacon is a staple, right?

Roberth,thanks for the info. I think many of us will find it helpful. John, the team, and especially Matt, work hard to make the site accessible and as quick as possible. Fixes can take time, with the proliferation of devices,os,and browsers. Seems like some one os or browser gets short shrift with every forum in which I participate. As you well know, a fix for most can actually slow others. Sorry if that has happened to you. This one moves faster than I can work on my tablet, lol. Our hope here for all concerned is to provide a congenial free exchange of ideas on our favorite topic here, Oliver travel trailers. For all of you, if you have an issue, please feel free to pm one of the mods. We thank all of you for great ideas and thoughtful contributions. Any forum is a work in progress, and in its new form, this one especially. Thanks for all your patience, everyone, as we move forward. Sherry

We used to go to DC every other year in October, til the Solar Decathlon was moved from the capital mall to the wet coast. Greenbelt cg is very convenient to the greenbelt/university metro station, as well as shoppi g and dining. The College Park IKEA is a great source for storage and kitchen items. I have skubb containers, hanging rack, and dish drainer among other items from there in our trailer. It is a long walk from the station to the campground, and take a flashlight if you decide to walk. You can park at the station for a reasonable fee, and be at the capital in 30 or 40 minutes. No hookups that i remember, which was fine. Plenty of choices for spots in October. We also camped at Pohick Bay Regional park in Virginia. Deer in our site every night, but still only 45 minutes by metro to the capital mall, Smithsonian, etc. We drove 10 minutes to the Springfield mall, parked in the designated floors of the Macys lot, and took the shuttle to the metro. Shuttle was 25 cents then. There is a waterpark at Pohick, but it is closed by October. Not crowded. Facilities were newer and nicer at Pohick, and electricity available, but twice tbe price of Greenbelt. right off 95, it is quite convenient if comi g in from the south. I recommend both. sherry

We have a manual trailer dolly, the ez tug, and a parkit 360, and the smaller Legacy I. The manual dolly works best in tight corners on a flat, smooth driveway, with two or three people to push the trailer. The ez tug works, but is slow, the tire goes flat, and runs the battery down quickly. Also best suited to flat and smooth terrain, it requires an extra person or two pushing on a slight incline or rough surface. I do like how the wheel is mounted, and that it doesnt use the hitch as the pivot point. The parkit 360, much like the ebay kit, has its own battery, but uses the hitch as the pivot point. It takes some finicky adjustments and a learning curve to use it, but it gets the job done without human auxilliary power. On grass or soft ground, we move plywood 2 x 8 sheets under the trailer and tug whheels to ease travel. It will handle a slight incline, and allows us to back the trailer through the gates and onto turf block parking pad with shell fill. The tough part of the 360 is the tongue isnt quite level, so it puts more weight on the tongue. We bought a used large model (they come in sizes m,l,and xl). I doubt ours would work for tbe bigger Legacy II. I do not remember the rating on the xl, but I would be skeptical. Sherry e

Congrats, and welcome to the forum! Sherry

2 x 6 and 2 x 8 cutoffs work fine for us. We always have replacement scrap lumber. Like John, we carry a little Honda 1000 to recharge batteries if we have a series of days with no sun. We have 200 watts of solar. If it gsets hot enough to need ac, we move on to someplace cooler. Hope you enjoy your Oliver as much as we enjoy ours. Our 8 years of Oliver camping have been wonderful. sherry

Congrats, and welcome to the forum. Sherry

Thanks, Hidalga. Also thank you for all the work you do to make the egg rv rally map. It's awesome. Paul and I are thinking of making the detour to the rally, as we have a wedding to attend later in the month up north. Oliver owners... Is anyone else registered? We've been to a few rallies, not many, but it's always great to meet other fiberglass rv owners. No matter the brand, we've found the owners of glass are just a whole bunch of fun. Great to swap camping stories, and information on the best places to visit, with people of a similar mindset. Sherry

John, if you haven't already found the links, going rv is on Great American Country, if you have that station. In our area, there's a marathon of season one tomorrow night. You can also stream it on Amazon. (They have the usual one month free trial going on. Actually, Amazon prime is a good deal if you purchase much through amazon online, and they have some great tv content, as well.) I didn't find it in our netflix offerings. Sherry

Thanks, Larry. I've looked at the Camp Chef and Coleman. Amazon also has a Martin model, a little heavier, a little higher priced, and a little higher temp. However, Amazon is the only place in the US I've seen it for sale. Seems to be primarily sold in Canada. Sherry

Larry, what brand is Betty's oven and cooktop? I've been thinking about asking for one in my "Dear Santa" letter this year. I know Betty loves hers. I do most of my cooking on the campfire, when possible, but on rainy days, it would sure be nice to cook outside under cover. Some of the rental RVs we've used had ovens, and I have to admit, it's really nice to be able to make a quiche and muffins on a rainy day. In the top photo, the table top appears to be some type of plastic. Are these well-insulated enough to use on a plastic picnic table? Thanks. Sherry

Hidalga, I don't think your account lockout was intentional. We had a number of problems with the old site... good members got locked out for no reason. I'm sorry, and glad you're back on the new forum site to keep us informed on the event. Are there still sound front sites available? Sherry PS Should you ever have a problem with this site, you can pm me thru the Fiberglass rv forum, where my member name is SherrynPaul.

Wasn't that a sweet gift. Sherry

Our ollie is in NC for the summer... out of the heat. Don't know of any legacy units in the keys. Yes, the build quality is amazing. I'm in total agreement on that. Our sailboat (CSY) was overbuilt, as is the Oliver. Meant to last. Sailboat is 40 years old, Ollie is 8. We expect a long, long life from both. Sherry

Randy, I just thought about this. Where are you? Anywhere near one of us with an original 2008/2009 legacy I that you could see? Sherry

OK, I'm back. Daughter's bus was two hours early in arriving from port of Miami. (Now, isn't that a surprise) I only saw one of the new Elites briefly at a factory visit, so I'll compare as best as I can from memory. The molds used are the same from the 2008/2009 models to the 2016/17. So, bathroom, closet, seats, bed size, refrigerator size, etc. are all the same. Some differences I noted, that I like, are the fibergranite tabletop and the wheel well trim fins. (Liked the fins so much we had them added to ours. Nice completing detail, and done very inexpensively and quickly on a factory visit.) I suspect you could get the fibergranite tabletop fairly reasonably, too. I haven't decided on that, though it's quite attractive. I may change ours to wood someday. Or not. Our tabletop is usually covered by a tablecloth, so, might not be worth the change. The heater location has changed from under the cutlery drawer to under the forward small dinette seat. Nice location. Our trailers used that space for a power reel for the electrical cord. That's a tradeoff, and depends on a. how often do you run the furnace and so forth b. how often do you plug in, and where you store the electrical cord. Our furnace heats the trailer just fine where it is. Tom and Karen have done some updates to their trailer along the way. I believe they have the awesome double step (which we added, too), which is a great option. I believe this is an option on the newer trailers, not standard. Aside from different flooring and fabric options, I think the only other big difference is all LED lighting in the new version of the smaller trailer. We changed over some of our lights (the few that we use all the time) for a few dollars with new bulbs, so that's probably an easy fix for you, too, if you want all LED. And, our cabinets are accessed by marine style sliding doors instead of the drop down doors on the newer models. The fire extinguisher is mounted on the wall, and we have mirrored closet doors. I believe the new ones have a molded closet door, with the fire extinguisher inset into the door. We have about 80,000 miles on ours (compared to Pete's almost 100k). The marine gelcoat interior and exterior clean up so very nicely and easily, and we receive constant comments about how new ours looks at eight+ years of age. Karen and Tom have taken great care of theirs, and looks like new to me. Hope this helps. If you have other questions, fire away, and one of us will try to answer. Sherry Well, that's what I can remember for differences.

Welcome to the forum, Randy. Your F150 is a great choice. We've towed our 2008 17 (now rebadged as the 18.5, which includes bumper to tongue in the measurement. The molds are the same) with our Volvo xc90, our Silverado, and our Dodge Ram 1500. Both the trucks have done an admirable job, and a half-ton is gracious plenty as a tow vehicle. The Volvo is rated to 4900 lbs, and did fine on our inaugral run from Florida to NC to Hohenwald and home via the panhandle. I wouldn't want to tow the Oliver up mountains with it, though. We have never used a sway bar or Anderson hitch, and never felt the need. I'm sure Oliver could install one for you, if you decided you wanted one, but I don't know of a single 17 with an Anderson or sway bar. We've camped with Tom and Karen a number of times. They're great people, and take wonderful care of their Oliver. I've got to run now and pick up my daughter, who is returning from a cruise. I'll add more later. Sherry

As a kid on the farm, haying was one pf my favorite times. Dad and his siblings moved from family farm to farm, so we got to spend lots of time with our cousins. Wonderful, hot, smelly days. And wonderful suppers on the big table. Sherry