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No room in the tow vehicle? Piano in case, the stand, your chair, cables, etc… In our Oliver, I would not change the dinette except for the firm taller cushions we had upholstered. We enjoy meals together there, including lunches on travel days. I never got into extending the table or counter extensions, needing all the aisle so that two bodies and the dog can pass comfortably. Just enough living space.

I didn’t have to make any adjustments. Ball height was/is the same.

From what I've been reading about 48V systems they are most effective delivering power to high amperage devices like the A/C, fridge, and induction cooktops. With the heat pump, compressor fridge, and an induction cooktop, would there be any need for propane at all in this new trailer? They do make 48v water heaters with 1000-2000W heating elements. Low amperage devices like lights, USB, etc. are often on 12v circuits powered by a DC to DC voltage converter in a 48v system, so there's no real gain there. (It is possible to get things like 48v lights, but they are more expensive.) I wonder what the boondocking sustainability difference would be between our LE2, which has the 640Ah 12v lithium system, 30# propane tanks, and LP fueled furnace, fridge, water heater and stove vs. this new 48v model set up as all-electric? As it is, we've never gotten below 50% SOC while camping in good sun and our propane lasts for weeks. Fresh water and holding tanks would still be limiting factors with this new trailer. I suppose if you had the composting toilet and were camped in a sunny place that allowed emptying gray water on the ground you could stay virtually as long as your fresh water supply allowed, but that's kind of an edge case for a lot of us. On balance, I see the main advantage of the 48v system over our 12v/propane system being increased A/C run time.

Looking at their new Instagram posts, it certainly looks like they're marketing it as an off road trailer. "Most trailers stop where the road does. Not this one- Built for the Road That Ends."

Running gear looks the same , just a wheel & tire change and some black accents. At least they are trying something different. If they changed up the suspension for better off road that would make a difference.

Sure they could - BUT - then you would not have a closet (or, at least a smaller closet).🛁

Love the new windows and hope they're available as upgrades some time in the future, though I'm not a real fan of the blackout treatment. Very interested in learning more about the electrical system, battery capacity as well as what looks to be a beefed up suspension.

Actually these blocks are perfect, not sure about brackets but the first problem is keeping the sitting room. It’s too tight as is, either I tuck the piano away on edge between use (a bother) or extend the seat a bit. Here’s an idea (notice the aisle Hue lights) This is the twin bed extension, I could see if Oliver will sell me a pair and adapt them to likewise extend the dinette seats into the aisle. That would be perfect, except that the bulkhead seat can’t extend as that interferes with the bathroom door. WIP …

From what I can see, it's a dolled up LE2 hull aiming to attract the overlander crowd. The 48V electrical system is interesting but would make finding accessories, etc. more difficult and more expensive. Will there be a DC to DC converter and 12V circuits for things like lights, USB ports, and 12V outlets?

Actually the owners didn’t sell it for me, Escape and Bigfoot owners are equally passionate. In the end what did it was a tallying of positives and negatives. For me, I figured that whatever undiscovered problems the Oliver will have will be less than the known negatives of the others. I was worried about the bed length in particular. Fortunately nothing came to pass, and I found more positives IRL. Having said that, couldn’t they have made the bathroom just a little bit bigger? 🙂 Anyhow OT the greasing went just fine with a right angle fitting (not right angle zircs). Question: a couple of the outrigger ones - the ones on spring ends, would not take grease at all. Clogged? I’m going to try again after I move it, figuring that the position it’s in is preventing ingress

Question from the peanut gallery did anyone see the need to adjust your tow vehicle ball height higher after adding the Alcan springs and new shocks ? did the upgrade change your ball hitch weight ? lighter ? just trying to anticipate

Looks cool is it the original hull ? Or a new hull ?

Same. Circuit breaker issue. Since I was still under warranty we had it traced and repaired at a service center under guidance from Oliver. This doesn't seem to be an uncommon problem for Oliver's of a certain age. @Traveling Angels is your trailer from about 2022 or 2023?

JD: Battery health with a 2023 should not be an issue. But you are correct in mentioning it as a possibility. Hopefully some how he didn't get Battleborns slipped in...... Traveling Angels: If the above testing does not lead to a conclusion, then JD's hint that the batteries themselves could be an issue. If you have more than one, then they would need to be individually charged to SOC 100% and load tested. What are the brand of your Litho's? GJ

I note that some of the newer trailers have a 300 amp DC breaker. Fortunately ours is a 300 amp fuse. Good suggestion to upgrade the breaker. GJ

nice!

THOSE are the windows we've been waiting for.

We’re just an hour and half from Austin, had I known I would have made plans to see it. Grandkids today and a busy Sunday tomorrow…..

Those tires have quite an aggressive tread, they look like something you’d find on an overland rock crawler! I like them.

Everybody note... The new Oliver ApeX-23 is designed and advertised to be an off-GRID trailer NOT an off-ROAD trailer.

It is.

Here you go…..touch pic and scroll left.🤔 https://www.instagram.com/p/DX1y0pnkuH2/?igsh=MXRicTlrancwZXloOA==

If anyone can get to the show and Austin please post pictures and details.

Find the right size/depth brackets for your piano case which will take a bit of searching. Use 3M VHB 4950 tape ONLY to mount to the fiberglass. 😎