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That's exactly what I was thinking, but I can never know everything. Thanks for the confirmation.

We opened a FB account years ago because our kids were on it. They do very little on FB these days and we rarely open it. We never posted pics or personal information. I have a niece that has put her entire life on FB, not good. Mike

If her gray tank is full then water draining from the kitchen sink could cause backed up water to flow back into the bathroom and out of the shower drain. I don’t know of any connection between the gray tank and the fresh water system. Gray tank inputs are from the kitchen and the bathroom, one each. No fresh water inputs. Mike

At least my first suggestion to her was that her tanks were full. But she was sure they were not. LOL

Has anyone had their shower backup with water after running water in the kitchen sink? The grey tank is empty, for sure. I am being told they have dumped their tanks. Any way a leak from the water system could fill up the grey tank? Shower gate valve is open I am told. Seems like a clog somewhere. Asking for a friend. UPDATE: I just received word from her that her indicator for the grey tank is NOW showing 100%. But question still stands, just in case. Is there any way a grey tank could fill up with a friend water tank/line leak? I cannot think of a way, there should be no fresh connections to grey, right? She travels with no water in fresh tank as well.

It appears we see eye-to-eye on several things! I never created a FB account and once FB became another Fake News outlet, Chris deleted all her content and pics, closed her account. Sorry Oliver Owners on FB, but this is the real OTT Forum! 🤣 We also recently agreed on the need, or lack thereof, for an articulating hitch. And I think the tow vehicles for hulls #113 and #1394 are the only two that carry an extra 35-gal FWT and we both never leave home without two full FWTs! 😎 Chris and I were born and raised in Chicagoland, so "Escape to Wisconsin" was something we did often, all the way up to 1999 when we left the city. Out first trip together was to visit Lake Oshkosh in '92! I say this because we're not likely to tow our Oliver back to your neck of the woods. But when it's time for you to get out of winter weather and travel SW, we would love to meet you! 😂 Best wishes, JD

"Me do me" means no Facebook whatsoever - problem solved. I just don't see eye-to-eye with Mr. Zuckerberg's vision. There are other ways to communicate with your friends. Thanks for the heads up and continuing to help me affirm my decision.

What I just posted in John's Facebook group for Oliver Owners. This does not require a lot of discussion. WARNING: Fake Facebook groups cropping up everywhere! Folks, we have a growing disturbing problem with Facebook (FB) groups, especially, because you are reading this, in regards to owning an Oliver. You may have noticed at least one or two new Oliver-related FB groups crop up lately. From the very first picture posted, from the Oliver group that has the word "Community" in it, there are suspicious postings & members. Now the more legit people who join these fake groups will make the group look more and more legit itself. Our information is being collected, I promise you. I'm not usually an overly suspicious person, but as an active Information Technology (IT) guy who also supports cyber security, I'm seeing more obvious signs of trouble. Even a dumb monkey like me can start to see the issues. Now, I just left that "Oliver Community" group just last night after I had seen enough AI generated material and started to smell bad actors. You can ask any AI out there this question and read for yourself why and how and why this is happening. Just ask it something like this: Are there fake facebook groups being created to collect information on us? I usually have not cared about what is collected on me, as big American businesses are notorious about collecting info. These fake groups are not maintained by American businesses, I promise you that. I have no stake, nor real loyalty, to this group we are in right now. I am not an admin, and frankly, I was once kicked out of the group for a misunderstanding on my part. I was later asked to rejoin due to my loyalty to the OTT owners in general. That's it. I'm sure this will be received like politics. We will be split down the middle 50/50 or at least split 33/33/33. Just be VERY safe out there in this mucky world of social media we have created. This group is managed by real good people. We may not always understand why they do what they do, but that is because you are not trying to keep bad actors out of a private group. It's a fulltime job these days. Some forums of the world have to block entire countries due to the issues developing now. Be safe and "you do you", but you've been warned.

Last year my original box shorted-out due to loose connection screws. The loose connections caused melted wire coating, melted part of the housing and could have started a fire. The new box has much better connections. Based on my experience, the price of the new box is cheap insurance. The issue with screws loosening is well documented within this forum. At minimum, you should check screw tightens regularly. best of luck

"The Mayor of Prescott" 😊

Here's another picture of Granite Mountain Wilderness Area from Thumb Butte Road, where Adam camped last week. You can hike for years just around town and never do all the trails. Also, 100s of OHV and bike trails. Local hiking and nature orgs created a 54 mile trail that circles Prescott! 😎 https://www.yavapai-trails.org/prescott-circle-trail/

Thanks Mike! Yavapai Campground at the Granite Mountain Wilderness Area is a nice spot to visit Prescott. No hairy roads like driving up Thumb Butte Rd last week. It's paved all the way in. There are 21 FS campsites, and only $9/night with the old-fart pass! Sorry @John Dorrer, I'm being the Prescott "Resident Chamber of Commerce" person again! 🤣 Though where is everybody else? There should be a Where's Ollie post, or two, every day of the year! We're in site 16, which is one of two FF sites. It was easy for us to grab this spot, since the park reopened on April 1 and we got there at 9AM (just 20 min from home). Nice to camp for the week and only use a 1/4 tank of diesel with these prices today! Second pic is a view of Granite Mountain from the entry road. Adam and I hiked to the top 10 years ago and I hope to do it one more time before it get's too late for me! 😂

I just picked up another new PD5110010Q to keep on-hand in parts list. I know I’ll come across another old style soon enough. It’s a quick change-out.

Our original PD ATS went out last year, a burnt wire or two. I decided to bypass the ATS. One cable now goes from the side 30A receptacle to the PI EMS and then to our Victron MP2 inverter and finally to the 120VAC breaker panel. We never use the 30A inlet up front, since we never use a generator. So no need for an ATS! We’ve had 3 RVs and the PD 5100 had failed in all three. If you must have an ATS, it’s time to upgrade to a better product!

Hello to the Oliver being towed by a black GMC that was behind us on I-81 South in northern Tennessee today! Beautiful travel day.

My original was subbed out by PD as a warranty claim. Now the second one has the issue with the Neutral leads both in the box and from the street side. I'll be buying a new version of this box PD5110010Q.

Exactly, me too and same down here!

Yep, this is exactly why I have learned to do all maintenance myself on our Oliver. Local shops around here charge $300 per hour too and have months wait to time get in. Not an option.

The idea was great, but the implementation by the suits of Howenwald leaves a lot to be desired. I had work done at the Salem, Oregon "Oliver Dealer." they eventually did a good job, but I did have to do TWO round trips between Salem and Whidbey Island, Washington to get it done right. They stood behind their work, and all ended well (But TWO trips through Seattle traffic!) Turns out that NO ONE from their service department had been to Howenwald for training, nor had anyone from Howenwald been to Salem. Qualified for Oliver service? I think not.

Here is a photo of the axle tag from one of the axles installed on our trailer last summer by the Alcan folks. Our trailer is hull number 208; 2017 vintage.

In addition to your awing decision. We would strongly recommend NOT TO INSTALL THE RAIN GUTTER ADHESIVE STRIP under the awing. We found its primary function is to capture debris that makes a big mess on your roof. We removed our gutters several years ago and let the water drain down the side of the trailer with no issues. If you wish, you can install gutters over the windows. We live in a rainy climate on the pacific coast and are much happier without any gutters. Without gutters, you will find it much easier to keep your trailer clean. And congratulation on your purchase. We hope you enjoy your Oliver as much as we have.

Not all Oliver TTs use the same axle. Our older hull was fitted with a 50" bracket length and most others have 50.5" (note the 50.00 marking on my labels). Since the axles on our Oliver were unique, Alcan took a picture of my original axle label for the custom order, copied all the specs except went from D35 to D52 for 5200 LB axles. They only make Nev-R Adjust and Nev-R Lube axles now, so the rest is the same. So, the part numbers for our hull will NOT be what you need. Likely if a Forum member that upgraded recently with 50.50" axles posted a picture of their label, it would be what you need. But to be certain, take a picture of your axle label and then call Dexter Customer Service. They are not bad to talk to and they will give you a proper part number for your D52 upgraded axles. I'd want to be certain spending $2K plus shipping! HF stands for Hub Face, the measurement between hub faces. SC or Spring Center is the distance between leaf spring centers. These numbers must remain the same for the new D52 axles. Our before & after axle labels to follow:

Just to emphasize another point, your receiver hitch may not be rated to carry the tongue weight without a WDH. I don’t know about 2016 Dodge RAM 1500, but in the case of newer Ford F150’s, the max tongue weight without a WHD is 500#, which is lower than your Oliver’s tongue weight if you’ve got it loaded properly. Sure, it works fine, but if you are ever in a crash, you may be exposed to liability regardless of who’s at fault. See snip from Ford Towing Guide that Galway Girl attached.

I believe you are correct Chris, and in my situation with an F250 it tows very well without an Andersen hitch. One point I’d like to make on the term “Sway Controller”. I understand you are referring to a simple mechanical friction system such as the Andersen hitch system. You are probably aware, modern trucks are fitted with electronic Trailer Sway Control systems. Just distinguishing between types so there is no confusion. See Ford video with details. https://youtu.be/6MRZ50cOVaw?si=RXUWESNdq99zIM2q

Agreed I also like Mortons videos too. Smart guy for sure. The idea of a truck camper has never had any appeal to me however. Its my understanding they have now transitioned to an towable RV.