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I looked at the Suburban manual, it shows a wall switch with Fault/Reset light on the blue wire. That would cause voltage drop! Use the green/yellow wire for negative ground, and you should be good to go. Let us know if that’s what you have. Cheers, Geoff

Here is a link to the emergency valve stems. Bill

Understood good luck with JD. The HW switch I am referring to is the one remote switch that Oliver installs on the interior not the switch at the new WH. IOW's I'm still confused. Thanks for trying though. Thus far nothing is connected to the new WH other than the propane. I am trying to figure out which wires to connect to the new WH. Many thanks.

Rim design really has the stems on the edge, sticking out. Got to be careful with the steel ones too!

That is different. I'm on jury duty lunch break, this will be quick. The WH switch I assume is a remote switch. It likely is a specialty switch with some resistors or such causing a voltage drop, some LEDs will do that. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with that suburban unit. You will probably need to replace the switch for the new WH. Check the old switch for internal resistance with an ohm meter. Good luck and let us know what you find

I probably did not explain my situation thoroughly @Snackchaser. The old Suburban is completely out of the Oliver, AC wires are taped off and disconnected. When measuring the remaining 12 volt wires they have not been connected to anything yet. If measuring with the HW switch off, crickets, I get nothing other than small microvolts. The switch has to be turned on to obtain anything close to 12 volts +. So if I connect the red + wire and the blue - wire to the new Fogatti it will only receive 12.2 volts of input. That amount of DC current is not enough to effectively run the Suburban furnace based upon past experiences and it might have a negative impact on the new WH with only 12.2 volts. Or am I missing something? Thanks

You are measuring volts with WH switch on, which means your measuring the voltage drop of the internal WH electronics. Disconnect the red, and volts should be 13.7. The yellow/green wire is a non-current carrying ground due to the AC aspect of the WH, so it does not see the electronics voltage drop. All seems normal. Cheers, Geoff

So I am finishing up the install of a new water heater, tankless version to replace the old Suburban. Retrofitting into the Oliver is NOT an easy task but more on that later. So on the old Suburban there are 3 12 volt DC wires connected to the 12 volt terminals, red for +, blue for -, and yellow/green for ground. However when I measure the voltage across the wires with HW switch turn on, the red to blue measures only 12.2 volts but when I measure the red to green/yellow @ ground I received the full SOC of my Epoch batter which is 13. 7 ± volts. The new Fogatti tankless only uses two DC wires, red and black, and no AC connection at all. I am inclined to think in my case to use the red and green/yellow wire for the full DC voltage available to me. Can anyone explain why the red to blue wires only return a reduced voltage of 12.2 volts DC? My gut instinct is the wiring was done incorrectly at the factory build swapping the negative terminal for the ground but this is just a stab in the dark not being totally versed in DC electronics. Thanks and appreciate any insight on this.

New steel stems. Installed on all tires. $6.00/tire installed. The journey continues on...

If you have a tire pressure monitor added to the stems excessive flexing caused by the weight of the sensors will fatigue the rubber portion. Plus today’s rubber products sometimes seem to weather rot more quickly. I was lucky in that I never had a stem failure in the seven years before I replaced my tires and changed the stems to nickel plated brass stems. In any event, it would be a good idea to carry emergency replacement stems. I carry these that can be replaced from the outside. Even the metal ones can be hit by a rock or other road trash and be broken. Thankfully I’ve never needed to use them!

He did, on the Facebook Oliver group: John Koss says: ”#18 here, have been doing as much hiking here as possible. I live nearby so lots of running back and forth to graduation and grandkids soccer games. I do come occasionally for birding week. I find the bird enthusiasts more interesting to watch than the birds!” I was there for the big week back in the late ‘80s before it got to be such a huge production. I’m not sure I’d want to be anywhere near there the next two weeks!! 😵‍💫 Not quite as productive, but less known Old Woman Creek is only about 20 miles from me, vs 80 for Crane Creek.

Prior owner had installed steel valve stems on the Oliver, always been good. When I upgraded the truck with 3rd Gen Dodge wheels, I mounted with steel stems. Neither stem should fail, unless there is something about the wheel design, how the machined opening for the stem could be an issue cutting into the rubber. Question is, was the stem physically damaged or replaced because for leaking.

Hopefully they will respond to your post. I've been to the "Biggest Week in American Birding" only once, and I will never forget it! https://www.biggestweekinamericanbirding.com/

That is my initial question, as well -- but materials science is rapidly changing. As an example, "Organic solar cells are made from very thin layers of carbon-based (organic) materials, usually only about 100 nanometres thick. Originally designed as an inexpensive alternative to silicon-based solar panels, they are flexible, lightweight, and more sustainable than other options. Unlike the OPV film-based version, organic photovoltaic textiles can be stitched onto fabric, giving them greater application potential, such as the tensile fabric architecture of canopies and sails." -- https://perfectsenseenergy.com/solar-fabric/

Oh boy. Same year (2022 Oliver LE2) and same tire for me, and I just experienced a tire stem failure a week ago. Didn't think to ask to see the stem after the repair, to ascertain the type of failure. Also I didn't know there would be options on the type of stem to replace it with, but now I feel my other tires might be suspect. Right now, my spare (previously un-used) is still on my Oliver -- not sure if that is a good or bad thing. I will be watching your thread here for other info.

Do you have TPMS sensors mounted on your rubber stems? When I got the TST TPMS I also had my rubber stems replaced with metal stems. That was about 100K miles ago and no problems. I think replacing your rubber stems is the way to go. Mike

On the road for a couple months and I have had two tire stem failures within a two week period. The rubber stem on both failed with similar 1/8" to 1/4" horizontal failures. Replacing with steel stems during repairs. Cooper Discoverer HT3 tires on 2022 Oliver II at 50 psi. Causes? *Bad luck, *Tire brand, *Tire age, *PSI, *Tire Pressure Minder, *Rubber stems, *Mountain curve roads, *Driving speed, *Life... Thoughts and wisdom?

I believe a few different Oliver owners have made their way to Newfoundland but I'm not sure they took the same route. If you use the google search engine (rather than the search function here on the forum) and you search "oliver travel trailer newfoundland" or similar terms, you will likely come up with some links. (I'm not sure why it works better). Here are a couple of links, including owners who have been to Newfoundland. Also, have you looked at their official road conditions map and reports? https://www.quebec511.info/en/Carte/Default.aspx

I see you can get the solar awning with the Platinum Pro package, too. It looks pretty cool, but I have to wonder if it will fail eventually from being repeatedly rolled/unrolled.

Here: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/2027-models/?fbclid=IwY2xjawRkMxZleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFnREJZaWpseU95eWEwQVRDc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHpiS_FvI90EHyUf_oG5VFKxqgnIa_STJ6hiTz4DY8TNE7tkM-hNQsVfylRG-_aem_VUEMOA8YabCnRqd1Yg72hg

We are at Maumee Bay State Park on Ohio’s north shore. #18 has been here a few days, but the times we’ve come by, no one was home. I think this is the oldest Oliver we’ve seen in person. Mid May on the south shore of Lake Erie is the largest gathering of birding enthusiasts in North America, attracting people from all over the world. I don’t know if that’s why #18 is here, but might be the reason. Sorry we missed you.

Just saw this- that is great! Glad to have played some part of your Oliver story. I was out this past weekend and was reminded how much I love this little camper. I’m coming up on my 3 year anniversary next month. Something about hopping in there just feels so much like home.

Some things I was able to pull from a blurry pic of the brochure- Alcan springs are standard, the 48v battery is 100ah, and it seems only the AC is 48v with everything else being 12v. One really interesting option is a 960 watt solar awning. Would love to have that!

I mean make it a little longer. The glass body is what, only 18’ on a 24’ 6” body? I don’t understand the exceptionally long tongue except stability, but then why not move the wheels back a bit instead? I don’t know the details but would love to, but just another 6” or foot of interior length would go a long way. Weights a consideration but going to 8k isn’t that bad I think Anyhow the only history I know is they hired some guys from a nearby house boat catamaran company initially. That’s where they probably got the marine hidden gasket idea, and the fitting out with electrical and such. I wonder how the chassis was designed?