Imelda Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Hi, all. I want to buy a small portable quiet generator to charged up my Oliver when dry camping. My question is if the model I want to order A-ipower Yamaha generator 1800 running watts with peak wattage 2300W would have enough power to run the AC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairon Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 It'll be enough provided you add the EasyStart option or install it yourself. 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser 2021 Oliver Elite II, Hull #748 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 15, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2021 Imelda, which ac unit do you have in your trailer? My sister had the same genset. It would not run her dometic 13,500 ac. She did not have the soft start. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imelda Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 It's a Dometic ac unit but i am not sure of the model as I cannot find it in the Oliver manual. Likely the 13500 unit. How do I go about adding the soft start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideandfly Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) Run Ollie's Dometic 13.5K AC with a 2000W Honda gen-set that puts out 1600W continuous with the Micro-Air 364 Easy Start unit installed. Used this gen-set/AC combination up to 3700 feet above sea level without issues, have not needed Gen-Set/AC above that elevation, normally have shore power during most camping trips. Used same Gen-Set to operate the Suburban 6 gallon electric water heater at 5000 feet above sea level without issues. Installed a Micro Air 364 on Ollie's Dometic 13.5K AC following their installation instructions, may have emailed their service representative during the afternoon installation. https://www.microair.net/collections/easystart-soft-starters/products/easystart-364-3-ton-single-phase-soft-starter-for-air-conditioners Here's Micro Air's RV installation video: Here's Micro Air's service/sales representative installing a 364 Easy Start during an Oliver Rally: Edited March 15, 2021 by rideandfly 1 1 Bill & Debbie / 2015 LE2 #75 / 2024 F-150/5.0L / North Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imelda Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 All, thank you but I am not going to install a soft start - no way am I getting up on the roof. So can anyone recommend a quiet, portable generator, not too heavy that can run the Oliver ac without adding a soft start. I have a champion 4KW that does the job but its noisy and heavy so I want someone lighter, quiet, easy start and reliable with enough power to run the ac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 15, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2021 You could also call your local rv repair and see what they'd charge to install the soft start. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 15, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2021 Or, you could buy a pair of the ai generators, and connect them with the supplied parallel cables. 1 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Imelda said: All, thank you but I am not going to install a soft start - no way am I getting up on the roof. So can anyone recommend a quiet, portable generator, not too heavy that can run the Oliver ac without adding a soft start. I have a champion 4KW that does the job but its noisy and heavy so I want someone lighter, quiet, easy start and reliable with enough power to run the ac Search "Generator" and you'll find about 1500 opinions. Personally I use the Honda EU2200i. Many use the Honda EU200i, some Yamaha's, and recently the Harbor Freight inverter line (Predator's) is gaining acceptance with a bit more power (3,00 to 3,500 watts). Honda have as many believe the best reputation, but they are also expensive. Lots on options and opinions already here on the site. 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) SeaDawg; good suggestion! Edited March 16, 2021 by Geronimo John TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 15, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Geronimo John said: SeaDawg🤪 you a bad boy today! ? Two of the ai gensets is not a bad or expensive deal. They come with the parallel cables, or at least, they used to. You only need one to charge the battery. Two to run the ac without soft start. Lifting each is within most people's capability. Big gensets are a tougher lift. I can lift the small ai she suggested, easily. I thought it was a useful suggestion. Maybe not. Btw, I'm an older woman, not a guy. So, I am probably a little more understanding of weights for smaller women to lift. I'd rather double up, on rare occasions when she needed ac,,than carry a big unit on the tongue . Just my thoughts. Sherry Edited March 16, 2021 by SeaDawg Typos 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Imelda said: So can anyone recommend a quiet, portable generator, not too heavy that can run the Oliver ac without adding a soft start. If the 2200 (1800 watt) generators won't start the AC, I'd strongly encourage you to consider having someone else install the EasyStart before buying a larger generator. They get pretty unwieldy after 1800 watts. The EasyStart is a very simple install for an RV shop and the part is way less than the cost of a larger generator. Edited March 16, 2021 by Jairon 3 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser 2021 Oliver Elite II, Hull #748 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, rideandfly said: Here's Micro Air's service/sales representative installing a 364 Easy Start during an Oliver Rally Does anyone know what ladder and ladder extension/pad that is? It looks perfectly formed for an Oliver. 1 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser 2021 Oliver Elite II, Hull #748 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 hours ago, SeaDawg said: ? Two of the ai gensets is not a bad or expensive deal. They come with the parallel cables, or at least, they used to. You only need one to charge the battery. Two to run the ac without soft start. Lifting each is within most people's capability. Big gensets are a tougher lift. I can lift the small ai she suggested, easily. I thought it was a useful suggestion. Maybe not. Btw, I'm an older woman, not a guy. So, I am probably a little more understanding of weights for smaller women to lift. I'd rather double up, on rare occasions when she needed ac,,than carry a big unit on the tongue . Just my thoughts. Sherry Sherry: OMG, I am falling out of my chair laughing at my silly mistake. My apologies I totally miss-read your suggestion. I thought you were spoofing Imelda and you were not. I know some computer artificial intelligence code writers (generators). One works at NSA. So when you suggested getting two ai generators, my mind thought you were saying Imelda should get two Artificial Intelligence code generators and connecting them up with parallel cables to provide the trailer power. It was so funny that I had to pull your chain. I have deleted my OOPs. Forgive me. 🙂 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Jairon said: Does anyone know what ladder and ladder extension/pad that is? It looks perfectly formed for an Oliver. Jairon: He is using a telescoping ladder with pool noodles attached to protect Ollie. Home Depot and Lowes sell several models. As decked out, I'm about 245 pounds so I really liked the stronger version. It is a TeleSteps Climbing Ladder, Type 1, Model 1600E, OSHA Compliant. When I get up on top of Ollie, I extend it out the full length and it gives me a high hand hold to then slide off the side to the roof. This model collapses down to about 3' and fits very nicely in the front side (Behind the hanging cloths) of the coat closet as you enter Ollie. I cover it in a blanket to protect the fiberglass. Telesteps Climbing Ladder _Type 1_ Model 1600E _OSHA Compliant.docx Edited March 16, 2021 by Geronimo John 1 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 16, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Geronimo John said: Sherry: OMG, I am falling out of my chair laughing at my silly mistake. My apologies I totally miss-read your suggestion. I thought you were spoofing Imelda and you were not. I know some computer artificial intelligence code writers (generators). One works at NSA. So when you suggested getting two ai generators, my mind thought you were saying Imelda should get two Artificial Intelligence code generators and connecting them up with parallel cables to provide the trailer power. It was so funny that I had to pull your chain. I have deleted my OOPs. Forgive me. 🙂 No worries. We all just try to do our best in real world advice. I know what I can lift and carry. I'm guessing imelda might be like me. 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Geronimo John said: He is using a telescoping ladder with pool noodles attached to protect Ollie. Thanks. The top looked odd to me, almost as if the blue section turned into a perfectly shaped Oliver pad. 3 minutes ago, Geronimo John said: TeleSteps Climbing Ladder I've been on the lookout for a ladder. I appreciate the info! 1 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser 2021 Oliver Elite II, Hull #748 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo John Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) Sherry: your suggestion of AI Generators , at $386 each (Amazon.Com) is far less expensive than the Honda 2200 ei. One could buy two, almost three, and it would still cost a lot less than the Honda 2200 does. The competition to the Honda's is heating up nicely. One down side is that the AI's weigh 50 pounds and the Honda is 40 pounds. On the plus side, the two AI's make 4,000 watts of power vsl 2200 for the single Honda.... Edited March 16, 2021 by Geronimo John 2 TV: 2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Tow, FX-4, Rear Locker OLLIE: 2018 OE2 Hull 342, Twin Bed. OLLIE DIY’s: Timken Bearings, BB LiFePO4's, Victron 712 Smart, 350 Amp Master Switch, Houghton 3400, Victron Orion DC - DC, 3000-Watt Renogy Inverter, P.D. 60-amp Converter, Frig Dual Exhaust Fans, Kitchen Drawer Straps. TV DIY’s: 2 5/16" Anderson System, Nitto recon’s, Firestone Rear Air Bags, Bilstein 5100’s, Mud Flaps & Weather Tech all, installed Ham Radio (WH6JPR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators SeaDawg Posted March 16, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2021 @Geronimo John those are all good, real world comparisons. Thanks. My first advice to Imelda was to get the soft start installed. You or I could do it. She doesn't feel comfortable with doing that. So, she should find the cost difference in having someone else do it. This forum sometimes tends to trend to those with a lot of skills. Not everyone has those skills. That shouldn't be a demeaning thing. Ever. Our forum should help those who want to know what "to ask for" in an estimate, if the owner doesn't have the skills. As a young kid, my dad taught me how to troubleshoot. Even if I couldn't fix it. At least I wasn't at the total blank end of the stick, when I needed help. I think you know what I mean. I know you have heart. If you , or many of us , were nearby , I know she'd have help. 1 1 2008 Ram 1500 4 × 4 2008 Oliver Elite, Hull #12 Florida and Western North Carolina, or wherever the truck goes.... 400 watts solar. DC compressor fridge. No inverter. 2 x 105 ah agm batteries . Life is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideandfly Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Jairon said: Does anyone know what ladder and ladder extension/pad that is? It looks perfectly formed for an Oliver. We use TeleSteps ladder, too: Edited March 16, 2021 by rideandfly 1 Bill & Debbie / 2015 LE2 #75 / 2024 F-150/5.0L / North Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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