BorninPalatka Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 After only a few months the latch broke on the battery tray. I would think replacing the latch with the same one would result in a reoccurrence? Has anyone else experienced this problem ? 2 Lou Anne & Bobby
Townesw Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 I have not had that problem. I would like to see a clear picture of that failure. When I push my battery tray in I pull the latch up rather than push it in hard and let the latch snap up and then down. When my battery tray is all the way in and latched there is about 1/8 inch slop in the fit. I stick a folded up piece of cardboard (until I find something more expensive) in there to prevent any movement when on the road. That much weight moving back and forth is bound to damage something. 1 Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
Townesw Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 After looking at that photo of the failure and looking at my latch plunger I believe that it is made out of “pot metal”. And instead of having 0.25 in^2 of cross sectional area to shear there is only about 0.125 in^2 of cross sectional area to shear. I will be looking for a latch made of steel to replace mine. 1 Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
Townesw Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 Well, the plunger on mine attracts a magnet so it must not be pot metal. The break in your plunger looks like it is a cast material. Will that broken off piece stick to a magnet? 1 Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
BorninPalatka Posted May 26, 2018 Author Posted May 26, 2018 The movement of the battery tray during driving broke the bottom ‘stopper section ‘ of the vertical latch. I will tell Jason. Lou Anne & Bobby
Townesw Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 BorninPalatka, Will that broken off piece stick to a magnet? If it doesn’t stick to a magnet it is probably pot metal. My plunger attracts a magnet. I am attempting to determine if they made a change to the latch. Thanks. Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
STEVEnBETTY Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 I haven't had any issues with the battery tray, but just as a safety backup plan I installed a simple stop for the tray. On each side of the slide rails, just beyond where they stop, when the tray is full pushed in and the latch is engaged, I drilled two 3/8 in holes and inserted 2x 3/8x1 in bolts. 1 STEVEnBETTY
KountryKamper Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 I would be curious if a magnet would stick to BorninPalatka's too. It looks like it is a different metal then ours. What did Jason have to say? 1 Tom & Cheryl LE II #305 2018 GMC 2500HD SLT Duramax
Moderators topgun2 Posted May 29, 2018 Moderators Posted May 29, 2018 Steve - Got a picture of that mod? Bill 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC
STEVEnBETTY Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 Materials required for modification: two 3/8x 3/4 in bolts, flat washers, nylock nuts. 3 STEVEnBETTY
BorninPalatka Posted May 29, 2018 Author Posted May 29, 2018 Jason is sending a replacement latch which we will have to install. We like the idea of drilling holes in the side of the tray & using removable bolts to secure the battery tray. Lou Anne & Bobby
John E Davies Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 Thanks very much for bringing this issue to light.... I just secured my tray, but I only added a single 1/4 inch stainless bolt. I really don’t think you need to have two. I positioned the hole so the head and two stacked lock washers were hard up against the slide with it latched fully closed ... it is going nowhere until I let it. John Davies Spokane WA SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT.
Moderators topgun2 Posted May 31, 2018 Moderators Posted May 31, 2018 Steve & John - While I like the simple idea of a using a bolt to prevent this tray from sliding, it does have its (potential) drawbacks. For those of us that still have the regular lead acid batteries it would be simpler to have an easily removable piece of hardware as opposed to the bolt. Obviously the problem is finding that piece of hardware given the relatively limited space available for it and not wanting any more movement in either the hardware or the tray than necessary. Once I get Twist back out of storage prior to this summer's Western fishing trip, I'll try a couple of things that might work in that space (wing nut, bolt drilled for a small hitch pin/clip, etc.). If not, there is always the bolt thing that you guys have used - thanks! Bill 1 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC
Moderators topgun2 Posted May 31, 2018 Moderators Posted May 31, 2018 Mark - Vice-grips are always "sexy" - at least for you guys from Montana! Bill 2023 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing, Max Payload, 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist" Near Asheville, NC
BackofBeyond Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 And a good tool storage idea - double duty! Cindy, Russell and "Harley dog" . Home is our little farm near Winchester TN 2018 Oliver Legacy Elite II - 2018 GMC 2500 Duramax "Die young - As late as possible"
Townesw Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 MontanaOliver, Does that broken latch look like steel? Or a cast material? Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
Townesw Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Thanks Mark for your response. It looks like a casting to me. No machine marks and rounded edges. Granular structure at the break. Certainly not a machined steel bolt which would be stronger. Thanks again. Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
Nick Posted June 2, 2018 Posted June 2, 2018 Yes I had the same issue. Latch broke in exactly the same place. Perhaps the weight of the battery tray is too much for the latch. I have requested a replacement latch. I share your concern that it too may break.
Townesw Posted June 2, 2018 Posted June 2, 2018 Before I put the same latch back on I think I would order one of these and see if it would work. https://www.mcmaster.com/#2206a25/=1d0bia0 Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
Townesw Posted June 2, 2018 Posted June 2, 2018 Mark, so the plunger would go into a hole in the side plate where the other folks are adding the bolts? Bill and Martha 2018 LEII Hull 313 Original owners 3/14/2018 2019 Chevrolet 2500HD Duramax
Maverick Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Last year when I had to replace the complete battery rack due to rail failures on both sides; I installed an aluminum 90 degree angle bracket mounted with 1/4 inch SS machine screw. Without removing this device the rack can not be moved out; but it only takes a few minutes to remove for battery maintenance. [attachment file=Battery Rack - security mod 1.jpg] 1 Horace & Dianne Chesapeake, Virginia 2016 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 4x4 Limited 2015 Oliver Legacy Elite II - Hull # 93
Raspy Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 I wrote about this problems last year and "fixed" mine before it broke. The batteries are so heavy that any play will lead to something breaking while driving. Whatever method you use, you must get the play down to zero so that the tray cannot hammer the latch by sliding back and forth while driving. If the latch doesn't break it will likely tear out the mounting screws instead. I simply dropped in a wooden 1X2 stick, across the front of the tray, between the frame and the sliding part on mine and it has been fine. I think Oliver has since upgraded the frame mounting bolts too. This is an area that needs some attention during routine maintenance to make sure it is secure. Those batteries could escape right out through the exterior door causing severe damage. John "I only exaggerate enough to compensate for being taken with a grain of salt." LE2 #92 (sold), Black Series HQ19
bwright Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 I too have just placed a 1x3 piece of wood across the front of the slide out tray. It has worked great to keep the tray at zero sliding movement.
Spike Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 Thanks to all for this heads-up. it would be simpler to have an easily removable piece of hardware as opposed to the bolt. I'm thinking of ordering this and then drilling the hole: https://www.amazon.com/CURT-21504-Hitch-Pin-Clip/dp/B00H56NAPY/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1528582773&sr=8-16&keywords=hitch+pin+with+clip See any reason not to got with this? Onward through the Fog! EarthPicks of Cochise County
John E Davies Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 That is over half an inch diameter, way too large and heavy, you may be over estimating the hardware required. Why not just use one or two small (1/4 inch) clevis pins? Or if you want fancy and stainless, .... https://www.amazon.com/VTurboWay-Release-diameter-Stainless-Hardware/dp/B07CWC6V73/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1528587602&sr=8-7&keywords=Clevis+pin+with+clip+1%2F4+inch John Davies Spokane WA 1 SOLD 07/23 "Mouse": 2017 Legacy Elite II Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 32” LT tires, airbags, Safari snorkel, Maggiolina Grand Tour 360 Carbon RTT.
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