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I’ve seen it occasionally over the past few weeks. I’ll mention it to the admin.

I don’t know about the kitchen counter, but the bath vanity is glued in place and is very difficult to remove. Not impossible, just extremely difficult. Essentially, you’ll have to cut through the glue joints. The bath vanity can be removed in one piece that way, but I’d guess that the kitchen counter would have to be taken out in pieces. Everything else is designed to be easily removable.

That’s the one I was looking at when I was thinking about doing the same. Or the squarish version of it I think. I believe we had a thread about this a few years ago discussing options for both antennas and masts 🤔. I ran into a campground host at Glacier who had an antenna setup, and said that it did the job.

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that before. I doubt that I’ll have any reason to replace mine anytime soon, but then if I need a reason I can invent one.

I’d check the size of the GX Touch vs the Zamp. It might not be big enough to cover the hole. I know that, unfortunately for me, it’s smaller than the cutout for their Color Control Display.

A lot of used Airstreams on the market? I kid. Airstreams are great, but different. They offer a classic style, comfort, great finishes, larger size, and floor plan options. I’d be proud to own one. An Oliver, on the other hand, offers a style and comfort of its own; but more importantly, it offers practicality. It was our choice, and we’re just as proud. It’s up to each buyer to decide which one meets her or his wants and needs the best. Frankly, it’s pretty amazing that a little startup from Hohenwald, TN is even given consideration as an equal to an absolute giant like Airstream. I suppose they must be doing something right.

I don't think that I've ever been concerned about theft, so much as it seemed like something I should be concerned about. I've never had a lock of any sort, but I have an oddball hitch that's probably better security anyway. And we have a Spot Trace that I still keep up the service on, though I often wonder why. My concern level - Likelihood of Catastrophic Loss: highway accident fire tornado theft mutant fiberglass eating termites

I use these Steelcore tie downs to secure stuff in the bed of the truck. They're heavy fabric with a steel cable inside. I figure that they're about as secure as a standard cable, but they can be rolled up pretty compactly and don't require a separate lock, so they're easy to store. They're supposed to be very difficult to cut with a bolt cutter, but I suspect that the latch is an easy target. Like most other solutions, they're primarily a deterrent and to prevent crimes of opportunity. You can get them keyed alike if you have more than one. The only drawback is that they hold water if they get wet - no big deal. They're stiffer to use than a standard strap, but that's to be expected, and they seem to tighten up well, regardless. They also sell the strap with loops on both ends for use with a padlock. I don't know if you'd be able to get the loop through the openings in the wheels, though.

I think you’d get equal or better protection just tethering the wheels together with a chain and padlock. Maybe that particular device is stronger than it looks, but from the photos it looks like you could just pry off the lock with a good pair of vice grips. Or bend back the clamp with a pipe.

It's an adjustable table - you can check out the website here: https://www.lagunusa.com I think that Oliver will still only do one with the king bed arrangement, but you can also do one in a twin bed model but as a DIY -

I don’t know about Texas hogs but I’ve seen a few near the border in Arkansas that would give a grizzly second thoughts.

Well, our deer are also better looking.

That definitely won't happen. I will break the news to you though that there are more deer in TN than Montana.

Voyager, I think you may have misinterpreted Russell's remark. I don't think he was referring to Montana or Montanans. You'll find that this forum is a pretty chill place*, so I wouldn't try to read too much into any one post. I'll echo his remark though by saying that I've never encountered any baddies while out camping - whether in the middle of nowhere or in campgrounds. But that would be another topic that's been discussed many times here. *something that we'd like to maintain

Well, it answers a different question I had. It sounds to me like an Oliver would be a bad fit for you. Like I said in the beginning - it depends on your needs and priorities and it sounds like you need a larger trailer. I think you'll enjoy the Airstream much more. Best of luck to you!

I want to see this new black awning. Is it really just solid black, or is it black grey wavy stripey whatever that is called black? Our are solid black, so obviously I think it's a good choice - but I'll be disappointed of course if it's no longer a Snowball exclusive. 😢😛

Not to sidetrack the topic into all toilet talk, but can those who don't like the wet bath explain to me exactly what it is that bothers people? It's a genuine question - not trying to be snarky or anything. It's just not something that even crossed my or my wife's mind when we were looking, so I don't really get why it seems to be a big sticking point for other buyers. Is it that you feel like you'll have to dry off the toilet to use it, or you don't want to look at it, or does it just make the bath feel institutional? I'm wondering if the shower curtain that we installed makes the difference for us. Functionally, it does keep the toilet dry and hidden. And it also makes the space just nicer feeling, which I do understand and appreciate. I'm curious if Oliver made a shower curtain standard, and photographed it that way, if people would still feel as strongly about it.

Well, there isn’t any. The extra foot in width and slightly longer length gives the Airstream about 20 extra square feet of space. 20 square feet is literally 10 feet of counter space. So the real question is maybe what has Airstream done with all that extra square footage? And I think the answer is that generally they put it into amenities that, IMO, make the trailer more attractive and ‘livable’ than functional. More seating, more windows, etc. If you want to sit in your trailer and feel like you’re in a living room, then absolutely buy an airstream. But if functionality and practicality are your priorities, then the smaller size and added storage of the Oliver will suit you better. Fridge size is kind of debatable. I mean, Oliver could put in a full height fridge and move the microwave into the cabinets under the stove, but that’s obviously a trade off that many people, including us, wouldn’t like. For me, I’ve found that a 12 volt freezer in the truck negates the need for more fridge space, and is infinitely more useful. Also, looking at the 23’ Airstream, the bath arrangement is pretty odd. It looks like to use the toilet you have to refold the doors to make the room bigger, and it seems redundant to have the bath vanity open to the cabin just a few steps from the kitchen sink. Plus like Susan said, the toilet is like 24” from the bed - convenient maybe, but...awkward.

I'd also add that the upper cabinets are the most difficult to plan for - since the back wall is curved, knowing just the length and height may lead you to assume that something will fit when it won't. I made quite a few trips out to the trailer when we were looking for storage ideas, measuring depth and height to see if things would fit.

Oliver needs to update that comparison page now that Airstream has given up on the Nest.

Take a look at a few of the topics below - I think they'll give you a good idea of the pros and cons. You'll find that most Oliver owners appreciate Airstreams and will give you honest opinions of what they like and dislike about each. For me, I think that the differences are pretty cut and dry (you'll see a few of my posts in the links), and since they're both great trailers, any preference for one over the other will ultimately come down to personal taste and priorities.

Kidding aside, I think a bottle jack or something like what I have is probably the best answer if you don’t feel comfortable using the stabilizers.

I have a Baja style high lift jack from Pro Eagle that can lift the trailer pretty handily. But honestly, I think using it to press the down button on the stabilizer is much more of a hassle than just using your finger. 😜

Thanks for the post. Original ones are available, though difficult to find, and ridiculously expensive. It's nice to know of an affordable alternative.

If the owners would like one of us to remove it, we can; or if they want to leave it on the market for the right buyer they can certainly do that, too. It’s not really our decision to make for them.