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We are at Maumee Bay State Park on Ohio’s north shore. #18 has been here a few days, but the times we’ve come by, no one was home. I think this is the oldest Oliver we’ve seen in person. Mid May on the south shore of Lake Erie is the largest gathering of birding enthusiasts in North America, attracting people from all over the world. I don’t know if that’s why #18 is here, but might be the reason. Sorry we missed you.

Just saw this- that is great! Glad to have played some part of your Oliver story. I was out this past weekend and was reminded how much I love this little camper. I’m coming up on my 3 year anniversary next month. Something about hopping in there just feels so much like home.

Some things I was able to pull from a blurry pic of the brochure- Alcan springs are standard, the 48v battery is 100ah, and it seems only the AC is 48v with everything else being 12v. One really interesting option is a 960 watt solar awning. Would love to have that!

I mean make it a little longer. The glass body is what, only 18’ on a 24’ 6” body? I don’t understand the exceptionally long tongue except stability, but then why not move the wheels back a bit instead? I don’t know the details but would love to, but just another 6” or foot of interior length would go a long way. Weights a consideration but going to 8k isn’t that bad I think Anyhow the only history I know is they hired some guys from a nearby house boat catamaran company initially. That’s where they probably got the marine hidden gasket idea, and the fitting out with electrical and such. I wonder how the chassis was designed?

We have contemplated this trip from Wisconsin. I too would be interested in what you discover.

Bryan, we’ve never done any trips to/in Canada but will be interested in what you do on this trip! Mike

Yes Chris, that was my issue, running thru the axle tubes, the insulation appeared to be melted to the point of having the bare wire exposed (see previous pics) so when they then started shorting out, they gave the Ram the error code. It started on the way back from AK, in Whitehorse, and after listening to a dealership TT service tech say 99% of your issue would be in the 7-pin... i replaced my 7-pin. I was extremely frustrated when that did not resolve the issue, because i completely sacrificed a perfectly good moisture sealed OTT 7-pin connector. Later in Whitehorse i found a small independent RV repair shop/person who brought out an example of what i would eventually find was my issue. which was abraded insulation and bare wires enough so that bouncing around inside the axle tube, it would create an intermittent short. My other issue (see previous Pics) the wire used appeared to be 'Brown lamp cord", not anything with substantial insulation around it, like fabric wrap then all that covered in rubber sheath. Oh Well... I have been told that most trailer manufactures run the wires thru the axle tubes when available, whether true or not IDK. I have no problem running mine on the outside at the 9-oclock rear position on the axle. i do not know if he is still in business up in Whitehorse, but i will give him a SHOUTOUT... the business was called "Fireweed" it was an RV repair place. He was a one-person shop with about a 4–5-week backlog, even for something as simple as my issue. enuf, B~Out

I agree! For example, as we continued our trip after installation, I needed to make a slight level adjustment at a campsite, so lifted one side of the trailer using the onboard rear jack. With just very little lift the tires were off the ground. The shackle bolts were so tight that the whole suspension was extremely stiff. I may be wrong and the expert may disagree but I think the shackle bolts should just be snugged up to prevent excessive play. The nylock nuts will prevent any loosening of the shackle bolts. The U bolts, however should be torqued to specifications. You may have to replace the shackle side plates if the bolts are a sloppy fit. You definitely don’t want the bolts to rotate on their own. Anyway, just my opinion.

We will be heading up to Saskatchewan, then east to the TQH & TLH then St. Barbie ferry over to Newfoundland. Has anyone done the TQH & TLH recently with their Oliver??? Except for a reminisce of a two-wheel motorbike trip, I was not able to find any information on the route experiences of other, with "the search function"...

I did not actually measure. Height change may be up, <1” or negligible. Tongue weight should not change since distances, the 3-point geometry of the trailer has not changed. Porpoising will be minimized, so that weight up and down on the hitch will be more even.

The soundtrack suggests trouble ahead, and the footage does seem to suggest off-road more than off-grid. That said -- my Ollie hasn't disappointed me at all, and I've had next-to-no troubles * in terms of being able to spend weeks at a time off-grid. Of course that requires preparation and contingency plans. Having walked through creeks and stepped into holes several feet deep, I don't think I would want to ford a creek with my Oliver, unless it was an improved surface with known qualities. Still, there are lots of folks who have a bigger yearning for adventure. I think this will appeal to those who want to go whole-hog off grid and off road. Can this model go longer than my LE2's 3-4 weeks off grid? * The one exception to my 'no troubles' was a few years ago when I had a propane leak that a local North Dakota TT repair facility failed to correctly identify and fix; in that case, I was left without propane powered refrigerator, hot water, or heater for several months, out west on the road into October.

No room in the tow vehicle? Piano in case, the stand, your chair, cables, etc… In our Oliver, I would not change the dinette except for the firm taller cushions we had upholstered. We enjoy meals together there, including lunches on travel days. I never got into extending the table or counter extensions, needing all the aisle so that two bodies and the dog can pass comfortably. Just enough living space.

I didn’t have to make any adjustments. Ball height was/is the same.

From what I've been reading about 48V systems they are most effective delivering power to high amperage devices like the A/C, fridge, and induction cooktops. With the heat pump, compressor fridge, and an induction cooktop, would there be any need for propane at all in this new trailer? They do make 48v water heaters with 1000-2000W heating elements. Low amperage devices like lights, USB, etc. are often on 12v circuits powered by a DC to DC voltage converter in a 48v system, so there's no real gain there. (It is possible to get things like 48v lights, but they are more expensive.) I wonder what the boondocking sustainability difference would be between our LE2, which has the 640Ah 12v lithium system, 30# propane tanks, and LP fueled furnace, fridge, water heater and stove vs. this new 48v model set up as all-electric? As it is, we've never gotten below 50% SOC while camping in good sun and our propane lasts for weeks. Fresh water and holding tanks would still be limiting factors with this new trailer. I suppose if you had the composting toilet and were camped in a sunny place that allowed emptying gray water on the ground you could stay virtually as long as your fresh water supply allowed, but that's kind of an edge case for a lot of us. On balance, I see the main advantage of the 48v system over our 12v/propane system being increased A/C run time.

Looking at their new Instagram posts, it certainly looks like they're marketing it as an off road trailer. "Most trailers stop where the road does. Not this one- Built for the Road That Ends."

Running gear looks the same , just a wheel & tire change and some black accents. At least they are trying something different. If they changed up the suspension for better off road that would make a difference.

Sure they could - BUT - then you would not have a closet (or, at least a smaller closet).🛁

Love the new windows and hope they're available as upgrades some time in the future, though I'm not a real fan of the blackout treatment. Very interested in learning more about the electrical system, battery capacity as well as what looks to be a beefed up suspension.

Actually these blocks are perfect, not sure about brackets but the first problem is keeping the sitting room. It’s too tight as is, either I tuck the piano away on edge between use (a bother) or extend the seat a bit. Here’s an idea (notice the aisle Hue lights) This is the twin bed extension, I could see if Oliver will sell me a pair and adapt them to likewise extend the dinette seats into the aisle. That would be perfect, except that the bulkhead seat can’t extend as that interferes with the bathroom door. WIP …

From what I can see, it's a dolled up LE2 hull aiming to attract the overlander crowd. The 48V electrical system is interesting but would make finding accessories, etc. more difficult and more expensive. Will there be a DC to DC converter and 12V circuits for things like lights, USB ports, and 12V outlets?

Actually the owners didn’t sell it for me, Escape and Bigfoot owners are equally passionate. In the end what did it was a tallying of positives and negatives. For me, I figured that whatever undiscovered problems the Oliver will have will be less than the known negatives of the others. I was worried about the bed length in particular. Fortunately nothing came to pass, and I found more positives IRL. Having said that, couldn’t they have made the bathroom just a little bit bigger? 🙂 Anyhow OT the greasing went just fine with a right angle fitting (not right angle zircs). Question: a couple of the outrigger ones - the ones on spring ends, would not take grease at all. Clogged? I’m going to try again after I move it, figuring that the position it’s in is preventing ingress

Question from the peanut gallery did anyone see the need to adjust your tow vehicle ball height higher after adding the Alcan springs and new shocks ? did the upgrade change your ball hitch weight ? lighter ? just trying to anticipate

Looks cool is it the original hull ? Or a new hull ?

Same. Circuit breaker issue. Since I was still under warranty we had it traced and repaired at a service center under guidance from Oliver. This doesn't seem to be an uncommon problem for Oliver's of a certain age. @Traveling Angels is your trailer from about 2022 or 2023?