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By Pony Express do you mean Amazon? Are you sure it is a Dometic brand part. I'm with you in wanting to hear the 'click' like the original part. If not Dometic brand, time for another Amazon return and get the part from eTrailer, Camping World or some legit RV store. https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Dometic/DOM93FR.html A lot of hose clamps these days have 7mm screw heads.

The Dometic "Flush Valve Kit" arrived by pony express (3 days) and I installed it late last night. It is the proper part for our model of toilet. However, during re-assembly when I inserted it into the back of the toilet, it did not “Click” as mentioned in the Video or Forum comments. I pressed it in the best I could, but no “CLICK”, removed it and re-inserted the old one and “Click”… re-inserted new one, no "CLICK". I did however add the “second screw as was suppled”, so now I have (2) screws holding the “Flush Valve” in place. And what is with the worm gear clamps (existing & supplied), the heads are not 1/4 or 5/16's, sheeez but I did snug them up tight. This morning I will look for any subtle differences between the old and new Flush Valve. And I still have a very slight drip coming out of the back of the toilet where the “Flush Valve” inserts… I believe I have a work-around, in that I found out where I will re-locate Willis’s water dish. Maggie was not impressed. B~Out

Larger fridge/freezer is nice. Dry bath is nicer with a sink you can actually get your face/head over (as @jd1923 mentioned as a shortcoming in the Oliver). Always tradeoffs of course. Some tradeoffs are apparent (particularly regarding storage) and some are not. And of course, a brand-new company carries some risks as well. Not enough here for me to really consider switching even if I was in the market.

I am 6'3 and quite comfortable in the bed but I sleep on my side. The toilet area for me, however, it a bit cramped for my knees. Perhaps an elongated bowl would be better than the smallish round bowl that comes with it. Other than that, my LE2 will likely be with me for many years to come.

I am kind of surprised the Tundra gave you some issues since they don't require a WDH for trailers below 5k. Obviously, your LE2 could exceed that with whatever you load into it and also what is in your truck. The reason Toyota states you can get away from it is due to their active stability system offering sway control. Were you overloaded or just wanted the diesel with exhaust brake? Nice truck, by the way. I would buy one but have an aversion to spending more the $50k for a truck.

I use the jack stands as well. For everything. They are a bit less stable at max extension, but the way you have them work great and, like you said, the safest way to lift these trailers outside of a professional shop.

Yes Craig, As usual, terrific writeup on something I just take for granted. I am going to have to go in here to have a look at the state of the terminal screws. "Safety FIRST- Make sure you're not connected to street power and that your Inverter is OFF. To be really safe you may want to shut off batteries as well." I just replaced Batteries, and was moving the wires coming from within, to the back of the compartment, so i could work at getting the jumpers off, and had quite a good ARC... I confirmed the Solar panels were functioning as designed. B~OUT

I took it to mean that you place the power button forward, not the release button. That’s why I posted this question, to get responses from owners whose Olivers had the MaxxAir MaxxFan Dome installed at the factory. Also, I don’t intend to pull the flange down much to form to the roof curvature. I intend to build the butyl tape up some under the front and rear of the flange where it stands proud of the surface. Bill

Yep, that's what I did, per the instructions. It makes sense the button is forward, so that it clasps the fan up front where it takes wind when towing. Once you get to installation, the curved shape of the Oliver hulls makes it difficult! All exhaust fans are designed to be flush on a flat roof and ceiling. Torque down the screws gently, little-by-little, taking your time so the plastic frame will curve. Too bad Oliver doesn't have a small flat area for this fan in the design of their hull molds.

Two things I don't want. The Oliver bathroom is the most comfortable bathroom we've had in an RV. One exception: I wish the sink/vanity top came out further so that I could actually get my face over the sink (on my mod list). Sitting on the can is truly roomy! Our first RV was a Fleetwood Discovery Class-A. I had to have my right leg out in the hallway to take care of business. OMG, on a WIDE 39-ft Class A! 🤣 Now that we're comfortable in a 7-ft wide trailer, without slides, I would never again want to tow an 8-ft box. That's what this new entry is, just an 8-ft BOX. Sorry, I've towed too many. They take wind and they're awkward in lane changes and on backroads. You feel every semi-truck passing and need towing mirrors on the TV. Bottom-line, one will not replace our Oliver! I tow the Oliver like I'm not towing! IMO, one thing OTT could-a/should-a done from the start was to make the hull only a few inches longer, to allow room for two 80x30" mattresses without the radiused rear corners! For me at 6'2" this would add significant comfort in a minor change. They guy that sold us our Oliver is 6'5" go figure!

Can't live without them along with the LevelMatePRO! I always smile and snicker when I see the 5th-wheel and camper guys with their manual jacks, large 1/2" impacts in hand. 🤣

Tom, you are absolutely correct! 😎 Changing a tire or working any suspension maintenance like in this maintenance thread, only "the belt" is needed, no suspenders necessary! 🤣 I would wager the floor jack I purchased used 40 years ago is much more capable than what most of you use at home (see pic below). When friends come into my garage, a first comment usually is, "Wow, where did you get that?!" It was already decades old at the time, nicely rebuilt at a hydraulic service shop in Chicago. It's an 8-ton floor jack with a 6 ft reach, a pump handle that comes up to your chest with a release lever at that height. It also has a kick pump that's so cool, it gets you started or by itself can lift a lighter car with ease. 10 auto restoration projects, 40 brake jobs and more! This beast has always been appreciated. But I'm still using the Oliver lift jacks alone for everything Oliver. Tom mentioned the one exception which is axle replacement. Our Oliver hull was lifted by the stabilizer jacks. I used the floor jack to lift the axles and you can see a bottle jack that I needed once to get a stubborn leaf aligned to the shackle opening. Tools are a man's best friend, when the right tool is chosen for the task at hand. I have this bottle jack and a single jack stand in the TV toolbox, along with enough tools to do most emergency repairs to the TV on the road. Haven't needed them thank goodness, working a lot of preventive maintenance when home and being lucky! Like my belts to keep my jeans in place, never wore suspenders!"

How does the factory orient the MaxxAir MaxxFan Dome in the bathroom? Installation instructions say orient the fan with the button towards the front of the coach but I’ve seen retrofit installations that orient it differently. Bill

The stabilizers are one of the best features of the Oliver in my opinion , they make tire changing and general maintenance so much easier and safer. I had a flat while traveling last fall and I got the tire changed very quickly and safely. The stabilizers were invaluable when doing the Alcan spring pack update. Combine the stabilizers with being connected to the tow vehicle and with a backup jack, "belt and suspenders" as @DanielBoondock says, and that makes for a very stable platform.

Overall I like the layout better than the Oliver. Wide body, bigger bathroom and fridge, bigger dinette but people say those booth style are still really just two person. On the surface I think it’s a better trailer. For me what it misses is its new and so doesn't have the decade+ tweaking of the Oliver. And it may well won’t get it, most OEMs stick with the known or churn out new models. Escape and Bigfoot do modify their designs but much less so than Oliver. The best engineering comes from continual tweaking and improvements, seen and unseen. I almost like the Oliver more for its bones than for the surface you see.

Or if cautious like me use both an external jack and the stabilizers, belt and suspenders

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Dam Site Lake COE near Eureka Springs Arkansas on Beaver Lake

I believe that this "OTT & Cooper Tire issue" likely originated from the problems surrounding tires that were shipped to Oliver that had "balancing beads" in them. These balancing beads caused problems with the tire valve due to not allowing the tire stem valves to operate properly. Some additional discussion of this and what Oliver did about it can be found HERE. Note that there were very few Ollies affected by this problem before it was caught. Also note that Oliver supplied new valve stems and a small cash payment to owners that were involved. I'm not aware that there ever was any other tire valve stem "issues" with and/or "recalls" in this regard. Bill

Actually, the angle to which I took the photo just makes it look level. Not much level ground up here, including our driveway! The wet-bolts were very difficult to line up when mounting the leaf springs due to the sloped driveway. There is NO WAY I would have used other jacks and jack stands (even if it was level ground). But with our driveway sloping down back to front and right to left, with wind always coming over our ridge, the built-in jack stands are the only safe way to lift the hull. Trust these jacks, rated to 3,000 LBS each, bolted to the frame (given OTT did not forget to finish the weld as was found in our hull). These jacks and their mounts can be inspected in the basement. The ONLY reason OTT does not advise using the built-in jacks is liability indemnification (since there is no science behind their change in procedure through the years). If the Oliver Owner get's in an accident using aftermarket equipment, OTT cannot be liable. Q: What's best for you? A: Using the built-in jacks. Q: What's best for OTT? A: When customers create product damage or bodily harm it's not created by their product, or anything they installed. Use a 3rd-party jack stand on the "Jack Point" and your hull comes crashing down to the ground, causing damage to the hull? OTT can claim no liability, but operator error. On older hulls the “jack points” as shown are the jacks! The hulls and jacks haven't changed, just the legal position has changed. From the 2016 manual below (two screen-prints). It's the proper way to change a tire, or lift the wheels for any maintenance task! 😎

I don't have time to chase it down today, but you might search for recalls on the OTT website -- I don't know if those stay in the feed on the Forum, but that particular recall might be under Oliver Technical Service Bulletins page?

On level concrete, I see. Thanks for the photos -- that makes an impression!

Try Tire Discounters. When I added TPMS sensors I supplied steel stems from Summit Racing and Tire Discounters installed them and rebalanced the tires at no charge. Guess where I'll buy my next tires?

Agreed, and sorry. I meant when changing from rubber to steel stems. When you are included in a safety recall, that's different. Find another shop at a decent price.

I would not "leave them alone"!! I just had two fail on a road trip a 1,000 miles from home and had to find a solution; a real hassle when traveling. Get rid of the Cooper known pending problem before you leave home. Signed road hassle experienced.