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Steve, Tali and the dogs: Reacher and Rocky plus our beloved Storm, Maggie and Lucy (all waiting at the Rainbow Bridge)

2008 Legacy Elite I - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #026 | 2014 Legacy Elite II - Outlaw Oliver, Hull #050 | 2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD SRW Diesel 4x4 

 

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Wow! 😳.   They said they weren’t overloaded because they have a RAM 3500 one-ton truck but that Eagle 1165 truck camper spec sheet lists a dry weight of 4,917 pounds!!!   Add a full fresh tank (66 gallons!) and camping gear, food, etc and the total load would get close to 6,000 lbs.  

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2019 Oliver Legacy Elite II - Hull #461

Tow Vehicle: 2019 Ford F-250 SuperCab 4x4, 6.2L Flex-Fuel engine  

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3 minutes ago, Frank C said:

Wow! 😳.   They said they weren’t overloaded with a RAM 3500 one-ton truck but that Eagle 1165 truck camper spec sheet lists a dry weight of 4,917 pounds!!!

The 2020 Ram 3500 lists a payload capacity of up to 7680 lbs., depending on configuration.  It would be interesting to know what the GVWR sticker on that truck says...

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2022 Elite II

Tow Vehicle:  2019 Tundra Double Cab 4x4, 5.7L with tow package

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11 minutes ago, Rivernerd said:

The 2020 Ram 3500 lists a payload capacity of up to 7680 lbs., depending on configuration.  It would be interesting to know what the GVWR sticker on that truck says...

Yeah, the max spec for a gas RAM seems like it should be enough.  The diesel loses quite a bit of max payload but should still be sufficient.  Can’t tell from the photo if that’s a diesel RAM or not.   Like you said, it would be interesting to see the specific ratings for their truck.   It’s a fairly new truck (2020) so you would assume it’s not a frame corrosion issue.   But wow that is still a really heavy camper!  That’s like parking an Elite II in the pickup bed! 

 

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2019 Oliver Legacy Elite II - Hull #461

Tow Vehicle: 2019 Ford F-250 SuperCab 4x4, 6.2L Flex-Fuel engine  

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Isn't the load rating for within the confines of the truck... and not the cantilevering amount that hangs over the end of it?

Charlie

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2 hours ago, CnC said:

Isn't the load rating for within the confines of the truck... and not the cantilevering amount that hangs over the end of it?

Charlie

Beyond all the other weight ratings, truck mfgs specify a maximum Cargo Weight Rating for the bed area and a Center of Gravity range for load placement. When both are observed, overhang is accounted for. What they don't specified is a maximum trailer tongue load hanging off an unknown length hitch extension. Suspect neither RAM nor Ford would warranty either of these two failures.

Always load your beer and ammo as far forward of the rear axle as possible.

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I'm thinking:

  • Long lever arm from rear of back axle
  • Heavy front loaded trailer
  • Overhanging camper
  • Extended several feet the trailer receiver hitch for trailer
  • Add in possible frame damage due to installer of camper or maybe salt corrosion
  • Maybe high speed
  • Especially Yukon Territories corduroy roads

Combine several elements of the above and .....what goes up, can slam back down real hard.

GJ

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Tug:  2019 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat, 3.5L EcoBoost, Max Trailer Tow, FX-4, 4X4, Rear Locker

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2 hours ago, Geronimo John said:

Add in possible frame damage due to installer of camper or maybe salt corrosion

For the original photo posted by @ScubaRx I've seen some speculation that improper welding of the front tie-down points may have weakened the frame.

Stephanie and Dudley from CT.  2022 LE2, Hull #1150: Eggcelsior.

Tow vehicle: 2016 GMC Sierra 6.0 gas dually 4x4.

Our Oliver journey: Steph and Dud B's RV Screed

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