New axles may not fit all older sub-frames

[mossemi]

On 7/16/2024 at 9:06 PM, rideandfly said:

If the axle label is missing, Dexter engraves the axle serial number on each axle. I gave Dexter the serial number off of one of Ollie's axles a few years ago and Dexter emailed this axle spec sheet back to me. With this information a Dexter dealer should be able to supply an axle built to original specifications.

It took awhile, but I finally found pictures of my axle label and although I had several pictures I wondered why they all had the same serial number.  I went under the Ollie and found that I only had 1 label and it was on the rear axle.  I then found the engraved SN for the front axle and it was the same as the rear, which I thought was weird.  So I emailed that information to Dexter asking for an as built sheet and if tandem axles should have the same SN.  Dexter sent back a single build sheet and never addressed my question about the same SN on both axles.

So the question that I now have is if anyone else has the same SN's on both axles and if that is Dexter's standard practice?

The attachment is for 2017 LE2 #193 which has the original suspension equipment

Mossey

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[rideandfly]

Mossey,

I only looked at one axle and assumed 🫤 they had two different SN's, never thought two axles would have same serial number. 😐 Will check my axle SN's during the first part of August, making one more modification to the F-150 before towing Ollie during the first part of August.

Updated:

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2014 LE2 #50 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts)

2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #193 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity & Alcan springs

2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity & Alcan springs upgrade

2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

Please me know if information needs to be added/changed for a hull # and can also add additional campers including LE1's.

Edited July 27, 2024 by rideandfly

[Wayfinder]

My axle labels are nearly destroyed by road & weather.  I'll see what numbers I can see engraved somewhere.  

 

[mossemi]

4 hours ago, Wayfinder said:

My axle labels are nearly destroyed by road & weather.  I'll see what numbers I can see engraved somewhere.  

 

I found the SN engraved on the rear side of the axle near the center.  Take a damp rag and a flashlight with you and wipe the axle down, it should be visible.  Mine was close to where the label used to be.

Mossey

[ScubaRx]

On 7/27/2024 at 8:48 AM, rideandfly said:

Mossey,

I only looked at one axle and assumed 🫤 they had two different SN's, never thought two axles would have same serial number. 😐 Will check my axle SN's during the first part of August, making one more modification to the F-150 before towing Ollie during the first part of August.

Updated:

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2014 LE2 #50 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts)

2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #193 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity & Alcan springs

2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity & Alcan springs upgrade

2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

Please me know if information needs to be added/changed for a hull # and can also add additional campers including LE1's.

2014 LE2 #50 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades

This is my trailer but I went out and measured the spring centers as 50.0"

[rideandfly]

10 hours ago, ScubaRx said:

2014 LE2 #50 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades

This is my trailer but I went out and measured the spring centers as 50.0"

Updated:

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2014 LE2 #50 SC 50" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts)

2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #193 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity & Alcan springs

2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity & Alcan springs upgrade

2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

Please me know if information needs to be added/changed for a hull # and can also add additional campers including LE1's.

[Wayfinder]

@jd1923 has shown me the trees beyond the forest.  I was not "getting it".  Now I think I do.  So maybe OTT can special order the size of axles for my trailer and install them getting all the upgrades I want at once.  Hmmm.

I will get my serial numbers off my axles soonest.

[rideandfly]

8 minutes ago, Wayfinder said:

@jd1923 has shown me the trees beyond the forest.  I was not "getting it".  Now I think I do.  So maybe OTT can special order the size of axles for my trailer and install them getting all the upgrades I want at once.  Hmmm.

I will get my serial numbers off my axles soonest.

That would be very convenient if Oliver will order your axles!

Please post your axle build sheet when you get it! I can update the list, if needed.

[jamesgang]

On 7/29/2024 at 8:53 AM, rideandfly said:

Updated:

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2014 LE2 #50 SC 50" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts)

2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #193 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity & Alcan springs

2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity & Alcan springs upgrade

2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

Please me know if information needs to be added/changed for a hull # and can also add additional campers including LE1's.

looks like mid 2016 LE2 was a changeover time for the hanger width - mine was born in July 2016 and is 50.5" - so you need to measure to make sure

oliver was able to upgrade my LE2 hull #157 to all new running gear (D52s etc)

side note - my original truma was also compliant with the recall / had all the tabs bent over!

 

Edited February 12 by jamesgang

[rideandfly]

Jamesgang, Thanks!

Updated:

2010 LE2 #45 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

2014 LE2 #50 SC 50" D52 Original axle capacity & Alcan spring & Disc Brake upgrades

2015 LE2 #75 SC 50” D52 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #110 SC 50” D35 Original axle capacity (Gathered from Wayfinder's posts)

2016 LE2 #113 SC 50 “ D35 Original axle capacity

2016 LE2 #159 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity 

2017 LE2 #193 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #208 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2017 LE2 #226 SC 50.5” D52 Upgraded axle capacity & Alcan springs

2020 LE2 #579 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity

2021 LE2 #898 SC 50.5" D35 Original axle capacity & Alcan springs upgrade

2023 LE2 #1386 SC 50.5" D52 Original axle capacity

Please me know if information needs to be added/changed for a hull # and can also add additional campers including LE1's.

Edited February 12 by rideandfly

[Geronimo John]

Anybody know the actual differences between the D35 and D52 axles?

GJ

[rideandfly]

John,

Here's how I understand it:

D52 is 5200 pound axle and D35 is 3500 pound axle. The D52 has larger brakes and larger spindle that requires larger bearings and probably other different parts.

Believe when an axle label says "D52 capacity: 3500 pounds"  meaning the axle assembly came with a 5200 pound axle with 3500 pound springs, 4 leaf, the assembly is rated at 3500 pounds.

Our LE2 came with axle labels "D52 capacity: 5200 pounds" meaning the axle assembly came with a 5200 pound axle with 5200 pound, possibly higher rated capacity springs, 5 leaf, the assembly is rated at 5200 pounds.

Believe Mountainman198 posted about this in another thread, too.

Edited February 12 by rideandfly

[Geronimo John]

Would love to have been one of the luck owners to benefit from the 3500 pound axle shortage and got the super duty 5200 pounders.  I believe I remember that they can be upgraded to disk brakes which is an option that OTT really should consider for new trailers.  

Thanks for the low down Bill!

GJ

Edited February 12 by Geronimo John

[Geronimo John]

On 7/30/2024 at 9:46 AM, Wayfinder said:

@jd1923 has shown me the trees beyond the forest.  I was not "getting it".  Now I think I do.  So maybe OTT can special order the size of axles for my trailer and install them getting all the upgrades I want at once.  Hmmm.

I wish I needed new axles.  So I could dream about getting 5200 axles with disk brakes and springs of my choice (written so as not to kick the sleeping Spring Bear topic).  Bullet Proof!   But then I would need to ask Crazy Horse to rob a bank to pay for it..........   

GJ

[rideandfly]

Yep, they ran out of 3500 pounds axles when building our LE2 is my understanding, so they installed 5200 pound axle assemblies with 5 leaf springs.

Steve installed disc brakes on his LE2 5200lb axles and Pete installed disc brakes on his LE1.

The larger drum brakes on the D52 5200 pound axles are very effective and durable. When I need to rebuild the axle assemblies, disc brakes would be nice.

Edited February 12 by rideandfly

[MAX Burner]

On 2/12/2025 at 12:02 PM, Geronimo John said:

I believe I remember that they can be upgraded to disk brakes which is an option that OTT really should consider for new trailers.  

100% concur, @Geronimo John, John!  

We've got the disk brake upgrade on our radar and will likely drop the hammer on them when our current 12" drums need replacement...FYI